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That might work if you want to passively wait for the enemy to come to you, but if you want to be aggressive you will find that even 2 or 3 BG's of LF can delay you to hell and back without the Cv.Moro wrote:I would try to drop all Cv to max-out armoured infantry...
I would tend to take the LF fiream as protected, so that they cheaply have the ability to threaten much enemy LF with a charge. They'd be in 4s to 'fit' into smaller places and try to extend around/behind enemy BGs to restrict evades/break-offs.babyshark wrote:Even without the cav one can buy a bunch of LF protected firearm for skirmishing duties. I have the notion in my head that these will be very useful BGs. They can be bought in 4s for bulk (probably take them as unprotected in that instance) or 6s for driving off enemy LF.
Marc
Charging enemy LF is a very risky strategy. As the handgunners are in 4s, you would need to charge with 2 BGs, so would lose 4 attrition points if it all goes horribly wrong - as well it might.fgilson wrote:I would tend to take the LF fiream as protected, so that they cheaply have the ability to threaten much enemy LF with a charge. They'd be in 4s to 'fit' into smaller places and try to extend around/behind enemy BGs to restrict evades/break-offs.
rbodleyscott wrote:Charging enemy LF is a very risky strategy. As the handgunners are in 4s, you would need to charge with 2 BGs, so would lose 4 attrition points if it all goes horribly wrong - as well it might.fgilson wrote:I would tend to take the LF fiream as protected, so that they cheaply have the ability to threaten much enemy LF with a charge. They'd be in 4s to 'fit' into smaller places and try to extend around/behind enemy BGs to restrict evades/break-offs.
What do you do if your LF gets charged by my LF plus one of my more meatier units? I'm sure you evade. My LF are trying to charge from 1MU, giving them the best chance to catch you. If they do, your light spear is useless, and I certainly want to be Protected for the Melee phase.david53 wrote:rbodleyscott wrote:Charging enemy LF is a very risky strategy. As the handgunners are in 4s, you would need to charge with 2 BGs, so would lose 4 attrition points if it all goes horribly wrong - as well it might.fgilson wrote:I would tend to take the LF fiream as protected, so that they cheaply have the ability to threaten much enemy LF with a charge. They'd be in 4s to 'fit' into smaller places and try to extend around/behind enemy BGs to restrict evades/break-offs.
TBH if only someone would charge my 8 base BG of Jav/Light spear with a 4 base BG Firearms even if you were Protected I would stand and love it.
Given that they were a third of the army (264 pts) just how much of a liability were they? Wouldn't pike and/or offensive spear MF be more useful?hammy wrote:I ran a City League army at the York round of the Northern league today and it did OK (well joint first which is OK in my book).
My list (900 points):
4 TC
1 BG 8 average drilled armoured defensive spear
3 BG 8 average undrilled armoured defensive spear
Defensive spear were not as much of a liability as I thought they might be. Where the army I feel let me down was the 4 base BGs of average cavalry and to be honest the superior medium foot were not as effective as they could have been in either game. I will certainly consider defensive spear again, especially armoured undrilled ones.
