List sent to me in PM

[rbodleyscott]

Hello:

I send a list that I made for DBR years ago for the Low Countries Spanish and as I like a lot the period. As I haven't the beta list I can't say if is there any mistake. Hope that it is a help. The book that is used mostly is Sintesis Histórica de la Caballeria Española de J. de Sotto Montes. Am trying to read a book of Clonard but it is quite difficult to find and I know that It could be find in the libraries of the Spanish Army.
The best books about the Tercios are Los Tercios of Rene Quatrefages (can be found in french) and another published by the Spanish Army (Los tercios, la infanteria en el Siglo de Oro), about the cavalry it is quite poor and the best book that I have found its the written by Sotto (it is also published by the Spanish Army)

The notes of the list are in spanish and english
If you send me the beta list of the spanish a could give you notes.

hope it is a help

Albert X. Galeote

P.D. the spanish sword and buckler men are called "Rodeleros"

Low Countries Spanish 1559 AD - 1659 AD

Cold. Ag 4. WW, Rv, H(S), H(G), Wd, D, Rd, BUA
Warm: Ag 4. WW, Rv H(S), H(G), Wd, O, V, RGo, Rd, BUA

C-in-C - Ln (S) @ 35 AP
Sub-general - Ln (S) @ 35 AP
Hombres de Armas 1 - Ln (S) @ 15 AP 1
1 - 2
0 - 1 per 6 Ln(F)

Caballos ligeros - Ln (F) @ 11 AP
Escopeteros 2 - LH (I) @ 8 AP
Tercio foot: 1/2 pikemen - Pk (O) @ 4 AP
1/2 arquebusiers - Sh (I) @ 4 AP
Skirmishing musketeers 3 - Sk (S) @ 4 AP
Heavy or field guns - Art (S) @ 25 AP or (O) @ 20 AP
Pontooners - Pont (O) @ 3 AP 4 - 12
1 per 3 Ln

14 - 64
0 - 1 per Sh
0 - 2
0 - 2


Only from 1560 AD:
Herreruelos or Pistoletes 4 - Pi (O) @ 5 AP
0 - 6


Only after 1567:
Upgrade Spanish or Swiss arquebusiers to musketeers - Sh (O) @ 6 AP
0 - 1/2


Only after 1568 AD to 1589 AD:
German reiters - Pi (I) @ 8AP

0 - 6


Only from 1579 AD:
Convert Escopeteros to Arcabuceros 5 - Pi (O) 10 AP

Only to 1588 AD:
Carracks - Shp (S) @ 6 AP (Pk, Sh, Art)
Galleasses - Gall (S) @ 5 AP (Sh)
Invasion barges - (O) @ 2 AP (Any)

All


0 - 4
0 -1
0 - 8


Only 1589 AD to 1592 AD:
French Catholic gendarmes - Ln (O) @ 12 AP
French Catholic archers and chevaux léger - Pi (O) @ 10 AP
French Catholic foot: 1/3 pikeman - Pk (I) @ 3 AP
2/3 arquebusiers - Sh (I) @ 4 AP
Papal Swiss pikemen - Pk(S) 5 AP
Papal Swiss arquebusiers - Sh (I) @ 4 AP or Sk (O) @ 3 AP

2 - 4
4 - 6

0 - 6
0 - 4
1 per 4 Pk (S)


Only 1593 AD to 1600 AD:
Downgrade subgenerales to ally-generales
Only after 1618 AD excluding Spain:
Croats 6 - LH (S) 6 AP

1 - 2


0 - 2


Only after 1630:
Convert Hombres de armas to Caballos Corazas 7 - Pi (S) @ 32 AP if general, 12 AP if not
Convert Caballos ligeros to Caballos Corazas 7 - Pi (S) @ 12 AP
Replace tercio pikemen with arquebusiers or musketeers - Sh (I) @ 4 AP or (O) @ 6 AP


All
2 per 1 Ln (F)

0 - 1/2


Only after 1635 at Spain and Milanesado:
Dragoons 8 - Dr (I) @ 6 AP
Only after 1644:
Convert Arcabuceros to Carabinas or Carabineros 9 - Pi (I) @ 10AP


0 - 6


All




He añadido la opción templada por si deseas representar las revueltas portuguesas o catalanas (1640 a 1659) I have added the warm option if you want to represent the portuguese or catalonian revolts (1640 to 1659).
1 - Ha sido cambiado el nombre, gens d´armes (de la palabra francesa de gendarmerie) por Hombres de Armas (no era normalmente utilizado: Gente de Armas) y han sido suprimidos los herguletiers por el momento ya que no son conocidos en España, que tipo de caballeria son (la palabra no es española y si son mercenarios) 1 - It is changed the name, gens d´armes (from the french word of gendarmerie) for Hombres de Armas (it´s not used normally Gente de armas). and it has be suprimed the herguletiers for the moment to be not known at Spain what kind of cavalry are (the word it is not spanish and if they are mercenaries, )
2 - Los Escopeteros es caballeria con armas de fuego. 2 - Escopeteros is cavalry with firearms.
3 - En contra a la lista original, han sido incluidos los Sh (O) a la proporción, para tener más Sk. Esto es debido a que en Nordlingen es que el Cardenal-Infante ordenó colocar una pantalla de hostigadores al ejército Español-Imperialista. 3 - Against the original list, it has been also include the Sh (O) to the proportion to have more Sk. This is because is that at Nordlingen is that Cardenal-Infante ordered to screen the Spanish-Imperialist Army with skimishers.
4 - Herreruelos o Pistoletes: clase de caballeria ligera que sustituyo a los Stradiots por la Ordenanza militar de 1560. Fueron armados con Pistoletes (un tipo de pistolas más grandes) y una espada, sus armas defensivas consistian en: corselete, grebas y un tipo de casco llamado chapelete. Y su función era de estar en la vanguardia, teniendo su principal cometido como servicio de exploración y seguridad, y contactar con la avanzadilla enemiga. Con esta función, ellos utilizaron rapidas maniobras y movimientos, la acción (llamado rociada) de descargar sus armas de fuego, y utilizando la espada ellos cargaban al enemigo desordenado. Ellos combatían en orden muy abierto y disperso. El nombre de Herreruelos no proviene de sus protecciones, sino de su capa corta que ellos portaban y tenía el mismo nombre. 4 - Herreruelos or Pistoletes: type of light horse which sustitute the Stradiots by the military ordenance of 1560. They where armed with a Pistoletes (it is a longer tupe of pistol) and a sword, their defensive arms were corselet, greaves and a type of helm called chapelete. And its funtion were of being at the vanguard, having the most commit as service of exploration and security, and contact with the forward enemies. With this funtion, they used quick maneavers and movement, the action (called rociada - sprayed) of discharging their firearms, and using the sword they charge the disordered enemy. They fighted at very opened order and dispersed. The name of herreruelo doesn´t come from its protections. it comes from from its short cloak which they wore and had the same name
5 - Por la reforma militar de 1579, fueron cambiados las armas de fuego de los Escopeteros por el arcabuz y renombrados como arcabuceros montados. 5 - By the military reform of 1579, were changed the firearms of the Escopeteros to the arquebus and renamed as arcabuceros montados (mounted arquebusiers).
6 - La existencia de los Croatas entre las tropas españolas tiene la evidencia en las batallas de Honnecourt, Rocroi, etc... Se dice que había sobre los 400. 6 - The existence of the Croats between the Spanish troops have the evidence at the battles of Honnecourt, Rocroi, etc... It says that there were 400.
7 - No he podido determinar (por el momento, probablemente por la Ordenanza de 1632) la aparición de los Caballos Corazas. Comenzó progresivamente sustituyendo a las Lanzas porque el uso de la lanza era menos efectivo, pero no desapareció y probablemente fueron utilizados en conjunto con los Caballos Corazas (como parece que indica un tratado de 1642 de Basta, sobre la utilización conjunta de las dos caballerias) . Incluso hay un periodo en que los Caballos Corazas utilizaron ginetas, 7 - I have couldn´t determinated (for the moment, probably by the ordenance of 1632) the appearence of the Caballos Corazas. It starts progresively sustituting the Lanzas because the use of the lance were less effective, but it didn´t dissapeared.and probably it was been used with the Caballos Corazas. Also there was a period that the Caballos Corazas used ginetas (light lances).


8 - Se dice que existieron antes de 1635, pero todas las evidencias indican que fueron creados por orden del Rey a D. Pedro de Santa Cecilia en Inspruck en 1635. Se abrieron 800 puestos para cubrirse. Se ha localizado solo en España ya que no entraron en Flandes hasta 1673!!! (es probable que entraran antes). 8 - It says that they existed and were used before 1635, but the true evidence is that they where created by order of the king at 1635 by D. Pedro de Santa Cecilia in Inspruck . It started to open 800 for its ranks. It has been determinated only to Spain because they were not known in Low Countries before 1673!!! (probably there were before).
9 - Los Arcabuceros cambiaron sus armas por las carabinas (pasaron a ser llamados Carabinas o Carabineros), menos armadura y su táctica por el caracoleo. Los arcabuces pasaron a los Dragones. 9 - The Arcabuceros changed their firearms, to the carabin (and renamed as Carabinas or Carabineros), less armour, and the tactic for caracoling.. The arquebus passed to the Dragoons