Skirmishers and Interception Charges

shawn_ledford · Post by **shawn_ledford** » Fri Jan 22, 2010 9:34 pm

I am sorry if this has already been answered in this forum, but I could not find a search function and there are over 70 pages of posts

A question on LF intercepts:

On pg 60, Attempts to Charge or Receive Charge with Skirmishers, 1st bullet - LF cannot charge or intercept non-skirmishers in open terrain
on pg 62, Interception Charges, 5th bullet - SKirmishers cannot intercept non-skirmishers

If I read the rule on pg 60, I see it as my LF can do interception charges against BG's in non-open terrain. I read the rule on pg 62 and I see that I can never intercept with skirmishers. Is this a contradiction? Have I missed an FAQ? Or am I missing some subtle distinction?

Shawn

batesmotel · Post by **batesmotel** » Fri Jan 22, 2010 10:34 pm

LF may only charge non-skirmishers if the non-skirmishers are not in good terrain. Sirmishers (LF & LH) may not intercept non-skirmishers. this is my understanding of the rules.

Chris

deadtorius · Post by **deadtorius** » Sat Jan 23, 2010 3:18 am

I agree, if the target is not lights the lights can not intercept.

And yes if a target is not lights and is not in open terrain the lights can charge it.
Did that with a unit of light javs against an elephant once, and they actually won as they got a + and the elephants get nothing versus lights. Never been able to do anything of the sort ever again...

shawn_ledford · Post by **shawn_ledford** » Sat Jan 23, 2010 4:57 am

I certainly can see where you derive that interpretation - but how do you reconcile the two sections? Are you saying that the bullet on pg 60 is in error and should not include the wording on intercepts? Has this been officially addressed?

expendablecinc · Post by **expendablecinc** » Sat Jan 23, 2010 7:01 am

shawn_ledford wrote:I certainly can see where you derive that interpretation - but how do you reconcile the two sections? Are you saying that the bullet on pg 60 is in error and should not include the wording on intercepts? Has this been officially addressed?

The bullet points dont say what you can do they both say what you cant do.

LF cant charge or intercept nonskirmishers in open
Skirmishers cant intercept non skirmishers at all

Both statements are correct
There is some overlap in the scope of both statements but they can both be true. Just because a rules says a BG cannot do something doenst mean they can do it in all other circumstances (eg when they are fragmented).

shawn_ledford · Post by **shawn_ledford** » Mon Jan 25, 2010 2:35 pm

If that is the case, then why on pg 60, bullet 2, does it specifically say about LH that they can never intercept non-skirmishers - why not use the same language for LF if they can never intercept?

petedalby · Post by **petedalby** » Mon Jan 25, 2010 6:05 pm

Try not to get hung up on the wording.

The advice you've received is spot on.

philqw78 · Post by **philqw78** » Tue Jan 26, 2010 6:57 am

shawn_ledford wrote:If that is the case, then why on pg 60, bullet 2, does it specifically say about LH that they can never intercept non-skirmishers - why not use the same language for LF if they can never intercept?

Because LH can charge battle troops in the open after passing a CMT, or in a flank or rear whenever they want. LF and LH are very different.

deadtorius · Post by **deadtorius** » Wed Jan 27, 2010 12:44 am

Not to mention LF can intercept other LF, probably not going to happen very often if ever but it just might.
Don't put too much pressure on your LF to become heroes they are there to be annoying to the enemy not bravely try to stop something big and nasty from charging.