Atlanta US Team Tournament - Runners and Riders

dave_r · Post by **dave_r** » Sun Jan 10, 2010 7:40 pm

Runners and Riders per period as follows:

Infernal Umpire
Team New England       Matt Iverson        Catalan
Beltway Bandits        Ethan Zorick        Catalan
SMAC                   Gino Agnelly        Later Ottoman Turkish
Birmingham Bunnies     Christopher Anders  Mamluk Egyptian
Cult of Personality    Scott Jeske         Catalan
Team of Payne          Chris Johnstone     Later Hungarian
Death Panel            Kevin Donovan       Middle Hungarian
Baton Rouge            David Couvillon     Later Serbian
NATO                   Mick Mills          Later Hungarian
Von Ryan's Express     John Beacham        Later Polish

Leg Irons And Trumpets
Team New England       Peter Celella       Dominate Roman
Beltway Bandits        Marc Crotteau       Palmyran
SMAC                   Ricky Jones         Sassanid Persian
Birmingham Bunnies     Jeff Dewitt         Palmyran
Cult of Personality    Dick Hurchanik      Italian Ostrogothic
Team of Payne          Steve Payne         Early Pictish
Death Panel            Michael Monahan     Italian Ostrogothic
Baton Rouge            Lance White         Dominate Roman
NATO                   Mark Faircloth      Dominate Roman
Von Ryan's Express     Walt Burgoyne       Kushan or Indo Skythian

Oafs of Frailty
Team New England       Paul Georgian	    Early Hungarian
Beltway Bandits        Bill McCampbell     Early Hungarian
SMAC                   Rich Olier          Later Sicilian
Birmingham Bunnies     Joey Miller         Early Teutonics
Cult of Personality    Mike Hart           Later Sicilian
Team of Payne          John Martin         Early Hungarian
Death Panel            Chuck Hines         Early Anglo Irish
Baton Rouge            Simone Fraternelli  Komnenan Byzantine
NATO                   Clay Knuckles       Mongol Invasion
Von Ryan's Express     Shawn Ledford       Early Anglo Irish

Softer Than Beagles
Team New England       Bob Rioux           Neo-Assyrian
Beltway Bandits        Dan Hazelwood       Neo-Assyrian
SMAC                   Thomas Demers       Later Mycenaean
Birmingham Bunnies     Lee Cleveland       Later Mycenaean
Cult of Personality    Silvio Marra        Later Mycenaean
Team of Payne          Hilton McManus      Neo-Assyrian
Death Panel            Peter Contos        Later Mycenaean
Baton Rouge            William Sierichs    Kimmerians
NATO                   Mark Moore          Later Mycaenean
Von Ryan's Express     Ryan Payne          New Kingdom Egyptian

Based on my viewing of the lists - I would put the seedings as follows:

1. NATO
2. Beltway Bandits
3. Von Ryan's Express
4. Death Panel
5. Birmingham Bunnies
6. SMAC
7. Team New England
8. Baton Rouge
9. Cult of Personality
10. Team of Payne

petedalby · Post by **petedalby** » Mon Jan 11, 2010 11:28 am

Go Cult of Personality!

Prove Dave wrong!

grahambriggs · Post by **grahambriggs** » Mon Jan 11, 2010 12:27 pm

petedalby wrote:Go Cult of Personality!

Prove Dave wrong!

Personality. Jeske.

I don't get it.

G

madcam2us · Post by **madcam2us** » Mon Jan 11, 2010 1:47 pm

Methinks both Dave and Graham are a tad jealous.

Dave due to our superior looks...

Graham due to our superior abilities with cubic devices...

Madcam

babyshark · Post by **babyshark** » Mon Jan 11, 2010 2:41 pm

grahambriggs wrote:
petedalby wrote:Go Cult of Personality!

Prove Dave wrong!
Personality. Jeske.

I don't get it.

G

You misunderstand: Hart has the personality, Jeske is the cult part.

Marc

dave_r · Post by **dave_r** » Mon Jan 11, 2010 6:17 pm

You misunderstand: Hart has the personality, Jeske is the cult part.

Are you sure you spelt cult right there?

madcam2us · Post by **madcam2us** » Mon Jan 11, 2010 6:42 pm

"l" is pretty close to "n" on the keyboard...

either way, its obvious you've been effected by global warming.

Apparently you've been taking to burning plastics for heat and the fumes have effected your brain.

9th!?!?!?!?

Really?

Madcam

dave_r · Post by **dave_r** » Tue Jan 12, 2010 10:45 am

I think the Sicilian will really struggle. That is largely what dragged you down.

Of course, Mike, may play better with a poor army than with somebody worse with a better army.

I did stress these were based on army lists NOT players.

madcam2us · Post by **madcam2us** » Tue Jan 12, 2010 1:12 pm

Yea, we debated this and truth be told we were not sure if he'd be playing in this period or I with E. Granadine...

Glad to see no one is playing what would have been my army (till now) but his configuration is a bit suspect, IMO.

But, we did playtest his list extensively against likely armies, i.e. Anglo-Irish, other Sicilians, E. Granadine, E. Russian, Komenan and he did well enough.

We'll have to see how he does with it.... IMO, he's the tiger in his period so that's a bonus. Let's just hope he is not a paper tiger!

Madcam.

mhohio · Post by **mhohio** » Tue Jan 12, 2010 3:44 pm

Dave it took me a long time to develop this "poor" list not only to teach Madcam, but also to get under his skin each time I beat him...

dave_r · Post by **dave_r** » Tue Jan 12, 2010 4:10 pm

Right. So this is a list that was solely designed to beat Jeske! I understand now why it is a bit dodgy

hazelbark · Post by **hazelbark** » Tue Jan 12, 2010 8:12 pm

dave_r wrote:Right. So this is a list that was solely designed to beat Jeske! I understand now why it is a bit dodgy

Absolutely. Its not even designed to be played with the rules called Field of Glory, but rather with the Ohio fantasy amendments.

dave_r · Post by **dave_r** » Wed Jan 13, 2010 4:34 pm

Now updated with full R&R's.

hazelbark · Post by **hazelbark** » Wed Jan 13, 2010 8:40 pm

dave_r wrote:Now updated with full R&R's.

Is there a list difference between mycenean and later mycenean?

I thought the lists were early and late.

dave_r · Post by **dave_r** » Wed Jan 13, 2010 9:03 pm

?

What Mycenaean are you talking about?

hazelbark · Post by **hazelbark** » Thu Jan 14, 2010 4:57 pm

dave_r wrote:?

What Mycenaean are you talking about?

The one you edited and made clear. Thank you again.

timmy1 · Post by **timmy1** » Thu Jan 14, 2010 7:15 pm

I am glad to see that FoG has solved one of the percieved problems with DBM 3.n (too few varieties of armies are seen at competitions...)

'
Neo-Assyrian
Neo-Assyrian
Later Mycenaean
Later Mycenaean
Later Mycenaean
Neo-Assyrian
Later Mycenaean
Kimmerians
Later Mycaenean
'

babyshark · Post by **babyshark** » Thu Jan 14, 2010 8:53 pm

To be fair to FoG, this tournament is a series of one-book events. Still, this set of R&Rs shows little imagination.

Marc

timmy1 · Post by **timmy1** » Thu Jan 14, 2010 8:57 pm

Marc

Makes sense. However, when I read that it was a two list tourney, I did not realise that meant that within each book players were only allowed to choose from two nominated lists... :)

A gross exaggeration I know but...

dave_r · Post by **dave_r** » Thu Jan 14, 2010 9:11 pm

It's not a two list tourney!

I think a large part of the problem is with the lead that people own - people are using what they have. Assyrian and Egyptian were popular under DBM.

In any case, there are four different armies there, even though nobody took Urartian, which is probably the best army in the book!