Starter Armies (slight errors)

ianiow · Post by **ianiow** » Wed Nov 25, 2009 2:19 pm

I have been examining the armies in the PCFoG starter army battles and have found slight inconsistancies/errors when compared with the TT starter army lists

Assumptions:
Two TT bases = one PC base
PC Sub-commanders are taken from existing (usually cavalry) bases on the list.
PC Commander-in-Chief bases are in addition to the TT lists (ie free cav base +inspired/field/troop pts)

Carthage:
Balearic slingers- should have 3 bases not 2, they also should be Superior not average.

Seleucids:
Argyraspides- one is MF and should be HF

Macedonians:
Agema cavalry- should have one more
Hypaspids- should be all HF, but two are MF
Merc Peltasts- should be 4 of them, not 3
Rhodian slingers- should be drilled

Indians:
Bowmen- are missing their swords.
Elephants- should not be equipped with swords
Chariots- should not be equipped with swords. Has one more unit than it should have.

Rome:
Commander- should be Troop not Field
Italian foot- should be 3 bases not 4
(However, the Camp is not used so these changes may be a balancing act?)
EDIT One of the Principe is average and should be superior.

Ok, this may be nit-picking, but hey, these minor errors are easily changed. And the cheesy Romans dont need this unfair advantage anyway! lol

CharlesRobinson · Post by **CharlesRobinson** » Wed Nov 25, 2009 6:02 pm

For my scenerio's I have been using the commander ranges from the book - 4/8/12 instead of 3/5/8. I think this works better. What do you all think? Why does the game use a different set of values compared to the miniature rules? Thanks

ianiow · Post by **ianiow** » Mon Nov 30, 2009 2:36 pm

I have just spotted another couple of errors in Starter2. One of the Roman Principe is Avg while all the rest are Superior. Maybe he has a complex about fighting pike? I know i would.

Also one of the Seleucid Argyraspides is MF and should be HF.

I will edit my first post.

ianiow · Post by **ianiow** » Wed Dec 02, 2009 7:58 pm

D'oh. I have just noticed that the Pike points cost in PC FOG are worth x1.5 their Tabletop counterparts. That means the Seleucid pike numbers are correct after all. I will delete the appropriate comments from my first post.

Im pretty sure all the other troop types (except elephants) translate their points costs 1 to 1. I will check when i get the time

JMass · Post by **JMass** » Thu Dec 17, 2009 1:23 pm

In the new scenario "Start Army Battle 3" two Hypaspists units are HF and the third is MF.

Martin0112 · Post by **Martin0112** » Thu Dec 17, 2009 7:03 pm

Maybe I'm wrong, but I've played the newStarter Army Battle3 now 4 times, 2 times on each side.
The inetrsting thing is, that the indian bow NEVER shot, when he computer was playing them.
Nice for the macedonian general

And these units should be swordsmeas well, not 'only' bow.

Next to this, some tooltips on the elephants are looking strange, as well some of the tooltips on the chariots, but this is only a small hint.

I love this new troops!

ianiow · Post by **ianiow** » Thu Dec 17, 2009 9:19 pm

I have edited my original post to include the Hypaspids and the Indian bowmen.

ianiow · Post by **ianiow** » Fri Dec 18, 2009 4:39 pm

I have spotted a few inconsistancies with the TT lists in the Starter Armies 3 battle. Including the ones already spotted:-

Macedonian:

Agema cavalry- should have one more
Hypaspids- should be all HF, but two are MF
Merc Peltasts- should be 4 of them, not 3
Rhodian slingers- should be drilled

Indians:

Elephants- should not be equipped with swords
Chariots- should not be equipped with swords. Has one more unit than it should have.

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