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rbodleyscott
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Post by rbodleyscott »

I did a quick check through the lists for compliance with the above rules:

LATER EIGHTY YEARS WAR DUTCH

Minima
(1610-1640) 272

Maxima
(Before 1610) 1078
(From 1610) 856

LATER IMPERIAL SPANISH

Minima
(Italy) 300
(Flanders <1635> 1635) 318

Maxima
All OK

EARLY 17TH CENTURY FRENCH

Minima
OK

Maxima
(Before 1623) 1094
(From 1623) OK

THIRTY YEARS WAR DANISH

Minima
OK

Maxima
(Before 1625) 890
(From 1625) 998

(Is it deliberate that cuirassier date is 1628, but tercio date is 1629?)

EARLY THIRTY YEARS WAR GERMAN CATHOLIC

Minima
260

Maxima
OK

(Maximum heavily armoured cuirassiers is 18, but they are in BGs of 4.)


EARLY THIRTY YEARS WAR GERMAN PROTESTANT

Minima
OK

Maxima
OK

HUNGARIAN-TRANSYLVANIAN

Minima
OK

Maxima
OK

EARLY CAROLINE ENGLISH

Minima
OK

Maxima
1074

EARLY THIRTY YEARS WAR SWEDISH

Minima
OK

Maxima
OK

CONFEDERATE IRISH

Minima
OK

Maxima
OK

LATER THIRTY YEARS WAR GERMAN

Minima
(Before 1635) 320
(From 1635) 250

Maxima
OK at all date

(The overall minimum for Cuirassiers must be at least 4, as at least 4 are compulsory at every date)

LATER THIRTY YEARS WAR SWEDISH AND WEIMARIAN

Minima
OK

Maxima
OK

THIRTY YEARS WAR FRENCH

Minima
OK

Maxima
OK

THIRTY YEARS WAR PENINSULAR SPANISH

Minima
OK

Maxima
OK

SCOTS COVENANTER

Minima
OK

Maxima (examples)
(Ireland) 915
(1645-1649) 956
(1650) OK

(Should there be a line across the upper 24-120 box on the date line?)

SCOTS ROYALIST

Minima
(1639) 268
(1644) 278
(1645) 326

Maxima
(1639) 1088
(1644) 1082
(1645) OK

(Assorted excess spaces in the x-y ranges need to be stripped out)

EARLY RESTORATION PORTUGUESE

Minima
OK

Maxima
OK

EARLY ENGLISH CIVIL WAR ROYALIST

Minima
OK

Maxima
(1642) 869
(From 1643) OK


ENGLISH CIVIL WAR PARLIAMENTARIAN

Minima
OK

Maxima
(1642) 1100
(From 1643) OK

LATER ENGLISH CIVIL WAR ROYALIST

Minima
OK

Maxima
OK

NEW MODEL ARMY

Minima
OK

Maxima
OK

(The foot maxima should not be 64 – the BGs have 6 bases)

EARLY LOUIS XIV FRENCH

Minima
252

Maxima
OK
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Post by nikgaukroger »

One thing we haven't really looked at is Fortified Camps.

Not sure if any of the armies in this book should have the option though. OK, so there are certainly cases where Wallenstein and Gustavus, for example, fortified their camps quite extensively, but this was more a case of when they really didn't want to fight rather than a fortified camp that would end up behind the battle line IMO.

Anyone have any thoughts on this?
Nik Gaukroger

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Post by rbodleyscott »

nikgaukroger wrote:One thing we haven't really looked at is Fortified Camps.

Not sure if any of the armies in this book should have the option though. OK, so there are certainly cases where Wallenstein and Gustavus, for example, fortified their camps quite extensively, but this was more a case of when they really didn't want to fight rather than a fortified camp that would end up behind the battle line IMO.

Anyone have any thoughts on this?
Not I
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Post by Ghaznavid »

nikgaukroger wrote:One thing we haven't really looked at is Fortified Camps.

Not sure if any of the armies in this book should have the option though. OK, so there are certainly cases where Wallenstein and Gustavus, for example, fortified their camps quite extensively, but this was more a case of when they really didn't want to fight rather than a fortified camp that would end up behind the battle line IMO.

Anyone have any thoughts on this?
Far as I know attempts to fortify a camp where only made if an enemy was considere close by. Even then these might not usually have been enough to count as fortified camp. The sheer size of the armies and baggage probably made fortifications difficult, especially as the war dragged on and troops became less and less disciplined. So for the comparably smallish armies operating in close vicinity during parts of the palatinate war phase a fortified camp might be ok, otherwise ...
One idea might be to allow a fortified camp only if a certain ammount of field fortifcations are also bought, allowing (requiring) the fortified camp to be part of or at least to be inside the fortification.
Karsten


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