Black Hat Hoplites and Shield Transfers

pcelella · Post by **pcelella** » Sat Nov 21, 2009 1:57 pm

I've been considering picking up some of the Black Hat Miniatures Heavy Hoplites. I really like the way they look like about how I picture mercenary hoplites in the Hellenistic period, and with vertical spears, they also look like they will rank up rather easily. The thing with hoplites though is that I really am not a precise enough painter to hand paint the shield designs, and I really need to use transfers. The LBM ones if possible. I know that LBM doesn't make any specifically for Black Hat, but does anyone know if the ones made for Xyston or Old Glory 15 will fit, or will they be too large?

Peter C

ethan · Post by **ethan** » Sat Nov 21, 2009 4:26 pm

Essex transfers are also a possibility. I would stay away form Xyston as they tend to be the largest.

lawrenceg · Post by **lawrenceg** » Sat Nov 21, 2009 8:41 pm

You can also buy blank transfer sheets from Veni Vidi Vici and print your own the size you want.

pylum2 · Post by **pylum2** » Tue Dec 01, 2009 2:30 am

The Little Big Man transfers are really very well done. Be prepared,though,if the shields have a substantial curve to them,it is a little tricky at first applying them,until you get the hang of it. Waterslides,such as VVV,are much easier to work with,but dont have quite the artistry to them. I did 48 Old Glory Hoplites,and these are among the worst to work with. This was my experience,at any rate.

marioslaz · Post by **marioslaz** » Tue Dec 01, 2009 7:13 am

In my experience, Little Big Man transfer are best used with a little drop of vinilic glue on shield before apply transfer. This require much more attention when you apply water to detach transfer, but with this method you can adjust transfer after you remove paper.
Xyston hoplites shields have not problem with LBM transfer because are pretty flat. I had more problem with oscan javelinmen.

ethan · Post by **ethan** » Tue Dec 01, 2009 2:36 pm

marioslaz wrote:In my experience, Little Big Man transfer are best used with a little drop of vinilic glue on shield before apply transfer.

Not sure what vinilic glue is? Anyone have a suggestion.

I love LBM transfers and have been using them extensively recently. They do take some time to use and get good results, but it is really worth it.

pease1 · Post by **pease1** » Tue Dec 01, 2009 9:18 pm

Solvaset or Decal Sol helps a TON when applying decals to convex shields. Make sure the paint on the figure is completely dry. A coat of sealer before decals are applied isn't a bad idea. You can get these items here: http://www.michtoy.com/MTSCnewSite/supp ... plies.html

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marioslaz · Post by **marioslaz** » Wed Dec 02, 2009 8:12 am

ethan wrote:
marioslaz wrote:In my experience, Little Big Man transfer are best used with a little drop of vinilic glue on shield before apply transfer.
Not sure what vinilic glue is? Anyone have a suggestion.

I love LBM transfers and have been using them extensively recently. They do take some time to use and get good results, but it is really worth it.

Sorry, likely the correct English word is Vinyl. In Italy we have "Vinavil". I think another term to indicate it is "White Glue". Anyway, I apply it with a brush (it's an old brush I use only to apply glue) so there is a film all above shield's surface. When glue dries, it becomes perfectly transparent.

pylum2 · Post by **pylum2** » Wed Dec 02, 2009 9:30 am

marioslaz wrote:
ethan wrote:
marioslaz wrote:In my experience, Little Big Man transfer are best used with a little drop of vinilic glue on shield before apply transfer.
Not sure what vinilic glue is? Anyone have a suggestion.

I love LBM transfers and have been using them extensively recently. They do take some time to use and get good results, but it is really worth it.
Sorry, likely the correct English word is Vinyl. In Italy we have "Vinavil". I think another term to indicate it is "White Glue". Anyway, I apply it with a brush (it's an old brush I use only to apply glue) so there is a film all above shield's surface. When glue dries, it becomes perfectly transparent.

It sounds like PVA(actually Elmers to me). Thats the only white glue that I know of. I will have to try that when my work on Hoplites resumes next year sometime.

peterrjohnston · Post by **peterrjohnston** » Wed Dec 02, 2009 9:37 am

pylum2 wrote: It sounds like PVA(actually Elmers to me). Thats the only white glue that I know of. I will have to try that when my work on Hoplites resumes next year sometime.

PVA or white glue is correct, or wood/paper glue. Having suffered trying to explain what white glue is in Italy "Ah, you mean vinavil!"