is this list legal ?

pyrrhus · Post by **pyrrhus** » Thu Nov 05, 2009 1:47 pm

Doesnot Pyrrhus (IC) have to be the CinC in this list

FC plus 3 TCs
6 Light cavalry Light horse Unprotected Average Drilled Javelins Light spear
6 Archers Light foot Unprotected Average Drilled Bow
6 Archers Light foot Unprotected Average Drilled Bow
6 Samnite javelinmen Medium foot Protected Average Drilled - Light spear, swordsmen
6 Samnite javelinmen Medium foot Protected Average Drilled - Light spear, swordsmen
6 Samnite javelinmen Medium foot Protected Average Drilled - Light spear, swordsmen
12 Phalanx Heavy foot Protected Average Drilled - Pikemen
12 Phalanx Heavy foot Protected Average Drilled - Pikemen
8 Phalanx Heavy foot Protected Poor Drilled - Pikemen
8 Hoplites Heavy foot Protected Average Undrilled - Offensive spearmen
4 Javelin armed heavy cav Cavalry Armoured Average Drilled - Light spear, swordsmen
6 Xystophoroi Cavalry Armoured Superior Drilled - Lancers, swordsmen
Used by Martin van Tol at Ascot 2008

peterrjohnston · Post by **peterrjohnston** » Thu Nov 05, 2009 2:34 pm

Irrespective of whether the CinC should be an IC, I would check any list on Tim's site as many are written down on the day in a game. Their use is more for ideas, it doesn't imply 100% correct and accurate lists!

(The original was used at Ascot, and would have gone through list checking).

berthier · Post by **berthier** » Thu Nov 05, 2009 4:13 pm

There is no requirement in the list itself stating that Pyrrhus is required to be purchased as an IC. There is nothing in the Errata stating a correction either. The starter armies are listed as an example and the authors (and others) have stated in the past that they may or may not be legal in themselves and that players should always refer to the main army list for the army in question for all requirements.

Christopher Anders

pyrrhus · Post by **pyrrhus** » Thu Nov 05, 2009 8:23 pm

In the field of glory books Rise of rome ,Pyrrhic list under CinC it has inspired commander 80pts 1 .In the rules page 149(commanders) it states (Each army must have a commander in chief and 1-3 subordinate or allied commanders .The only one listedin the CinC catagory is Inspired commander . so to my understanding every pyrrhic list would require a inspired commander as CinC so the list wasnot legal .I am not making a moral judgement I just want to understand the rules .

philqw78 · Post by **philqw78** » Thu Nov 05, 2009 8:28 pm

As the list is written you are correct. The CinC of this army must be an IC.

pyrrhus · Post by **pyrrhus** » Thu Nov 05, 2009 8:31 pm

That makes it more challenging in the list building department thanks phil

berthier · Post by **berthier** » Thu Nov 05, 2009 11:46 pm

I stand corrected. I forgot to look at the top line of the army (dope!) and looked further down at special campaigns and such.

kevinj · Post by **kevinj** » Fri Nov 06, 2009 12:00 pm

This army as listed comes in at 769 points. Upgrading the FC to the required IC would make it 799, so I suspect the error is merely a typo in recreating the list.

madaxeman · Post by **madaxeman** » Fri Nov 06, 2009 1:59 pm

kevinj wrote:This army as listed comes in at 769 points. Upgrading the FC to the required IC would make it 799, so I suspect the error is merely a typo in recreating the list.

I guess someone should change it then - any volunteers...?

berthier · Post by **berthier** » Fri Nov 06, 2009 3:07 pm

The "dope!" changed it to reflect the correct list.