TDC VIII Classical - Results
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Re: TDC VIII Classical - Results
Division B
jaerho Spanish (Sertorious) 80-70 BC
defeats
lunecastle Lysimachid 320-281 BC with Seleucid allies
44-17
jaerho Spanish (Sertorious) 80-70 BC
defeats
lunecastle Lysimachid 320-281 BC with Seleucid allies
44-17
Re: TDC VIII Classical - Results
Division C
devoncop (Samnite 355BC) defeated mcfcivo (Graeco0Bactrian 250-130BC with Saka 300BC-50AD allies)...63-44
Tournament points
devoncop 60+19 = 79
mcfcivo 44 = 44
The Samnites built up and early lead which the stubborn Graeco Bactrian elephants and phalanxes proceeded to claw back but not quite quickly enough. A very hard won victory.
Well played to my opponent.
devoncop (Samnite 355BC) defeated mcfcivo (Graeco0Bactrian 250-130BC with Saka 300BC-50AD allies)...63-44
Tournament points
devoncop 60+19 = 79
mcfcivo 44 = 44
The Samnites built up and early lead which the stubborn Graeco Bactrian elephants and phalanxes proceeded to claw back but not quite quickly enough. A very hard won victory.
Well played to my opponent.
Re: TDC VIII Classical - Results
Div B
Grahamed, Selucid 166-125BC with Parthian (250-225BC) allies
defeated f
Frederic02 Carthaginians 262-236 BC with greek
48-18
Good hard fought game, Thanks
Grahamed, Selucid 166-125BC with Parthian (250-225BC) allies
defeated f
Frederic02 Carthaginians 262-236 BC with greek
48-18
Good hard fought game, Thanks
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Re: TDC VIII Classical - Results
Div B
frederic02 (Carthaginians wth greek allies) defeated Alexmike1 (Carthaginians with samnites allies) 62-59.
Thanks for the match.
frederic02 (Carthaginians wth greek allies) defeated Alexmike1 (Carthaginians with samnites allies) 62-59.
Thanks for the match.

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Re: TDC VIII Classical - Results
Division C
Pergamene [Chris Townsend] successfully asserted its independence and the Antigonid (and allies) [IMC] are returning to Greece, having been defeated 46 to 19.
Pergamene was gifted with substantial woods/rough on each flank, with three of the 9 squares in the gap being rough or a built up area, and deployed warbands and thureophoroi in the gap and lots of low point irregulars, militia thureophoroi and massed peltasts in the woods, with a strong skirmisher line and a small cavalry force on a road through the left flank woods. The Antigonid force was mostly heavy troops and cavalry, though there was a decent skirmisher force and a few medium infantry.
The battle opened with a clash of skirmishers, and when the Pergamene numbers began to tell, the Antigonid line moved forward in support. On the Pergamene right, the battle was essentially a draw, with irregulars on rough terrain preventing progress by the Antigonid heavies, but not having the strength to counterattack into open terrain. On the Pergamene left, their medium infantry emerged from the woods and achieved local infantry superiority in numbers, offset by Antigonid quality, and troops, including the Pergamene cavalry, were added piece meal by each side.
Correctly sensing that he was slowly losing the battle on his right, the Antigonid general courageously decided to march the phalanx forward and assault the Pergamene centre. Unfortunately luck was against him. Two of the three initial charges against warbands resulted in the phalanx being pushed back and disrupted. And, although the phalanx successfully pushed back the thureophoroi, it exposed their flank to a deadly and well co-ordinated counterattack. It was all over except the fighting
A good game against a courageous Antigonid commander!
Pergamene [Chris Townsend] successfully asserted its independence and the Antigonid (and allies) [IMC] are returning to Greece, having been defeated 46 to 19.
Pergamene was gifted with substantial woods/rough on each flank, with three of the 9 squares in the gap being rough or a built up area, and deployed warbands and thureophoroi in the gap and lots of low point irregulars, militia thureophoroi and massed peltasts in the woods, with a strong skirmisher line and a small cavalry force on a road through the left flank woods. The Antigonid force was mostly heavy troops and cavalry, though there was a decent skirmisher force and a few medium infantry.
The battle opened with a clash of skirmishers, and when the Pergamene numbers began to tell, the Antigonid line moved forward in support. On the Pergamene right, the battle was essentially a draw, with irregulars on rough terrain preventing progress by the Antigonid heavies, but not having the strength to counterattack into open terrain. On the Pergamene left, their medium infantry emerged from the woods and achieved local infantry superiority in numbers, offset by Antigonid quality, and troops, including the Pergamene cavalry, were added piece meal by each side.
Correctly sensing that he was slowly losing the battle on his right, the Antigonid general courageously decided to march the phalanx forward and assault the Pergamene centre. Unfortunately luck was against him. Two of the three initial charges against warbands resulted in the phalanx being pushed back and disrupted. And, although the phalanx successfully pushed back the thureophoroi, it exposed their flank to a deadly and well co-ordinated counterattack. It was all over except the fighting

A good game against a courageous Antigonid commander!
Re: TDC VIII Classical - Results
caroenkm (Roman) beat Morat (Galatian) 40 -8
A tough battle up hill for the Galatians and the warbands really didnt want to play. Unluck with the disruptions ended and promising battle. well played.
A tough battle up hill for the Galatians and the warbands really didnt want to play. Unluck with the disruptions ended and promising battle. well played.
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Re: TDC VIII Classical - Results
Division B
jaerho Spanish (Sertorious) 80-70 BC
defeats
ulysisgrunt Roman 105-25 BC with Numidian or Moorish allies
46-19
jaerho Spanish (Sertorious) 80-70 BC
defeats
ulysisgrunt Roman 105-25 BC with Numidian or Moorish allies
46-19
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Re: TDC VIII Classical - Results
Division B
jaerho Spanish (Sertorious) 80-70 BC
defeats
alexmike1 Carthaginian (Hannibal in Italy) 216-203 BC with Samnite allies
60-58
The narrowest of wins. The Carthaginians won the center and the Spanish won the flanks. Great game to alexmike1
jaerho Spanish (Sertorious) 80-70 BC
defeats
alexmike1 Carthaginian (Hannibal in Italy) 216-203 BC with Samnite allies
60-58
The narrowest of wins. The Carthaginians won the center and the Spanish won the flanks. Great game to alexmike1
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Re: TDC VIII Classical - Results
Division C
As a follow-up to Pergamene's efforts to maintain their independence from the Antigonids, I am please to report that the Macedonians and their Greek allies are also leaving Asia Minor (perhaps for an interesting discussion about the Agean peninsula with those Antigonids!).
With a mostly open map, Pergamene ignored the smallish hill on their right front and deployed in three groups. Theurophoroi supported by some medium cavalry in a substantial woods on their right, warbands supported by artillery and some medium infantry in rough and marsh in the rear centre, and the Xystophoroi in the rear right. All three forces were screened by a strong mix of skirmishers, including light cavalry.
The Macedonians deployed a mostly heavy infantry force, supported by a mix of cavalry, skirmishers and medium infantry for an assault on the empty hill! The Xystophoroi began a long circuit around the battlefield, shepherded by a similar size force of cavalry, elephant and infantry, eventually ending up in the melee in front of the woods, with mixed success. That melee developed from both sides supporting their skirmishers, and probably caused the majority of the Pergamene casualties. In behind that hill, outnumbered Macedonian skirmishers got ahead of their support, and were brutally cut down just as the support arrived. Together with the artillery, this gave Pergamene unanswered missile superiority, which resulted in the troops advancing on the Pergamene centre arriving quite depleted, and the defending warriors were able to substantially stand and, in fact, successfully counter attack.
Together with those skirmishers losses, this means Chris Townsend's Pergamene 262 defeated Rob123's Macedonian 320 + Greek 280 allies 65 to 37.
Good game.
As a follow-up to Pergamene's efforts to maintain their independence from the Antigonids, I am please to report that the Macedonians and their Greek allies are also leaving Asia Minor (perhaps for an interesting discussion about the Agean peninsula with those Antigonids!).
With a mostly open map, Pergamene ignored the smallish hill on their right front and deployed in three groups. Theurophoroi supported by some medium cavalry in a substantial woods on their right, warbands supported by artillery and some medium infantry in rough and marsh in the rear centre, and the Xystophoroi in the rear right. All three forces were screened by a strong mix of skirmishers, including light cavalry.
The Macedonians deployed a mostly heavy infantry force, supported by a mix of cavalry, skirmishers and medium infantry for an assault on the empty hill! The Xystophoroi began a long circuit around the battlefield, shepherded by a similar size force of cavalry, elephant and infantry, eventually ending up in the melee in front of the woods, with mixed success. That melee developed from both sides supporting their skirmishers, and probably caused the majority of the Pergamene casualties. In behind that hill, outnumbered Macedonian skirmishers got ahead of their support, and were brutally cut down just as the support arrived. Together with the artillery, this gave Pergamene unanswered missile superiority, which resulted in the troops advancing on the Pergamene centre arriving quite depleted, and the defending warriors were able to substantially stand and, in fact, successfully counter attack.
Together with those skirmishers losses, this means Chris Townsend's Pergamene 262 defeated Rob123's Macedonian 320 + Greek 280 allies 65 to 37.
Good game.
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Re: TDC VIII Classical - Results
Division D
countykgamer Macedonian 260-148BC with Greek allies 227 - 47%
Beat
mejobo Antigonid 320BC - 301BC - 61%
61-47 Win
countykgamer Macedonian 260-148BC with Greek allies 227 - 47%
Beat
mejobo Antigonid 320BC - 301BC - 61%
61-47 Win
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Re: TDC VIII Classical - Results
Division D
countykgamer Macedonian 260-148BC with Greek allies 227 - 13% losses
Beat
Indibil Parthian 250 BC - 225 AD with Seleucid 166 BC - 43% losses
43-13
countykgamer Macedonian 260-148BC with Greek allies 227 - 13% losses
Beat
Indibil Parthian 250 BC - 225 AD with Seleucid 166 BC - 43% losses
43-13
Re: TDC VIII Classical - Results
Division D
SawyerK leading the Macedonian 355-329 BC army with Greek 460-281 BC ally
defeated
excubitor and his Pyrrhic 274-273 BC army
by 53-28.
This battle was fought in and between two areas of rough ground at a roughly 45-degree angle to the map. The Pyrrhics conquered the southernmost parcel of rough ground while the Macedonians took the northern patch. The two parties battled fiercely for the middle clear section as the Macedonians won the northern clear area. That success allowed them to reach a 25-point differential win just as the Pyrrhics were poised to launch two heavy cavalry rear attacks on the disputed central region.
SawyerK leading the Macedonian 355-329 BC army with Greek 460-281 BC ally
defeated
excubitor and his Pyrrhic 274-273 BC army
by 53-28.
This battle was fought in and between two areas of rough ground at a roughly 45-degree angle to the map. The Pyrrhics conquered the southernmost parcel of rough ground while the Macedonians took the northern patch. The two parties battled fiercely for the middle clear section as the Macedonians won the northern clear area. That success allowed them to reach a 25-point differential win just as the Pyrrhics were poised to launch two heavy cavalry rear attacks on the disputed central region.
Re: TDC VIII Classical - Results
Division A
Kroche Carthaginian 490-411BC w Greek 460 33% loss
defeats
tyronec Egyptian 570-525 + Kyrenean Greek 58% loss
Egyptians directed forces against the weaker Carthaginian left, while Carthaginians assembled more forces in the centre and their right. Carthaginian left was very vulnerable as the Egyptian movement enabled them to strike first as the Carthaginians were still moving forces to the centre. It was a good battle with lots of melees between the spearmen. The Carthaginian left held up the Egyptians long enough for their main force to win in the centre. Carthaginian infantry won the day through greater resilience and Egyptians lost through generally bad dice rolls in the key early clashes which prevented them from flanking the Carthaginian centre. GG
Kroche Carthaginian 490-411BC w Greek 460 33% loss
defeats
tyronec Egyptian 570-525 + Kyrenean Greek 58% loss
Egyptians directed forces against the weaker Carthaginian left, while Carthaginians assembled more forces in the centre and their right. Carthaginian left was very vulnerable as the Egyptian movement enabled them to strike first as the Carthaginians were still moving forces to the centre. It was a good battle with lots of melees between the spearmen. The Carthaginian left held up the Egyptians long enough for their main force to win in the centre. Carthaginian infantry won the day through greater resilience and Egyptians lost through generally bad dice rolls in the key early clashes which prevented them from flanking the Carthaginian centre. GG
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Re: TDC VIII Classical - Results
Div B
Lunecastle defeats Garokan 41-16 .
GG. All the best, Lunecastle
Lunecastle defeats Garokan 41-16 .
GG. All the best, Lunecastle
Re: TDC VIII Classical - Results
Division D
excubitor (Pyrrhic 274-273 BC) - vs - countykgamer (Macedonian 355-329 BC + Greek Allies 460-281 BC)
excubitor won: 41 - 13
The battlefield was plain on the right of the Macedonians, where they placed a significantly higher number of phalanxes than the Pyrrhic army. The center of the map had a marsh, a hill (favoring the Pyrrhic army), and a small forest. Macedonian skirmishers dominated the marsh while Pyrrhic light troops took cover in the forest. Fighting started on the left of the Macedonian army, on the slopes of a dominating hill. There, a Pyrrhic cavalry charge turned into a disaster, costing them 2 elite cavalry units. Both sides tried to dominate the center of the battlefield, but the Pyrrhic army had more units there. As the Macedonian right pushed forward, Pyrrhic's left withdrew to a more advantageous position on a small hill. In the end, Macedonian phalanxes were engaged one by one and slowly defeated, while in the center, Pyrrhic troops managed to hold their ground despite their losses. A lot of maneuvering and some bad luck for the Macedonian cavalry turned this battle into a victory for the Pyrrhic army, which was closer than the score can tell.
excubitor (Pyrrhic 274-273 BC) - vs - countykgamer (Macedonian 355-329 BC + Greek Allies 460-281 BC)
excubitor won: 41 - 13
The battlefield was plain on the right of the Macedonians, where they placed a significantly higher number of phalanxes than the Pyrrhic army. The center of the map had a marsh, a hill (favoring the Pyrrhic army), and a small forest. Macedonian skirmishers dominated the marsh while Pyrrhic light troops took cover in the forest. Fighting started on the left of the Macedonian army, on the slopes of a dominating hill. There, a Pyrrhic cavalry charge turned into a disaster, costing them 2 elite cavalry units. Both sides tried to dominate the center of the battlefield, but the Pyrrhic army had more units there. As the Macedonian right pushed forward, Pyrrhic's left withdrew to a more advantageous position on a small hill. In the end, Macedonian phalanxes were engaged one by one and slowly defeated, while in the center, Pyrrhic troops managed to hold their ground despite their losses. A lot of maneuvering and some bad luck for the Macedonian cavalry turned this battle into a victory for the Pyrrhic army, which was closer than the score can tell.
Re: TDC VIII Classical - Results
Division D
Antivirt defeated Asterix_von_TWC 62-38
Antivirt defeated Asterix_von_TWC 62-38
Re: TDC VIII Classical - Results
Division A
Kroche Carthaginian 490-411BC w Greek 460 42% loss
defeats
random27 jewish 64BC-6AD with parthian 62% loss
Heavy Carthaginian infantry triumphed against the Jewish mediums in the centre. Jewish/Parthian cavalry threatened both wings, were held up on the Carthaginian right and only managed to create minor chaos on Carthaginian left. GG
Kroche Carthaginian 490-411BC w Greek 460 42% loss
defeats
random27 jewish 64BC-6AD with parthian 62% loss
Heavy Carthaginian infantry triumphed against the Jewish mediums in the centre. Jewish/Parthian cavalry threatened both wings, were held up on the Carthaginian right and only managed to create minor chaos on Carthaginian left. GG
Re: TDC VIII Classical - Results
Div A
Karvon Parthian with Arabs defeated carpenkm Roman 105 -25 + Armenian 46-17.
Parthian wings both rode wide around the opposing Romans and shot up and destroyed most of the opposing mounted, lights and mediums. Picked off one or two isolated heavy foot for the win. Lost a few lights and horse archers in the process.
Karvon Parthian with Arabs defeated carpenkm Roman 105 -25 + Armenian 46-17.
Parthian wings both rode wide around the opposing Romans and shot up and destroyed most of the opposing mounted, lights and mediums. Picked off one or two isolated heavy foot for the win. Lost a few lights and horse archers in the process.
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Re: TDC VIII Classical - Results
Division D
SawyerK leading the Macedonian 355-329 BC army with Greek 460-281 BC ally
defeated
NeroWolfe and his Ptolemaic 217-167 BC army
by 55-28.
This battle was fought between two extensive mountain ranges that removed any flanking opportunities. It thus featured brutal pike-on-pike assaults and little to no cavalry activity. The Macedonians used extensive light foot and heavy artillery to soften the opposing pikes before contact, and that helped bring home the win.
SawyerK leading the Macedonian 355-329 BC army with Greek 460-281 BC ally
defeated
NeroWolfe and his Ptolemaic 217-167 BC army
by 55-28.
This battle was fought between two extensive mountain ranges that removed any flanking opportunities. It thus featured brutal pike-on-pike assaults and little to no cavalry activity. The Macedonians used extensive light foot and heavy artillery to soften the opposing pikes before contact, and that helped bring home the win.
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Re: TDC VIII Classical - Results
Div C
Rockmanbob123 (Selecuids) defeated Ironclad (Carthaginians)
61-54
Rockmanbob123 (Selecuids) defeated Ironclad (Carthaginians)
61-54