A small question

[Walrus09]

Why can't tribal nations mine iron? Also, why can't tribal nations use surface mining (of any kind(?

[SuitedQueens]

Why can't tribal nations mine iron? Also, why can't tribal nations use surface mining (of any kind(?

They can actually do Surface mining since its a tier 1 structure. New patch will allow tribes to build Iron Mines for sure and potentially will increase Authority gain for staying below Denesne limit. We already got free Rituals, which is a huge upgrade.

[Walrus09]

Playing as Suomi and Vepsians a few times i've never gotten the option to build surface mining. I was able to build a lead mine after conquering estonia but aside from that i've never had the option of building a mine, surface or otherwise. It's frustrating because religious buildings require copper and brass, and smelters require iron. Also, it seems that tribal nations can't build brass smelters. Maybe other tribal nations have access to metals but Suomi and Vepsians have none.

Edit: Also, Prospect for Resources only works about 5% of the time for tribal nations. For other nations it's 25% or 33% of the time.

[SuitedQueens]

Playing as Suomi and Vepsians a few times i've never gotten the option to build surface mining. I was able to build a lead mine after conquering estonia but aside from that i've never had the option of building a mine, surface or otherwise. It's frustrating because religious buildings require copper and brass, and smelters require iron. Also, it seems that tribal nations can't build brass smelters. Maybe other tribal nations have access to metals but Suomi and Vepsians have none.

Edit: Also, Prospect for Resources only works about 5% of the time for tribal nations. For other nations it's 25% or 33% of the time.

Surface Mining is rare and can be built only in the Hills or Arid Hills. Look into your Edicts often. Same condition for the mines, so make sure it shows up in the available structures. For mines you need respective Vein and Mining Exploration. Brass Smelter isn't available to Tribals. Look closely at which religious structures you control. If they are of Christian or Muslim origin - not worth it cuz reduced output unless they provide Legacy bonuses.

For Prospect Resources you want to explore regions where you didn't find much resources yet. It has a chance to fall on the -1 field or already discovered resource, in which case you get nothing. My success chance are higher than this, but Prospect appearance chance have to be buffed based on number of Mining Explorations, cuz now its rather insignificant.

[Pocus]

I'll look into these issues but it came too late for the upcoming patch.