hi everyone.i really like the history of gaius julius caesar.so i decide to do a LRR army.i am new to FOG and ancient but not a noob for wargame.i have been playing FOW for 3 years now.i have made a army for LRR.but not sure how this army will play out.i need all your veteran ancient wargamer's advice before i startto buying minis.thank you!
1xIC 80
3xTC 105
4x6BG legionaries HF armoured sup drilled IF SSW 336
1x5BG legionaries HF armoured sup drilled IF SSW 70
1x6BG velites LF protected average drilled javelines LS 30
1x4BG HC armoured average undrilled LS SW 72
1x6BG cretan archer LF unprotected sup drilled bow 36
1x6BG spansh scutarii MF protected average undrilled IF SW 42
fortified camp 24
total 795point
i belive i will have problem against knight and massive spear and pike formation.but anything else i should be fine.
LRR army i am new to FOG need some advice
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5 isn't a legal strength for a BG so you will need to change that group to a smaller one or a lower graded one. BGs must initially have an even number of stands unless they are ones that are 1/3 one type and 2/3 another, e.g. 2/3 HF + 1/3 LF archers.
You might want to buy some of the legionaries BGs as 4s to give you more maneuverability.
Chris
You might want to buy some of the legionaries BGs as 4s to give you more maneuverability.
Chris
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I use Late Republican Romans quite a lot and they are one of my favourite armies. I always use the legionaries in BGs of 4. Being armoured, they don't suffer too much fron shooting and the added flexibility and greater number of BGs in the army help lots.
I would try and take the cavalry as superior protected - they are the same points and their main use in any game is to sit behind the legionaries and give them support. Protected are adeqaute to deal with LH and even as armoured, they will be outclassed and generally outnumbered by most enemy cavalry.
I don't use MF in my army as the legionaries are perfectly capable of fighting in rough terrain and the MF are often a weak point in the line.
If you are worried about knights (or cataphracts), taking a BG of 2 elephants is worth it. It does mean however that you have to tie up a TC with them for most of the game.
I try to take the cheapest LF possible (2 BGs of 6 slingers), although both the protected velites and the superior Cretans have their uses (my son uses them a lot) - however, I believe that the points are better spent on more (superior) legionaries - you should be able to get at least 8 BGs of 4. Note that, from an historical point of view, if you are fielding Caeser's army, then velites are no longer available (being from the period of Marius and Sulla), only unprotected javelinmen.
Pikes can be difficult, however, Legionaries are tough against them and in a protracted fight, it can go horribly wrong for the pike very quickly - when you roll two 1s for a cohesion test with one of your legions, you get to roll again - when a pike block rolls two 1s it is usually fragmented and then dead.
A nice option is to take a Numidian ally to give you 3 Bgs of 4 LH and 1 BG of 4 LF under a TC ally-general.
Corvus Belli do very nice 15mm figures for this period.
I would try and take the cavalry as superior protected - they are the same points and their main use in any game is to sit behind the legionaries and give them support. Protected are adeqaute to deal with LH and even as armoured, they will be outclassed and generally outnumbered by most enemy cavalry.
I don't use MF in my army as the legionaries are perfectly capable of fighting in rough terrain and the MF are often a weak point in the line.
If you are worried about knights (or cataphracts), taking a BG of 2 elephants is worth it. It does mean however that you have to tie up a TC with them for most of the game.
I try to take the cheapest LF possible (2 BGs of 6 slingers), although both the protected velites and the superior Cretans have their uses (my son uses them a lot) - however, I believe that the points are better spent on more (superior) legionaries - you should be able to get at least 8 BGs of 4. Note that, from an historical point of view, if you are fielding Caeser's army, then velites are no longer available (being from the period of Marius and Sulla), only unprotected javelinmen.
Pikes can be difficult, however, Legionaries are tough against them and in a protracted fight, it can go horribly wrong for the pike very quickly - when you roll two 1s for a cohesion test with one of your legions, you get to roll again - when a pike block rolls two 1s it is usually fragmented and then dead.
A nice option is to take a Numidian ally to give you 3 Bgs of 4 LH and 1 BG of 4 LF under a TC ally-general.
Corvus Belli do very nice 15mm figures for this period.
Robert241167 wrote:I would consider losing the IC as your legions are drilled and shouldn't suffer too much from shooting. Also losing initiative and moving first you have a better chance of getting your troops across the table.
Saving on the IC would enable you to have some skirmishing light horse.
Rob
More light horses to shoot at did you say Rob
Nice to see you again BTW.
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