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Re: Yurts
Irmin wrote:Other than Baueda does anyone know of any other manufacturer of Yurts?
Also did the Mongols (specifically the ilkhanids) palisade their camps.
Some did, we have a record of Qaidu and his troops falling back on their camp and dismounting to fight from behind the palisades. However, peacetime camps are described as 'without walls' by many sources. Given the lack of descriptions of wartime camps we have to guess. My best guess is that it was done occasionally for marching camps and more frequently for semi permanent ones in hostile territory.
nb the felt tent is a ger, the tents and stock lines of the family is the yurt.
Tom..
Is this a bad time to point out that the concept of a complete assembled ger on a giant wagon is mostly a figment of Victorian imagination.Irmin wrote:The irregular one looks like a piece of cloth thrown over a tripd not a circular ger shape at all. I guess until Claudio completes his work at baueda it may be one of his gers put onto a 25mm wagonkevinj wrote:Irregular Miniatures make one, AS29 in their "Asian" Range.
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Dismantling a ger takes 20-30 min, it all packs onto a couple of ox drawn carts. Putting it back up takes about the same.
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So the writings of Marco Polo, William of Rubruck and Friar Giovanni DiPlano Carpini all describing ger wagons are incorrect or doctored?tadamson wrote:Is this a bad time to point out that the concept of a complete assembled ger on a giant wagon is mostly a figment of Victorian imagination.Irmin wrote:The irregular one looks like a piece of cloth thrown over a tripd not a circular ger shape at all. I guess until Claudio completes his work at baueda it may be one of his gers put onto a 25mm wagonkevinj wrote:Irregular Miniatures make one, AS29 in their "Asian" Range.
Kevin
Dismantling a ger takes 20-30 min, it all packs onto a couple of ox drawn carts. Putting it back up takes about the same.
Don't know about the others but take what Marco Polo says with a large pinch of salt he tried to write himself and his family into events that happened decades before he hit the plains.Irmin wrote:So the writings of Marco Polo, William of Rubruck and Friar Giovanni DiPlano Carpini all describing ger wagons are incorrect or doctored?tadamson wrote:Is this a bad time to point out that the concept of a complete assembled ger on a giant wagon is mostly a figment of Victorian imagination.Irmin wrote: The irregular one looks like a piece of cloth thrown over a tripd not a circular ger shape at all. I guess until Claudio completes his work at baueda it may be one of his gers put onto a 25mm wagon
Dismantling a ger takes 20-30 min, it all packs onto a couple of ox drawn carts. Putting it back up takes about the same.
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I have a Yurt wagon that I picked up from Eureka. has a nice little flag on top too.
http://eurekamin.com.au/product_info.ph ... ts_id=4512
No pic, if you want a pic I could do one tonight of my Yurt..
http://eurekamin.com.au/product_info.ph ... ts_id=4512
No pic, if you want a pic I could do one tonight of my Yurt..
Rubruck's account http://depts.washington.edu/silkroad/te ... html#yurts is odd, He talks of tents and setting up but he includes the two wheeled cart with a 20 foot axle and 22 oxen.Irmin wrote:So the writings of Marco Polo, William of Rubruck and Friar Giovanni DiPlano Carpini all describing ger wagons are incorrect or doctored?tadamson wrote:
Is this a bad time to point out that the concept of a complete assembled ger on a giant wagon is mostly a figment of Victorian imagination.
Dismantling a ger takes 20-30 min, it all packs onto a couple of ox drawn carts. Putting it back up takes about the same.
http://www.archive.org/details/contemporariesof00komr
Carpini says that some tents can't be taken apart and are moved on carts.
Both use 'scena' and 'tentorium' to describe ger.
I have my doubts about Rubruck's giant cart though I can see smaller assembled tents on carts. All the Eastern sources talk of taking down the tents and carrying them on carts.