Livy is to say the least a biased source. To accept his claims the Etruscans were effete and cowardly and only a threat because of their huge numbers is risky. However it is likely that he will be a bit more accurate as to who Rome was fighting in a particular battle. I think we can accept some Gall...

Looking for an opponent in West Kent or London to take on a dark age Frankish horde. I can probably make it fit either the Merovingian or Carolingian lists in Wolves from the Sea.

N.B. Has anyone else noticed the Carolingian Starter list seems to be illegal. It has Gascons and East Franks.

The 1500 to 1660 period is the hardest for rule writer to get right. At the start you have armies which are very similar to Late Medieval armies but which quickly develop new infantry formations combining missile troops and pike. (in Western Europe at least). The problem is to represrnt thse combine...

For me it has to be those Knightly followers of Charlemagne or even better the Hautevilles. The imighty Robert "Guiscard" who had two Emperors running from him at the same time is one om favourite historical characters.

It does not seem to matter which rule system people use with Burgundian Ordonnance. The army seems to lack something. My thought is that it lacks enough good melee infantry. Historically of course it was smashed in most of its battles, though that might be blamed on Charles' poor generalship. Perhap...

Anyone playing FOG in The area around Wood Green, North London. I have some 10mm toys which I can cobble into several armies, and a part painted Medieval German. I am also trying to finish a Slave Revolt Army (I'm a sucker for rubbish armies).

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The Army list books mention that some list will appear on the web site. Have any done so and where do I find them?

The listing for Scots Continetal Allies in Storm of Arrows is, to say the least controversial. Dismounted MAA and Longbowmen. I would like to knw the sources for this. Not saying it's wrong but this is a radical revision and I'd like to check it out for myself.

As a mainly 10mm figs man my aries are based on 20mm this lets you get 2 ranks of HI on a base which gives good mass effect. I use smaller numbers for looser order types.

So basically as I say it is worse than Lance but costs the same. The advantage of being able to skirmish would apply without the spear and it will rarely count in impact.

I would suspect the Maurikians might get counted as Lancesr with Bow* when the list comes out.

Cavalry Light Spear is confusing me a bit. Does it only count when all other POA cancel out or if the unit with it has no POA? It seems to cost the same as Lance but to be really inferior in game terms.

Anyone in North London playing FOG in 10mm?