Adding new functionality to engineers...?

[Amaris]

PS. Mod lets engineers demolish tank traps that are behind them?
(ie. not in the same square)

Is that intentional?

If the script do it that's is intentional. ('it's not a bug it's feature' song)

Effectively it seems more logical to be able to remove tank trap only on its own tile. Fixed on the next release.

[Amaris]

PS. The 1st two turns are taken up by a dual-side deploy mod (developed by Merr).
It's the only way I've seen that both players in an MP game can deploy their forces around preset zones of the battle map.
Which might also be rather handy for large Pacific ocean maps?

My next 'challenge': better understanding of the multiplayer mode. Then transform Battle Academy into a civ-like or 4X game.

[GottaLove88s]

YAY!! Can't wait...

[GottaLove88s]

if the script do it that's is intentional. ('it's not a bug it's feature' song)

Effectively it seems more logical to be able to remove tank trap only on its own tile. Fixed on the next release.

Haha... Good answer... Thanks for the fix too

[GottaLove88s]

PS. The 1st two turns are taken up by a dual-side deploy mod (developed by Merr).
It's the only way I've seen that both players in an MP game can deploy their forces around preset zones of the battle map.
Which might also be rather handy for large Pacific ocean maps?

My next 'challenge': better understanding of the multiplayer mode. Then transform Battle Academy into a civ-like or 4X game.

Yeah, Merr has developed a lot of cunning MP code, that lets BA do things that it's really not supposed to be able to do (u'r not related to him ru? ). We use most of it in GJS'44, so feel free to play n plunder...

Tbh the next version of ur Pacific series will go a long way towards the best aspects of Civ... Multiple ship types, aircraft, broad mix of land units, large scale maps, beach, jungle & fortress assaults and defences... If you ever feel u'd like some help, I'd be a happy collaborateur to work on some VERY large maps for this...
Is there a max map size in BA?

[Amaris]

Yeah, Merr has developed a lot of cunning MP code, that lets BA do things that it's really not supposed to be able to do (u'r not related to him ru? ). We use most of it in GJS'44, so feel free to play n plunder...

Tbh the next version of ur Pacific series will go a long way towards the best aspects of Civ... Multiple ship types, aircraft, broad mix of land units, large scale maps, beach, jungle & fortress assaults and defences... If you ever feel u'd like some help, I'd be a happy collaborateur to work on some VERY large maps for this...

Um a volunteer? gladly.
I ask only little thing: your soul!
Will speak on the topic dedicated.

Is there a max map size in BA?

Yeah! 64x64. As the limit of 64 units per side.

[Amaris]

The new version (version3) is available: http://amaris-games.com/ba-amaris/improved-engineer/

- fixed remove tank trap: only avaible on this own tile
- rewrite the hedge cutting without GetUnitFacing (code is ugly, but who cares? ). Some quick tests: it works. but this needs confirmation.

[GottaLove88s]

Does it check that engineer still has AP=16 before allowing it to Add Tank Trap?

[Amaris]

Does it check that engineer still has AP=16 before allowing it to Add Tank Trap?

[Amaris]

Fixed! New version4 available: http://amaris-games.com/ba-amaris/improved-engineer/

[GottaLove88s]

Would you mind if I changed it so that AP must be 16 to permit Engineer to execute any of these new moves (ie. it can only do one of them per turn)
But these new actions only subtract 8 AP points, so that the engineer could make a one-space move immediately afterwards?

Otherwise, the enemy will know exactly which space the engineer is in... And on maps with mortars, that's going to lead to many dead engineers...

[GottaLove88s]

Thanks Amaris,

Have downloaded your latest version... Good news: Everything still works, Bad news: Except the Hedgerow...

Below, three Brit engineers have blown up Hedgerow.
The two engineers on the left blew up the Hedgerow walls in front of them... Oddly, the Hedgerow has gone, but the stone walls have not (type = desert stone wall straight).
Does the wall need to be in the same square as the engineer? Or in the same square as the hedgerow? Or does where the wall is not matter too much?
Btw the engineer on the right blew up the hedgerow in the field (which did not have an accompanying wall) correctly.


The Germans too, can blow up Hedgerow.
The engineer on the left has correctly blown up Wall & Hedgerow together... NICE! This is going to make Carpiquet MUCH more fun.
The engineers on the right have cut down trees to create Marsh instead of Forest. Working well.


But bizarrely, BA repairs the hedgerow and wall when it shows the replay to the MP opponent (so the opponent sees the explosion, but then sees repaired hedgerow/walls)
So the following German turn, the Hedgerow/Wall that were just demolished are back in position again.
But the marsh is still marsh. How weird is that?


Any ideas...?

[Amaris]

Does the wall need to be in the same square as the engineer? Or in the same square as the hedgerow? Or does where the wall is not matter too much?

The wall must be under the hedge. But it can be in the same tile or the tile aside...
I'll check that.

BA repairs the hedgerow and wall when it shows the replay to the MP opponent (so the opponent sees the explosion, but then sees repaired hedgerow/walls)
So the following German turn, the Hedgerow/Wall that were just demolished are back in position again.
But the marsh is still marsh. How weird is that?

Sounds like as my problem with complex carrier.
MP works strangely...

[GottaLove88s]

BA repairs the hedgerow and wall when it shows the replay to the MP opponent (so the opponent sees the explosion, but then sees repaired hedgerow/walls)
So the following German turn, the Hedgerow/Wall that were just demolished are back in position again.
But the marsh is still marsh. How weird is that?

Sounds like as my problem with complex carrier.
MP works strangely...

Hmmm... I was worried that, that might be the case...

But it doesn't seem to be as as simple as "you cannot code to change objects because the MP map will always put them back" because it will let us place and remove tank traps... So, there has to be a solution in there somewhere... I've posted something for Pip to see... If it's not obvious, maybe we should sleep on it?

You're sure right, BA MP does seem to work in mysterious ways...

[GottaLove88s]

Also I believe Enric has developed a mod where Rhino Shermans can remove hedgerow... But I'm not sure how he does it...?

[Amaris]

Also I believe Enric has developed a mod where Rhino Shermans can remove hedgerow... But I'm not sure how he does it...?

I looked at his code.
Very similar.

And I think I understand what the MP problem, or rather how the MP works.
Well I need to rewrite a lot of stuff.
But I hope that it works.

[GottaLove88s]

Also I believe Enric has developed a mod where Rhino Shermans can remove hedgerow... But I'm not sure how he does it...?

I looked at his code.
Very similar.

And I think I understand what the MP problem, or rather how the MP works.
Well I need to rewrite a lot of stuff.
But I hope that it works.

Your coding similarity would be the Great Minds thinking alike, lol...

Glad you've figured out, MP!
Sorry you have to re-write a lot of code.
Fingers crossed it works. If it does, it will be AWESOME!!

[GottaLove88s]

When... Not If...

I'm a Believer!

[jcb989]

Once again I am blown away by both the game's edit-ability and your guys skills to do it. Makes us real-live engineers jealous. lol.
Great work,

[GottaLove88s]

Salut Amaris,
If it's not too much trouble, please add "Burn" to remove all Dune Grass, High Corn or Tall Corn objects from the square that the engineer is in...
Same icon as the one to demolish hedgerow/walls...