Ahh very good questions my friend. Oil is the only black cloud on the horizin right now and i figure it will come back to bite me in the ass in 1942... ah well, like we say in Quebec you dont make omelets without breaking eggs...
The most important thing is that i will have enough for a 1941 offensive that should take me to Rostov and the gates of the Caucasus. My main russian effort in 41 will be in the south, i need to break out in the Caucasus to gett hose oilfields as fast as i can. If i can secure them in my 1942 offensive, the Russians will be cooked.
Speaking of German CV, the Graf Zeppelin will be christened next turn in Wilhemshaven! It will be magnificent to see the germans with a high see fleet of 2 BB, 4 subs, 1 DD and 1 CV!
Amerika in Flames---The War is over and Peace treaty signed!
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Turn 16: Mopping up in England
The mopping up of England's armed force started last turn, since the british are in full flight... 2 naval units destroyed in port last turn... I expect Panzer general to resist to the bitter end... I shold start embarking units in say 4-5 turns.
Units have started to be transferred to the east, we ened to prepare for Barbarossa...
The CV is now on the MAP!!!
Units have started to be transferred to the east, we ened to prepare for Barbarossa...
The CV is now on the MAP!!!
Plundered from the cellar of Churchill himself!
Seriously, this CV is going to see a lot of operating before i am doe with it... I need to move it as fast as psosible to intercept the MED fleet surely coming to the Brits aid... OR maybee Panzer General decided tnat he would block me from getting much needed oil?
Speaking of which, i wonder how i am going to fare once i am done burning so much of it... I am currently building a INF and MECH based army. No more planes or Armor...
Seriously, this CV is going to see a lot of operating before i am doe with it... I need to move it as fast as psosible to intercept the MED fleet surely coming to the Brits aid... OR maybee Panzer General decided tnat he would block me from getting much needed oil?
Speaking of which, i wonder how i am going to fare once i am done burning so much of it... I am currently building a INF and MECH based army. No more planes or Armor...
Mopping up in England continues
Birmingham fell last turn, as well as 2 units destroyed. Reinforcements landed in England and Aberdeen Garrison was reinforced. Graf zeppelin made is firstopen sea mission and stopped in Amsterdam for a refit and should be on official naval roster next turn...
As said earlier, our production is now 100% aimed at producing land unis for Barbarossa... 20 turns to go roughly, so we should have a reasonably decent offensive...
Sorry forgot the screen capture...
As said earlier, our production is now 100% aimed at producing land unis for Barbarossa... 20 turns to go roughly, so we should have a reasonably decent offensive...
Sorry forgot the screen capture...
Turn 18
Nothing special happened this turn. The Graf Zeppelin continued its sailing to join the HSF north of Scotland to engage whats left of the british home fleet.
Other than that, Liverpool, Leeds and Norwhich fell last turn, and we killed a corps and a garrison
In the Med, Panzergeneral seem intent on blocking me from taking over the Middle East oil. Well, i dont intend to do anything about it for now, i need to save oil. So he can have his field days, i have other plans to get to the allies... Only downside is that i wanted to evacutate those troops to use them i Barbarossa... Ahh well, you cant have everything right!
Other than that, Liverpool, Leeds and Norwhich fell last turn, and we killed a corps and a garrison
In the Med, Panzergeneral seem intent on blocking me from taking over the Middle East oil. Well, i dont intend to do anything about it for now, i need to save oil. So he can have his field days, i have other plans to get to the allies... Only downside is that i wanted to evacutate those troops to use them i Barbarossa... Ahh well, you cant have everything right!
August 1940, enar and over the English Channel
Calais, august 1940, 12 :30
The reich’s dictator was walking along the beaches, arms crossed in behind his back. He was looking on the other side of the Channel, at England. Behind him was his chief of staff, Von Manstein, and the master of the channel crossing, the good, old and reliable Von Rundstedt.
« So as i was saying my fuhrer, Guderian drove all the way thru Birmingham and he his still in contact with the retreating british army. » said an aide de camp, right by Hitler’s side. In the background, a myriad of generals and other officials were waiting for the trio to come back from the beaches and were overlooking Hitler casual walk along the nice summer breeze. A little farther inland, a JU-52 transport plane was waiting to bring the reichs military leadership to London, were Hitler could oversee military operations and most importantly adress the english populaiton. He seemed convinced that he could made a decent peace offer to the british and that they would accept it…In fact, Churchil himself in a speach not a day before the invasion had said that England would never surrender and that it would fight on from its imperial territories…It was even reported that the british government was re-based somewhere in canada…
The aide-de-camp continued his report in the background of Hitler’s walk : « (…) and the Graf Zeppelin was finaly launched at sea this week. It should go thru the Channel soon we might be lucky and fly over it later today », said the aide enthousiastically.
Hitler, lost in its reveries intent on world domination, finally came back to reality : «Herr generals », he said distantly, « we should now go to London and see Churchill’s house for ourselves shall we », he said turning his back to the sea and going toward land. The 2 generals and the aide-de-camp followed suit in its wake…
Sky over the channel, august 1940, 15 :30
The pilot flew low enough for the passengers to see the magnificent sight of the Graf Zellepin sailing thru the Channel. It was a magnificent ship. Only problem so far were the planes employed on its deck. It has ben decided by Goering and Raeder that the BF-109 was best suited for the job, but i twas a very difficult thing to adapt land-based planes to sea-based planes… And there was the problem of the BF-109 bombload to tackle… Several accidents had been reported already and 3 pilots were dead in crash landings. But Albert Speer had assured Hitler that Messerschmitt was working on a new prototype (a modification of the BF109). It would be called the BF-109-N.
For his part, Von Manstein had no interest in anything seagoing, and was busy working thru his paperwork. He was very preoccupied of a certain secret operation, under the leadership of Erich Von Paulus. Looking thru the reports, it didnt look good, Paulus was very worried and supply was going to be an issue not to be ignored… And then there was the issue of the British reaction to it and… He was clapped on the shoulder by Von Rundstedt, the architect of the very successeful british invasion. « Herr General », said Rundstedt, « We are just about to see the fruits of our hard labor ! » he said enthousiastically « Who would have imagined that we would be in a position to dictate this kind of situation to the western allies ! Our forefathers would be proud of us, we finally avenged 1918 ! ». He was in a good mood and Manstein was inclined to indulge with him on the pleasure of victory, since it was so sweet a fruit…
The reich’s dictator was walking along the beaches, arms crossed in behind his back. He was looking on the other side of the Channel, at England. Behind him was his chief of staff, Von Manstein, and the master of the channel crossing, the good, old and reliable Von Rundstedt.
« So as i was saying my fuhrer, Guderian drove all the way thru Birmingham and he his still in contact with the retreating british army. » said an aide de camp, right by Hitler’s side. In the background, a myriad of generals and other officials were waiting for the trio to come back from the beaches and were overlooking Hitler casual walk along the nice summer breeze. A little farther inland, a JU-52 transport plane was waiting to bring the reichs military leadership to London, were Hitler could oversee military operations and most importantly adress the english populaiton. He seemed convinced that he could made a decent peace offer to the british and that they would accept it…In fact, Churchil himself in a speach not a day before the invasion had said that England would never surrender and that it would fight on from its imperial territories…It was even reported that the british government was re-based somewhere in canada…
The aide-de-camp continued his report in the background of Hitler’s walk : « (…) and the Graf Zeppelin was finaly launched at sea this week. It should go thru the Channel soon we might be lucky and fly over it later today », said the aide enthousiastically.
Hitler, lost in its reveries intent on world domination, finally came back to reality : «Herr generals », he said distantly, « we should now go to London and see Churchill’s house for ourselves shall we », he said turning his back to the sea and going toward land. The 2 generals and the aide-de-camp followed suit in its wake…
Sky over the channel, august 1940, 15 :30
The pilot flew low enough for the passengers to see the magnificent sight of the Graf Zellepin sailing thru the Channel. It was a magnificent ship. Only problem so far were the planes employed on its deck. It has ben decided by Goering and Raeder that the BF-109 was best suited for the job, but i twas a very difficult thing to adapt land-based planes to sea-based planes… And there was the problem of the BF-109 bombload to tackle… Several accidents had been reported already and 3 pilots were dead in crash landings. But Albert Speer had assured Hitler that Messerschmitt was working on a new prototype (a modification of the BF109). It would be called the BF-109-N.
For his part, Von Manstein had no interest in anything seagoing, and was busy working thru his paperwork. He was very preoccupied of a certain secret operation, under the leadership of Erich Von Paulus. Looking thru the reports, it didnt look good, Paulus was very worried and supply was going to be an issue not to be ignored… And then there was the issue of the British reaction to it and… He was clapped on the shoulder by Von Rundstedt, the architect of the very successeful british invasion. « Herr General », said Rundstedt, « We are just about to see the fruits of our hard labor ! » he said enthousiastically « Who would have imagined that we would be in a position to dictate this kind of situation to the western allies ! Our forefathers would be proud of us, we finally avenged 1918 ! ». He was in a good mood and Manstein was inclined to indulge with him on the pleasure of victory, since it was so sweet a fruit…
Turn 20: September 1940, Amerika in Flames
Well, first of all, i would like to apologize for all those mislead readers about the absolute secrecy of my American landings...
We talked about it too much for me to give an exact timetable and i couldnt permit myself not to have surprise... SO i intentionnaly mislead eveyone to make you guys believe that i was still focused on the English operation... Were in fact, the first transport were on the sea the turn the Italians entered the war...
Nothing was prepared, meaning that i didnt even take the time to repair the tank and/or choose the units, i just made it with what came by at the time. Also, you guys will surely have something to say about my units landings, but time was of the essence, i could not take the chance of mud for the landings could not have taken place. SO i landed the units that where the fastest to make it to the coast...
Playing a little hotseat game with myself, i noticed that there is a big glitch in the game, or maybee it is intentionnal? But its simply not possible to place rieforcement in Fredericton (the US LL port) or train move anything there... So that is why ive landed in between Nova Scotia and the Prince Edward Island, since i was almost 100% sure that the english player could never think of garrisonning the city anyay. So next turn i will get my full supply situaiton (3 supply) with a full blown port! Also positionned units in place to land in and around Halifax so i should also be able to take the city in the next 2 turns, unless panzer Gen has some trick up his sleeve that i couldnt detect...
So i will let you see that screen capture, but the Amerika landing is composed of the following:
1 IT fighter
1 German TAC
1 German Tank
2 German corps
1 German Mech
1 Italian Corps
It should be obvious to everyone that its a complete overkill to take Halifax and even Ottawa, but i intend to do a lot more than that. I was to have a pre-emptive attack on the US AT THE SAME time as Barbarossa will start...
Landings as they were on 15th september... We should eb able to go and take Fredericton and then Strangle Halifax into surrendering. After that, we will take a much needed break from any offensive operations until Barbarossa, since we cannot spare anymore oil as it is...
On another note, the german CV is halfway across the Atlantic and should arrive too late to take any part in the precious next 2 turns to overtake Halifax. Bit it will be very useful if the british navy remnants decides to stir up some troubles or agaisnt the Americans... I should also make several INF corps do the Atlantic Crossing to bolster the american offensive.
Situation in England as of september 15th
We talked about it too much for me to give an exact timetable and i couldnt permit myself not to have surprise... SO i intentionnaly mislead eveyone to make you guys believe that i was still focused on the English operation... Were in fact, the first transport were on the sea the turn the Italians entered the war...
Nothing was prepared, meaning that i didnt even take the time to repair the tank and/or choose the units, i just made it with what came by at the time. Also, you guys will surely have something to say about my units landings, but time was of the essence, i could not take the chance of mud for the landings could not have taken place. SO i landed the units that where the fastest to make it to the coast...
Playing a little hotseat game with myself, i noticed that there is a big glitch in the game, or maybee it is intentionnal? But its simply not possible to place rieforcement in Fredericton (the US LL port) or train move anything there... So that is why ive landed in between Nova Scotia and the Prince Edward Island, since i was almost 100% sure that the english player could never think of garrisonning the city anyay. So next turn i will get my full supply situaiton (3 supply) with a full blown port! Also positionned units in place to land in and around Halifax so i should also be able to take the city in the next 2 turns, unless panzer Gen has some trick up his sleeve that i couldnt detect...
So i will let you see that screen capture, but the Amerika landing is composed of the following:
1 IT fighter
1 German TAC
1 German Tank
2 German corps
1 German Mech
1 Italian Corps
It should be obvious to everyone that its a complete overkill to take Halifax and even Ottawa, but i intend to do a lot more than that. I was to have a pre-emptive attack on the US AT THE SAME time as Barbarossa will start...
Landings as they were on 15th september... We should eb able to go and take Fredericton and then Strangle Halifax into surrendering. After that, we will take a much needed break from any offensive operations until Barbarossa, since we cannot spare anymore oil as it is...
On another note, the german CV is halfway across the Atlantic and should arrive too late to take any part in the precious next 2 turns to overtake Halifax. Bit it will be very useful if the british navy remnants decides to stir up some troubles or agaisnt the Americans... I should also make several INF corps do the Atlantic Crossing to bolster the american offensive.
Situation in England as of september 15th
Re: Turn 20: September 1940, Amerika in Flames
It's not a glitch but intentional. You'll need to DOW "Canada" in order to attack Frederiction. This will release the US LL destroyer but this won't be a big deal because you'll capture the port anyway and destroy the DD. This was the mechanism that we used in the expansion to release the LL destroyer. You can't rail in Canada anyway; because Ottawa is only supply level 3. Though in retrospec we probably should have added a garrison to Fredriction.supermax wrote:Playing a little hotseat game with myself, i noticed that there is a big glitch in the game, or maybee it is intentionnal? But its simply not possible to place rieforcement in Fredericton (the US LL port) or train move anything there... So that is why ive landed in between Nova Scotia and the Prince Edward Island, since i was almost 100% sure that the english player could never think of garrisonning the city anyay.
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Hehe America in Flames eh, played that brilliant WiF game where the Axis take on the Americas?
Your invasion profits from another factor that may have been unforseen when making the brilliant weather zones of GS. If Scandinavia is "severe winter" and same zone as Russia, then certainly almost all of Canada as well should be. I am sure Canadians on the forum can attest to the winter quality. Obviously in 9/10 games this part of the map does not come into play, but would have made this bold invasion even more risky!
Your invasion profits from another factor that may have been unforseen when making the brilliant weather zones of GS. If Scandinavia is "severe winter" and same zone as Russia, then certainly almost all of Canada as well should be. I am sure Canadians on the forum can attest to the winter quality. Obviously in 9/10 games this part of the map does not come into play, but would have made this bold invasion even more risky!
True that the weather aspect would have made it more risky, but then i would just have gone earlier and only with german troops, i could have been able to embark as early as may-june anyway...
But as a Canadian i can attest that it should be in the same weather zone as Russia.
Anyway this is going to be interesting to see how it unfolds. I have never landed in North America, not even agaisnt the computer.
I kinda do it to impress the gallery!
and just to show that with boldness anything can be done with Axis or Allies.
But as a Canadian i can attest that it should be in the same weather zone as Russia.
Anyway this is going to be interesting to see how it unfolds. I have never landed in North America, not even agaisnt the computer.
I kinda do it to impress the gallery!
and just to show that with boldness anything can be done with Axis or Allies.-
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The problem is that most of "Canada" is flagged as UK hexes and not Canadian hexes. This is done to prevent Britain from surrendering if they lose London. Ottawa is the second British capital. So by using the northern weather zone for Canada when we need to designate a hex row and hex column and say UK hexes north and west of this line would have northern weather. If we say all of UK should have northern weather then you will have the same weather in the British Isles as well.trulster wrote:Hehe America in Flames eh, played that brilliant WiF game where the Axis take on the Americas?
Your invasion profits from another factor that may have been unforseen when making the brilliant weather zones of GS. If Scandinavia is "severe winter" and same zone as Russia, then certainly almost all of Canada as well should be. I am sure Canadians on the forum can attest to the winter quality. Obviously in 9/10 games this part of the map does not come into play, but would have made this bold invasion even more risky!
If we update the code to include northern weather in Canada then we need to define where the line should go. Maybe part of USA should belong to northern weather as well? By doing this change we create a difference because bombers stationed here will only have half efficiency during severe winter against German subs in the northern Atlantic. We also need to flag Iceland and Greenland as part of the northern weather zone.
I think we can add this to our list of possible future updates.
Cape Tormentine, Nova Scotia, september 1940
The rumbling of german panzer was totally alien to this new world. The metal tracks were just making fresh trails on the soft sand, and the german boots were trampling this nice little quiet place. Inserted between Nova Scotia and Price Edwards Island, the chosen place for the Axis Landings (there was also one italian landings in New-Brunswick and one east of this landing in and around the city of Pugwash) went unnoposed. Surprise was TOTAL and complete. The canadian forces, only so recently having received the royal family and government (Churchill included) were in no state to defend the country. They had transferred their main army to England earlier in the year and it was destroyed there… Now there was only emptiness to receive the axis forces…
Von Paulus was overlooking the landing beaches from the Battleship Bismarck, and was inwardly happy. A naturally cautious man, he was appaled the first time he met Von Manstein, Hitler and Von Rundstedt over the maps of North America. But then at that time the trio had argued that the campaign in britain was going very well, and wasnt the entire british home fleet spending time on the bottom of the sea ? Paulus was sure the americans would intervene rapidly and destroy what little forces he had. But so far no reports coming from the spies on the frontiers or from the diplomats in Washington. The americans were staying put. They would pay for it later in 1941 !
Battleship Birmarck overlooking Cape Tormentine
Under the plan of attack, he was ordered to land his tanks corps in Tormentine and then drive as fast as possible to Fredericton to get a full supply port. Then the rest of the forces at his disposals would land in and around Halifax and take the port city. All convoys would then be stopped thru Canada. A perfect situation for the Axis. His job, from the fuehrer own words, was to delay any intervention from the western hemisphere in Europe as long as Germany was locked in a final death conflict with the Communists. If he could, (some reinforcements were planned later in 1941 to land in Canada), he was to take Washington and take the americans out of the war. This in itself, could also push the japanese into launching its own war with the USA, thus rendering them totally inhert and innofensive.
Plan of attack
He was taken out of his reverie by an aide-de-camp with things that required his immediate attention and went back inside the command post he had setup to direct the landings. It was going to be, his last toughts on the matter were, a very interesting adventure…
Tormentine suburbs on fire
Von Paulus was overlooking the landing beaches from the Battleship Bismarck, and was inwardly happy. A naturally cautious man, he was appaled the first time he met Von Manstein, Hitler and Von Rundstedt over the maps of North America. But then at that time the trio had argued that the campaign in britain was going very well, and wasnt the entire british home fleet spending time on the bottom of the sea ? Paulus was sure the americans would intervene rapidly and destroy what little forces he had. But so far no reports coming from the spies on the frontiers or from the diplomats in Washington. The americans were staying put. They would pay for it later in 1941 !
Battleship Birmarck overlooking Cape Tormentine
Under the plan of attack, he was ordered to land his tanks corps in Tormentine and then drive as fast as possible to Fredericton to get a full supply port. Then the rest of the forces at his disposals would land in and around Halifax and take the port city. All convoys would then be stopped thru Canada. A perfect situation for the Axis. His job, from the fuehrer own words, was to delay any intervention from the western hemisphere in Europe as long as Germany was locked in a final death conflict with the Communists. If he could, (some reinforcements were planned later in 1941 to land in Canada), he was to take Washington and take the americans out of the war. This in itself, could also push the japanese into launching its own war with the USA, thus rendering them totally inhert and innofensive.
Plan of attack
He was taken out of his reverie by an aide-de-camp with things that required his immediate attention and went back inside the command post he had setup to direct the landings. It was going to be, his last toughts on the matter were, a very interesting adventure…
Tormentine suburbs on fire