The Bug Thread (Read before posting bugs!)

Obsolete · Post by **Obsolete** » Sat Jul 16, 2011 3:14 pm

Alright, I'll keep my eye on it just in case I missed something else there.

I also noticed a unit surrendered today despite it could have retreated onto a river. Is that an undocumented feature? NO retreating into rivers or E-ZoC?

Rudankort · Post by **Rudankort** » Sat Jul 16, 2011 3:23 pm

Obsolete wrote:Alright, I'll keep my eye on it just in case I missed something else there.

I also noticed a unit surrendered today despite it could have retreated onto a river. Is that an undocumented feature? NO retreating into rivers or E-ZoC?

Maybe it was a major river? Units should be able to retreat to minor rivers just fine.

Obsolete · Post by **Obsolete** » Sun Jul 17, 2011 4:36 pm

Yes, I noticed lately that units can't retreat over a river. So that answeres that.

However, I have another puzzle. I thought if you kill half (or more) strength in a single salvo, that a unit will retreat if no entrenchement. And if it cant retreat it surrenders. However, I have a case where I attacked a surrounded AA gun, killed more than half strength, and it just sat there.

Is there a special rule with AAs or such?

Rudankort · Post by **Rudankort** » Sun Jul 17, 2011 5:18 pm

A unit retreats if all of its strength is either killed or suppressed. In your example it escaped with 1 point of strength (6 killed, 3 suppressed, 1 remained intact).

Kerensky · Post by **Kerensky** » Sun Jul 17, 2011 9:19 pm

Confirmed, I'll add that mass attack bug to page 1.

Razz1 · Post by **Razz1** » Sun Jul 17, 2011 9:54 pm

Wurfrahmen 40 is way too powerful. One attack against a tank and it is suppressed so much that anything can kill it.
I'm loosing KV-1's easily.

The price needs to be put back at 545

Kerensky · Post by **Kerensky** » Sun Jul 17, 2011 10:16 pm

With 7 hard attack? Compared to the 9 hard attack of a 150mm artillery piece?

Screenshots or it didnt happen!

And post it in a different thread please, this is not a bug report.

Obsolete · Post by **Obsolete** » Tue Jul 19, 2011 3:02 am

I can not move my selected Sturm into the forest hex. However, if I select the sturm above it that is on the river hex, I am able to move that one into the forest.

Seems to be wrong to me?

Razz1 · Post by **Razz1** » Tue Jul 19, 2011 3:08 am

You can not enter thick forest. Only a road will let you pass.

Your not connected to the road. The unit South is adjacent with out a road.

Obsolete · Post by **Obsolete** » Wed Jul 20, 2011 1:20 pm

Hmm, not so much a bug but an aesthetics issue I've mentioned a few versions ago; when one goes to the main-menu after playing a scenario for a bit, the main-menu music doesn't start, but what ever is currently playing keeps playing.

VPaulus · Post by **VPaulus** » Thu Jul 28, 2011 9:23 pm

I don't know if this was mention or not, but 10.5 cm leFH 18 is using "7.5_cm_FK_16_nA.png". Shouldn't be using a 105mm image instead?

Kerensky · Post by **Kerensky** » Thu Jul 28, 2011 10:22 pm

I think the problem stems from the fact there is no 'Axis Grey' coloring for the 75mm. I could be wrong about this, but that's my guess.

AgentX · Post by **AgentX** » Sun Jul 31, 2011 9:10 pm

Don't know if this is a bug or a design choice, but I'm unable to deploy Fallschirmjagers as air units in the US East Coast map of my campaign. I discarded their land transports, but it still made me deploy them as sea units. This is the only map I've run across that seems to do it.

Kerensky · Post by **Kerensky** » Sun Jul 31, 2011 9:24 pm

USA East Coast has no air transports available for the German Player.
So not a bug, but a design decision.

Personally, I think USA East Coast should have more transports available to the German player. 0 air and 1 train against 8 air 10 train for the Allies seems... odd. Trains makes sense, but not air.

Razz1 · Post by **Razz1** » Sun Jul 31, 2011 11:25 pm

Kerensky wrote:With 7 hard attack? Compared to the 9 hard attack of a 150mm artillery piece?

Screenshots or it didnt happen!

And post it in a different thread please, this is not a bug report.

The suppression needs to be reduced or the soft attack by two.

Kerensky · Post by **Kerensky** » Mon Aug 01, 2011 9:25 am

10.

AgentX · Post by **AgentX** » Mon Aug 01, 2011 6:35 pm

Kerensky, is that an artillery unit with a range +1 Hero that is giving it's half-track a range of 2? I've also noticed that a ground unit that has a +1 movement Hero gets that extra movement bonus with sea transports as well. Don't know if that was intended or a possible bug. Oh, and holy crap! Is that a 20 strength unit I see? You doing some more modifying? The 15 strength units weren't enough for you?

Kerensky · Post by **Kerensky** » Mon Aug 01, 2011 7:46 pm

That artillery unit has 2 +1 range heroes. Only a single +1 range hero does not cause the behavior you see because the half track shoots as 0+1 or 1 hex. The halftrack here is firing as 0+1+1.

Conscripts are 20s (15+5)

What the bug is: Calculating of combat odds.

The Russian infantry should not be able to shoot two hexes.

Heimdallr · Post by **Heimdallr** » Thu Aug 04, 2011 1:31 pm

After hours of playing final release I really miss to see the heroes benefits in stats screen. something like "2(+1)" or cummulative "3" but with different color to see that it was modified. The reason is that when I get hero +3 defense i don't know, if this is ground defense bonus or air ground bonus or whatever.

Steakenglisch · Post by **Steakenglisch** » Thu Aug 04, 2011 7:13 pm

A buddy told me when you play without supply the german recons can move across the map ... i couldnt believe that and tested it.

Startet Scen -> Ardennes -> choosed the 8 wheel recon and moved the max range ... than i could again move the max range and again ... and again
until i drove in an enemy unit ....

i think thats a bug