The Russian Campaign 1941 / The West Campaign 1940 (and other battles) - All Multiplayer

[KarisFraMauro]

Yeah I've been wondering if a screenshot would help my weird display issue. Although since I'm terrible at technology I'm not sure how too... Umm is it f12 or something? This could be an interesting experiment for me. Also I speculate it's got something to do with my having so many different files in my scenarios folder. Must have like 5 different versions of The Russian Campaign alone.

[Zekedia222]

The West Campaign 1940, Does anyone want to try it? Well, I think it is a very interesting campaign.

That would certainly be interesting.

[conboy]

Hay y'all...
Where is this The West Campaign 1940? I can't find it and would like to give it a shot.
BTW, if anybody is interested, I just put up a challenge for Road to Moscow v 4.2 -- I picked the Soviets.

conboy

[Zekedia222]

It is on the original post

[KarisFraMauro]

I see Oahu got added to the mix. Playing with Japan for a change could be fun.

[Brenmusik]

New version 3.0 "The Russian Campaign 1941" made by "nero156" available !!

Pokorovka(Kursk) is way to tough, why do the germans have duch a Tech superiority? there arty those Big ass guns are WAY to much, fighters are to many, idk the game i s just damn tough, im playing as the soviets and my oponet is making gains to quikly, i mean i dont want itto go Historical cause its multiplayer but damn man, it sucks playing as the soviets with germanys endless HUGE arty, fighter planes and those G*D DAMN Nashorns

I agree with most of what Rick says. I haven't met the Nashorns yet, because I'm not inclined to download 3.0. I have just spent close on 45 minutes trying to salvage a Russian turn and there are another 99 to go (you know who you are ) Where I disagree is 'not going historical' because this is not 'Grey versus Red' but supposed to be Germany versus Russia and while the players are allowed to upgrade their units, it won't be. I feel it would be better if the sides were upgraded via set reinforcements (at times determined by the designers). Also RPs could fluctuate, in an attempt to replicate seasonal and logistical difficulties - which I appreciate is not easy to do with OoB.

[KarisFraMauro]

Rick was actually complaining about a different map though. My response is the same, if anybody feels it's unbalanced I'm more than happy to switch sides. After all, if the game goes poorly no matter which team a person is on their problem isn't the map One thing I'll admit is that experience makes a huge difference. I DID get annihillated the first time I played The Russian Campaign.

[Rick402]

Rick was actually complaining about a different map though. My response is the same, if anybody feels it's unbalanced I'm more than happy to switch sides. After all, if the game goes poorly no matter which team a person is on their problem isn't the map One thing I'll admit is that experience makes a huge difference. I DID get annihillated the first time I played The Russian Campaign.

lets play the Newest Russian game, i gave up after the last turn cause you broke my defensive line and there was no fixing it, i thought there for a while i may be able to turn the tables but i messed up from the 1st turn with my airforce, so what do you say, about russian game, and i admit im not the best player, really only played aginst AI

[KarisFraMauro]

I hate to admit it but the AI completely recks me So, I'm more than confident you'll be able to do the same to me sooner or later. That last game was fun, AND close. So do you want to play The Russian Campaign 3.0 or Prokhova again? Any preferred sides? If you set up a private game with a password and let me know what the password is, I'll definitely join!

[Rick402]

I hate to admit it but the AI completely recks me So, I'm more than confident you'll be able to do the same to me sooner or later. That last game was fun, AND close. So do you want to play The Russian Campaign 3.0 or Prokhova again? Any preferred sides? If you set up a private game with a password and let me know what the password is, I'll definitely join!

going to bed now, will set it up tomorrow, didnt realize you messaged me tell late, was playing JT Serbia, picked up east prussia and france this past weekend, i have so many games and so little time to play. still trying to master GG WitE/West/Pacific adimarals edition, yes we can play russia map, ill be soviets again. you germans and will meet in moscow for the epic clash or wherever else you kick my ass. lol

[KarisFraMauro]

Excellent! Since I played Germany last time I think I should play as Russia though. Things are really complicated for them compared to Germany and there's some things I want to experiment with, if that's okay. And I relate to having too many games. Got my hands full with this alone, but I try and keep up with Hearthstone. And I'm really curious about Shadow Empire too. At least I just finished the excellent book on the battle of the Chosin Resevoir during the Korean War, On Desperate Ground. Someone in the forums recommended it to me so I'm indebted.

[Vindictus]

I am glad there is a thread on this campaign.

Regarding Russian campaign 3.0.

I feel the German navy in the Baltic is now way to overpowered, the russian too weak. I combined my German Navy and Airforce to completely crush my opponent and capture Leningrad in 16 rounds. There is a chokepoint at the city of Leningrad that makes russian re-inforcement north of the city difficult difficult, i feel it way too easy for the Germans to capture Leningrad now.

I feel the balance would be better if the Russians and Germans both has a small Baltic fleet of equal size, say a cruiser, destroyer and a couple gunboats. These ships will be non-core, and no Baltic ports for either side so once they are destroyed they are gone for good. And remove all mines in the Baltic. I feel this would go a long way to rebalancing the Finland front - early extra defence for the Russians in the first 15 rounds, extra offensive firepower for the Germans after 15 rounds.

But i feel there should be a larger expansion of naval forces for both sides in the Black Sea. There was actually a fairly extensive naval campaign in the black sea during WW2, and I think a decent naval campaign in the Black sea would be kind of fun,

Overall I love this map, it is easily the best map in the entire game, so thank very much to the Parriego and his play testers for making it available. I am playing 3.0 and up to round 22. The germans are totally dominant still, but now facing slightly stiffer resistance around Kharkov and Kursk as well at the approaches to Moscow.

Wondering is the Germans are still too overpowered, but will play on and come back to this thread to update

[KarisFraMauro]

Funny, people have been complaining to me that Russia is too tough... If you'd like I'd be happy to challenge you with me playing as Russia and seeing how things unfold. I do agree Germany is best in the north, but I have some strategies to try and negate that.

[Chema_cagi]

I feel the balance would be better if the Russians and Germans both has a small Baltic fleet of equal size, say a cruiser, destroyer and a couple gunboats. These ships will be non-core, and no Baltic ports for either side so once they are destroyed they are gone for good. And remove all mines in the Baltic. I feel this would go a long way to rebalancing the Finland front - early extra defence for the Russians in the first 15 rounds, extra offensive firepower for the Germans after 15 rounds.

I agree strongly with this idea

Wondering is the Germans are still too overpowered, but will play on and come back to this thread to update

But I have to disagree with this. The germans have to be overpowered along all of 1941 and 1942, they are on the offensive, and the russian army is both surprised and stalinistically purged. I would suggest the URSS to have more programmed east-edge reinforcements in 1942, but less RP, and/or Germany getting more RP in the first 30-40 turns.


I would suggest too that Germany have more partial RP rewards for more objectives (without decreasing the current big RPs for Leningrad, Moscow and Stalingrad). The current 3 big rewards are an invitation to weird 3-pronged strategies instead of a front oriented plan.

The current setting and RP balance of the scenario would be nice for a single player version, though

[KarisFraMauro]

I'm very curious about what changes have been implemented in the latest version, and how they'll play out. However I'm already playing so many games I think I have a brain tumour Ah for the good old days when I discovered gunboats cost zero command points and Russia still had a port at Leningrad...

[nero156]

Chema_cagi try version 3.1

[KarisFraMauro]

One thing that's been bugging me for a while is how disorganized all the different multiplayer scenarios by different people are, in terms of them being spread over countless different threads. In order to make things a little more coherent, shouldn't all these scenarios be listed in the "put your scenarios and campaigns here" thread? LIke with the download link. Anything to simply matters helps.

[Chema_cagi]

Chema_cagi try version 3.1

Thanks for your reply, but I would like to know what are the changes, please. The only one I have appreciated is a further nerf of the german RPs...that's a bad start from my point of view , and the scenario is large enough to not invite to blindly test it again.

[Vindictus]

But I have to disagree with this. The germans have to be overpowered along all of 1941 and 1942, they are on the offensive, and the russian army is both surprised and stalinistically purged. I would suggest the URSS to have more programmed east-edge reinforcements in 1942, but less RP, and/or Germany getting more RP in the first 30-40 turns.

I have not played out the scenario long enough to determine if the Germans are overpowered, I am just wondering. I am currently playing KarisFraMauro as Germans using version 3.0. Only 12 rounds in so still too hard to say I guess. The real test would be to have a full for/against playing both sides, but that would take 6 months at least

I agree that new versions should have a general overview of changes that have been made.

[KarisFraMauro]

Six months? I don't play that slow... No more than two months tops!