ECW Campaign 2017 Royalist Line of Communication

[Kelen2]

Whilst I'm happy to have another go at Snuggles in 35, if he does stay put and Warlord takes 38 & 37 that would mean Snuggles would be the defender with an 1150pt army, against my 1000pt army, both with 1 re-enforcement. Whilst I won't shy away from any battle, I would question my chance of success.

Anyone else have any views?

[awesum4]

Greetings Loyal Gentlemen and True,

First things first; I've tried several times to find the difference in forces between a flying column and a normal royalist army. At 1,000 points both of them get a maximum of 10 units of pike and shot, 6 normal, 2 veteran, 2 raw, and 2 short of muskets. There cannot be less than 10 units of cavaliers, dragoons, commanded shot and musketeers. So from now on his Majesty has commanded that all his forces move with utmost speed in all their endeavours. There is no point in marching slowly.

Our armies are mostly larger than the Rebels, we have 4 at 1200 to his 1, and must use this advantage to strike hard and fast and secure the Midlands before his northern armies can move south.

His Britannic Majesties suggested movements for this turn are;

Damatrois moves from 44 to 43 and then 42.
Brent moves from 26 to 24 then 44 (in case Iandavidwelshman should move that way. If either runs into the Welsh rabbit he will have reinforcement from the other.



Doyley50 moves from 32 to 34 then 41.
Kelen moves from 31 to 35 to 37. Again these two armies reinforce each other.

TGM moves from 27 to 9 then to 8. Depending how LDFM moves TGM should fight him with a larger army.

Lascar moves from 15 to 14 then to 7. He will probably meet Ianow on the border with 14.
Youngr moves from 28 to 10 then 13. He will either provide reinforcement to Lascar or end up fighting Ianow with reinforcement from Lascar, depending where Ianow and Danny move.

I will move from 21 to 17 then 18, will hopefully meet and beat Kerry the lost Irishman or possibly secure the entire divison V.

These moves are designed to take advantage of our larger armies, superior speed, and provide mutual support as much as possible.

King Charles wishes you all Godspeed and Victory over the rebel scum,

Andre Devereaux,

Duke of Cornwall

[awesum4]

Gavin,


my army of good Cornish Royalists do speed as a flying column from 21 to 17 and then to 18, hoping to catch the traitor Kerry the lost Irishman and his pack of slathering serpents as they slither aimlessly through the south.

Andre Devereaux,

Duke of Cornwall

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Gavin,


my army of good Cornish Royalists do speed as a flying column from 21 to 17 and then to 18, hoping to catch the traitor Kerry the lost Irishman and his pack of slathering serpents as they slither aimlessly through the south.

Andre Devereaux,

Duke of Cornwall

Locked in Devereaux Duke of Cornwall and His Majesties Loyal Lord of the South.

[Kelen2]

I haven't got anything to lose, as I only hold 1 county anyway), so I shall through caution to the winds as move as suggested by flying column from 31 to 35 then 37, (hoping to grab at least 1 extra county - and hoping I don't run into either Snuggles or Warlord, who will be much stronger than my small force!)

God save the King!

[youngr]

The Army of the North Midlands moves to Northamptonshire (10).

Can I move as a field army (not flying column) combining troops from Leicestershire (28) and Rutland (29)?

Duke of Rutland (Richard)

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The Army of the North Midlands moves to Northamptonshire (10).

Can I move as a field army (not flying column) combining troops from Leicestershire (28) and Rutland (29)?

Duke of Rutland (Richard)

Locked In Richard Duke of Rutland ...you have at present 1100 pts

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I haven't got anything to lose, as I only hold 1 county anyway), so I shall through caution to the winds as move as suggested by flying column from 31 to 35 then 37, (hoping to grab at least 1 extra county - and hoping I don't run into either Snuggles or Warlord, who will be much stronger than my small force!)

God save the King!

Locked In Kelen "The Sheriff" Duke of Nottinghamshire

[awesum4]

Gavin, I believe young lord Rutland is the largest landowner in an entirely owned division and has 1200 points of troops in his steadily advancing army

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Gavin, I believe young lord Rutland is the largest landowner in an entirely owned division and has 1200 points of troops in his steadily advancing army

I defer to your better judgement 1200 it is

[Doyley50]

Lord Doyley of Amounderness moves from 32 to 34 to 41, the fair county of Westmoreland,famous for its sheep and mint cake.

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Lord Doyley of Amounderness moves from 32 to 34 to 41, the fair county of Westmoreland,famous for its sheep and mint cake.

Locked in Lord Doyley of Amounderness and Lord Lieutenant of Westmoreland

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Effective immediately! New Flying Column Rule

Straight change to rule update 3.5.17 regarding flying columns. "Flying columns must now have twice as many cavalry as units with pike and no medium or heavy artillery."

[awesum4]

Gavin,

I must object strongly to the change to the rule on flying columns.

The parliamentary armies are much stronger on the battlefield than the Royalist as they get much more firepower with pike and shot units that are almost invulnerable to cavaliers (until they disrupt or cavaliers finally work their way behind their flanks). If the battlefield has a reasonable smattering of enclosed fields the Royalists really struggle to win. Royalist flying columns and normal armies will always have less firepower than Parliamentary armies, and in this period firepower is king.

The one advantage we have had is being able to move faster strategically with no sacrifice to our fighting ability, now you have gutted that. No sane commander will use a flying column anywhere near a rebel army. You have changed the campaign from one of maneuver to one of slogging.

With them having an extra army in London which gives Danny the advantage of a 1150 point army with no real chance of losing that, you have made this campaign unbalanced in favour of the rebels. It started out even, we out-maneuvered them in the first turn giving us a slight advantage and now you have negated any gains we have made.

If you are going to insist this new definition of Flying columns stays then I ask that we be allowed to redo those moves already submitted.

[Kelen2]

I've only done a quick test, but I think for a 1000pt force that enables me to get 4 P&S; If I run into anyone I'm screwed!

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I've only done a quick test, but I think for a 1000pt force that enables me to get 4 P&S; If I run into anyone I'm screwed!

Comments from the Parliamentarians are equally negative.... "Bad news for our side then. Our cavalry is useless, so to have any chance of winning we should really should only use flying columns where there is no danger of engagement! Royalist would be fools not to use flying columns all the time. Their strength is their cavalry."

I've played around with a 1000 pt force and can get 5 pike and 10 cavalry... however, I concede this is very very limited in support troops. Hence, due to the adverse reactions can we settle for 1 to 1.5 rounded down in favour of the infantry. Hence 7 pike would need 10 cavalry and since 8 cavalry is compulsory in 43-44 then it's not over the top dicey. what do you think?

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Gavin,

I must object strongly to the change to the rule on flying columns.

The parliamentary armies are much stronger on the battlefield than the Royalist as they get much more firepower with pike and shot units that are almost invulnerable to cavaliers (until they disrupt or cavaliers finally work their way behind their flanks). If the battlefield has a reasonable smattering of enclosed fields the Royalists really struggle to win. Royalist flying columns and normal armies will always have less firepower than Parliamentary armies, and in this period firepower is king.

The one advantage we have had is being able to move faster strategically with no sacrifice to our fighting ability, now you have gutted that. No sane commander will use a flying column anywhere near a rebel army. You have changed the campaign from one of maneuver to one of slogging.

With them having an extra army in London which gives Danny the advantage of a 1150 point army with no real chance of losing that, you have made this campaign unbalanced in favour of the rebels. It started out even, we out-maneuvered them in the first turn giving us a slight advantage and now you have negated any gains we have made.

If you are going to insist this new definition of Flying columns stays then I ask that we be allowed to redo those moves already submitted.

I would never insist on an unpopular rule change Awsum... changes are designed to fine tune the campaign not to favour a side. I have no invested interest in either side but to ensure everyone enjoys the experience.

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Proposed New Flying Column Rule

Change to rule update 3.5.17 regarding flying columns (version b). "Flying columns must now have 1.5 (rounded down in favour of the infantry) as many cavalry as units with pike and no medium or heavy artillery.

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How say you awesum? Kelen?

Snuggles = "1.5 seems better. Seeing as our cavalry is garbage, 2-1 looked debilitating. If we had identical army lists it wouldn't be a problem. I do agree that they should be a risk though, and I think it's a good change."

[youngr]

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Gavin, I believe young lord Rutland is the largest landowner in an entirely owned division and has 1200 points of troops in his steadily advancing army

I defer to your better judgement 1200 it is

Huzzah!