AAR: Supermax Vs Moriss (No moriss please)

[Blathergut]

That had seemed to me to be the weakness in the 'everything into France' idea. I hadn't seen anyone invade England until after they were done in France, but with nothing in England, it seemed possible to do, if done right. I don't see how it has slowed any German timetable down. It has cost casualties in France, but that should be offset by what you gain in PP I would think. Perhaps someone good with numbers could work that out.

[Peter Stauffenberg]

Morris has a naval unit in the Cardiff port and you captured Bristol. That should mean he will lose the naval unit there in port.

Since you've destroyed the French navy and airforce then you could decline the armistice offer. All French North African cities will have a garrison so it may take awhile to grab all the ports, but it's definitely possible. You only need Casablanca, Oran, Algiers and Tunis.

[supermax]

Morris has a naval unit in the Cardiff port and you captured Bristol. That should mean he will lose the naval unit there in port.

Since you've destroyed the French navy and airforce then you could decline the armistice offer. All French North African cities will have a garrison so it may take awhile to grab all the ports, but it's definitely possible. You only need Casablanca, Oran, Algiers and Tunis.

Wrong city your right.

Ok, so if i delay the armistice this means that the italians will encounter essentially empty ports?

[Peter Stauffenberg]

You can now focus on Liverpool. Once the city falls the British can't place any units anymore in UK. Remember to garrison the UK cities so you don't have partisans popping up there.

If you do the math and sum up the PP's lost in UK units and compare it to PP's lost in German units then the numbers for Morris must look horrible indeed. Soon Italy will join and you can use them to invade Tunisia and then move on to Algeria and Morocco to get Spain on your side.

What will you do with the British units stationed in Egypt? Morris is aggressive enough to let them storm Tobruk or even send them as transports to Italian coastal hexes hoping to knock Italy out of the war.

I have a feeling Morris is counting on preventing a 1941 German offensive against Russia. Then the Russians and US will combined be so strong so they can bring Germany down to its knee. So if you manage to launch a decent 1941 Barbarossa then Morris will really have to conjure up something to hold.

I can't imagine why Morris didn't evacuate the RN to Canada hoping to build them up later for a possible US/UK combined invasion of England in 1942. How can UK afford to build up a usable force now? Maybe the convoys will give him the income, but soon the northern convoy will go to Russia and the southern to USA.

This is a weird game, but very exciting to follow. It's good to see that it's possible to do Sealion and more in GS v2.0. It's hard to accomplish, but not impossible.

[Peter Stauffenberg]

Morris has a naval unit in the Cardiff port and you captured Bristol. That should mean he will lose the naval unit there in port.

Since you've destroyed the French navy and airforce then you could decline the armistice offer. All French North African cities will have a garrison so it may take awhile to grab all the ports, but it's definitely possible. You only need Casablanca, Oran, Algiers and Tunis.

Wrong city your right.

Ok, so if i delay the armistice this means that the italians will encounter essentially empty ports?

Yes, if he has sent the garrisons to France already. Morris is probably clever enough to abandon Paris in June to force you to answer yes or no to the armistice offer. He can't do it until June 1940, but after June he can prevent you from prolonging the war in France just to have a chance to land in all the French North African ports. So you better send the Italians to these ports as soon as possible. Tunis is probably the main port you can secure and maybe Sfax and Mareth too (those are not ports, but will have units spawn there since they are cities/fortresses).

If you send garrisons to the ports then Morris might use the UK units to land in Italy so beware.

[richardsd]

Morris doesn't care about anything British, other than killing/delaying the Axis.

In my game I took the UK in 1940 and destroyed the 8th Army - he doesn't care so long as it weakens/delays Barbarossa.

He will be very aggressive with Russia so that will be interesting to see!

[supermax]

Morris doesn't care about anything British, other than killing/delaying the Axis.

In my game I took the UK in 1940 and destroyed the 8th Army - he doesn't care so long as it weakens/delays Barbarossa.

He will be very aggressive with Russia so that will be interesting to see!

Yes it will be since i also intend to be overly agressive.

Normally it tends to go the german way in 41-42 if he does that...

It will be offense against offense.

[supermax]

You can now focus on Liverpool. Once the city falls the British can't place any units anymore in UK. Remember to garrison the UK cities so you don't have partisans popping up there.

If you do the math and sum up the PP's lost in UK units and compare it to PP's lost in German units then the numbers for Morris must look horrible indeed. Soon Italy will join and you can use them to invade Tunisia and then move on to Algeria and Morocco to get Spain on your side.

What will you do with the British units stationed in Egypt? Morris is aggressive enough to let them storm Tobruk or even send them as transports to Italian coastal hexes hoping to knock Italy out of the war.

I have a feeling Morris is counting on preventing a 1941 German offensive against Russia. Then the Russians and US will combined be so strong so they can bring Germany down to its knee. So if you manage to launch a decent 1941 Barbarossa then Morris will really have to conjure up something to hold.

I can't imagine why Morris didn't evacuate the RN to Canada hoping to build them up later for a possible US/UK combined invasion of England in 1942. How can UK afford to build up a usable force now? Maybe the convoys will give him the income, but soon the northern convoy will go to Russia and the southern to USA.

This is a weird game, but very exciting to follow. It's good to see that it's possible to do Sealion and more in GS v2.0. It's hard to accomplish, but not impossible.

I will let them be in Egypt. All MED operations will be handled almost exclusively by Italians. The germans arent going to get involved much. Whatever moriss does with the 8th army is inconsequential strategically since they will have no support and almost no air cover. He can only land and then get bogged down. I expect a strong naval outing from him in the first turns of Italian entry... Appart from the french ships in the MED, should i expect anything else?

The more i think about this, the more i feel that instead of doing a lightning campaign in North Africa that could cost me dearly, i will concentrate on landing in Tunis and try Algier with a GAR. Then i will slowly crawl my way to Casablanca - with italians only-. The germans will concentrate on taking over Denmark and Norway in 1940, then move all-out research and land production. Oh i might try the sneaky german transport, but i am not optimistic on that scheme.

On research i expect lots of tanks on Moriss side, so i will change the research focus to anti-tank and tank destroyer.

Once we get to winter 41-42, i will drastically change the axis focus toward a more defensive stance since my oil is going to be low and i wont want to go to low on the manpower. 42-43 will see russian offensive and german counter-strokes, while i will try to defeat the first 1942 allied invasion. If i can stem 1943 pretty much unscated, the war will be won.

[rkr1958]

Max, nice job on Sea Lion. I got a picture of the invasion from one of your combat photographers, which I thought I'd share.

[Crazygunner1]

hahahaha lol

[supermax]

Hahahaha

Good one Ronnie.

So, now lets keep the kraken on the right track for russia!!!

[richardsd]

Morris was aggressive in the Med with the Brits, just like his game against Plaid, but I landed behind him and cut his supply - end of 8th Army.

This doesn't need the Germans either, but he may not fall for it again!

In Russia you should expect to see relentless attack, trying to just wear you down so you can't oppose a US invasion of France - I doubt he will go for Britain at all. He is probably happier to strand your troops there.

[zechi]

I understand the basic idea behind Morris strategy, but from my point of view he does not execute it very well in this game. There is no reason to play reckless and careless with the British, especially not with the RN. Why does he seem to sacrifice units without any reason at all? This makes no sense and seems to be bad play rather then any reasonable strategy.

All these British naval units lost unnecessarily will be missing when he tries to get a foothold in Europe again. Supermax could even go for an Axis naval strategy. Bring Spain on the side of the Axis or occupy it and then an offensive in North Africa to capture Port Said. With the combined naval forces of Italy and Germany he will at least have naval parity in the Atlantic and could stop any invasion from the west until 1944 at least.

Even if Morris plays better with the Soviets, he will find it very hard to capture all three Axis capitals before May 1945.

[gchristie]

Max,

Well played so far. This game has the potential to be as interesting as your North Amercian gambit against Panzer General. Keep it up and thanks for yet another entertaining AAR.

Regards.

[supermax]

Morris was aggressive in the Med with the Brits, just like his game against Plaid, but I landed behind him and cut his supply - end of 8th Army.

This doesn't need the Germans either, but he may not fall for it again!

In Russia you should expect to see relentless attack, trying to just wear you down so you can't oppose a US invasion of France - I doubt he will go for Britain at all. He is probably happier to strand your troops there.

I will be cautious in the med as moriss will come to me... Totally without aircover and all. Only action will be to take north african french ports before surrender.

In russia, i think you are right, he will be relentlessly attacking... Bt that does not matter since i am normally always the one looking for the other guy's army... Now he will come to me. Offensive operations in russia 41-42 are very dangerous for the soviets, as Moriss will get to realize.

As for western defense, well, i think again you are right. If he's expanded that much britis power and seemngly didnt invest in research, he wont even be trying to get england back. So minimal garrison there and ill wait for him in france.

[Plaid]

As far as I know, if you conquer some French lands and then accept the armistice, all conquered lands still become neutral "vichy".
Just in case you want to accept it.

[mamahuhu]

I understand the basic idea behind Morris strategy, but from my point of view he does not execute it very well in this game. There is no reason to play reckless and careless with the British, especially not with the RN. Why does he seem to sacrifice units without any reason at all? This makes no sense and seems to be bad play rather then any reasonable strategy.

All these British naval units lost unnecessarily will be missing when he tries to get a foothold in Europe again. Supermax could even go for an Axis naval strategy. Bring Spain on the side of the Axis or occupy it and then an offensive in North Africa to capture Port Said. With the combined naval forces of Italy and Germany he will at least have naval parity in the Atlantic and could stop any invasion from the west until 1944 at least.

Even if Morris plays better with the Soviets, he will find it very hard to capture all three Axis capitals before May 1945.

You are a very clever strategy guru
I believe you can be the perfect beat Morris!
Why do not you play with Morris?
Let us learn about your ability to command!

[supermax]

Max,

Well played so far. This game has the potential to be as interesting as your North Amercian gambit against Panzer General. Keep it up and thanks for yet another entertaining AAR.

Regards.

Thanks for the positive comment.

I agree with you it has the potential to be a great game... But Moriss is not panzer general. He is very agressive so i'll have to talk to myself really often to make sure i dont get overly agressive and too bold as henwill make me pay fo it...

At this point north america and 42 russia ae still possible.

If i continue to beat off RN navy ships, why not?

[gchristie]

Just don't forget to keep a garrison in Rome

[supermax]

Just don't forget to keep a garrison in Rome

Hhaha i knew that one was coming!

I will, i promess