Performance Issue: Massive slow down/hanging.

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Re: Performance Issue: Massive slow down/hanging.

Post by VPaulus »

MagicAndre1981 wrote:Use the 4GB patch to enable 4GB memory for the app on 64Bit Windows:

http://ntcore.com/4gb_patch.php

Patch the PanzerCorps.exe and try again. If you still have slowdowns, run PanzerCorps.exe with /nocache parameter (create a shortcut and add it there)
It won't help in this situation as the issue is not related with memory.
And to be honest it never helped, as I have tried it before we had the /nocache switch. The gains were always marginal.

Please try my suggestion and those who have both versions check with the non-Steam version like Rundankort asked.
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Re: Performance Issue: Massive slow down/hanging.

Post by MagicAndre1981 »

It WILL help. On large maps/mods the game has to load a load of data and VM fragmentation happens. The users should run VMMap and select the panzercorps.exe and post pictures here.

I had this in the past and activating the LARGEADDRESSAWARE flag with this patcher fixes the issues.
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Re: Performance Issue: Massive slow down/hanging.

Post by Lunex »

MagicAndre1981 wrote:Use the 4GB patch to enable 4GB memory for the app on 64Bit Windows:

http://ntcore.com/4gb_patch.php

Patch the PanzerCorps.exe and try again. If you still have slowdowns, run PanzerCorps.exe with /nocache parameter (create a shortcut and add it there)
I think we ruled out that the PC.exe uses all available 32Bit memory, already. The executable seems not to exceed about 500mb of ram.
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Re: Performance Issue: Massive slow down/hanging.

Post by VPaulus »

MagicAndre1981 wrote:It WILL help. On large maps/mods the game has to load a load of data and VM fragmentation happens. The users should run VMMap and select the panzercorps.exe and post pictures here.

I had this in the past and activating the LARGEADDRESSAWARE flag with this patcher fixes the issues.
Again, it's not related with this issue. This is a 1.25 related issue, not a Panzer Corps one.
If you want to talk about the LARGEADDRESSAWARE flag please open another thread.
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Re: Performance Issue: Massive slow down/hanging.

Post by Hurinowski »

Good morning!

Maybe this contributes to solve this issue.
I have installed Soviet Corps via Steam on feb 18th.
Played it and everything went as fast and nice as expected.
Last week i had no occasion to play.
On Sat 5th of march i started the romania map of soviet corps after not playing panzer corps for one week.
Suddenly i experienced the same issues as described in this thread.
My read is that something has happened during this week and a steam update is the first thing that came to my mind.

Cheers Huri
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Re: Performance Issue: Massive slow down/hanging.

Post by Tyrrell018 »

Win 7 64bit, i5, 16 GB RAM.
Everything was fine when the game automatically updated to 1.25 via Steam. Didn't purchase Soviet Corps yet. No mods.
At march 3rd, I got notification that major NVIDIA driver update is available. This issue emerged on the same day, after update was installed.
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Re: Performance Issue: Massive slow down/hanging.

Post by Razz1 »

I tried the regular version.

It works fine. I saved a couple of times then checked the size of the files and they look good.

I only played the first scenario. I will play some more to see what happens.
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Re: Performance Issue: Massive slow down/hanging.

Post by Akkula »

Guys. A silly question: Do you run the game through Steam?.
I am asking this because I have the Steam version (1.25) BUT I run the game directly from panzercorps.exe, without even start Steam. I have no issues at all.
Did someone suffering these issues tried to not to run Steam and use panzercorps.exe directly instead?.

Best regards.
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Re: Performance Issue: Massive slow down/hanging.

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Akkula wrote:Guys. A silly question: Do you run the game through Steam?.
I am asking this because I have the Steam version (1.25) BUT I run the game directly from panzercorps.exe, without even start Steam. I have no issues at all.
Did someone suffering these issues tried to not to run Steam and use panzercorps.exe directly instead?.

Best regards.
Akkula.
I still get the slowdown running the game outside of Steam, though Steam is still running. I'll try it again after exiting Steam.

EDIT: Interestingly, I can't load saved games if Steam isn't running. They aren't saved in the cloud, but rather in My Documents, so I'm a bit puzzled.
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Re: Performance Issue: Massive slow down/hanging.

Post by hummel5 »

Kolaris wrote:
Akkula wrote:Guys. A silly question: Do you run the game through Steam?.
I am asking this because I have the Steam version (1.25) BUT I run the game directly from panzercorps.exe, without even start Steam. I have no issues at all.
Did someone suffering these issues tried to not to run Steam and use panzercorps.exe directly instead?.

Best regards.
Akkula.
I still get the slowdown running the game outside of Steam, though Steam is still running. I'll try it again after exiting Steam.

EDIT: Interestingly, I can't load saved games if Steam isn't running. They aren't saved in the cloud, but rather in My Documents, so I'm a bit puzzled.
None of the DLC campaigns and their savegames will work if Steam is not running.

I'm having the same problem with massive slowdowns but when I turned off Steam I was able to finish a mission in the vanilla campaign without it happening.
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Re: Performance Issue: Massive slow down/hanging.

Post by VPaulus »

Do you all have Nvidia cards?
It seems there's a lot if issues with the beta 364.47...
http://www.destructoid.com/don-t-instal ... 7362.phtml
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Re: Performance Issue: Massive slow down/hanging.

Post by Kolaris »

I have an Nvidia card but I'm still back on 361.75 (27/1/16)
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Re: Performance Issue: Massive slow down/hanging.

Post by HalfLifeExpert »

VPaulus wrote:Do you all have Nvidia cards?
It seems there's a lot if issues with the beta 364.47...
http://www.destructoid.com/don-t-instal ... 7362.phtml


Issues with the driver aside, that cannot be the culprit of this PzC issue, as those drivers were only released yesterday
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Re: Performance Issue: Massive slow down/hanging.

Post by smokeybear »

VPaulus wrote:Do you all have Nvidia cards?
It seems there's a lot if issues with the beta 364.47...
http://www.destructoid.com/don-t-instal ... 7362.phtml
No:-

Graphics Card Manufacturer - Built by AMD
Graphics Chipset - AMD Radeon (TM) R9 200 Series
Device ID - 6811
Vendor ID - 1002
SubSystem ID - 0B04
SubSystem Vendor ID - 1002
Revision ID - 00
Bus Type - PCI Express 3.0
Current Bus Settings - PCI Express 3.0 x16
BIOS Version - 015.041.000.000
BIOS Part Number - 113-C6300500-102
BIOS Date - 2013/11/26 11:34
Memory Size - 2048 MB
Memory Type - GDDR5
Memory Clock - 1400 MHz
Core Clock - 925 MHz
Total Memory Bandwidth - 179 GByte/s
2D Driver File Path - /REGISTRY/MACHINE/SYSTEM/ControlSet001/Control/Class/{4d36e968-e325-11ce-bfc1-08002be10318}/0000
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Re: Performance Issue: Massive slow down/hanging.

Post by Lunex »

VPaulus wrote:Do you all have Nvidia cards?
It seems there's a lot if issues with the beta 364.47...
http://www.destructoid.com/don-t-instal ... 7362.phtml
I am on Nvidia but I really cannot imagine that driver problems with:
(...)Blue screens, failing to boot up Windows, restart loops, losing sound, graphical artifacting and even burned out cards (...)
cause issues with DirectDraw 2D performance in PC...

regards
Lunex
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Re: Performance Issue: Massive slow down/hanging.

Post by smokeybear »

Btw the /nocache fix as described (I did it as VPaulus outlined in earlier posts) has not worked for me, two turns at most and a gradual slowing down to a crawl and lagging screens etc.

I am not getting through the second turn before I have to save and quit.
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Re: Performance Issue: Massive slow down/hanging.

Post by ThvN »

Hi guys, quick post before I have to leave: I have both the Steam and regular versions on the same PC/hard drive which I can play separately. (PC: i5, GTX970, Win7 Ultimate)

Spend a few hours last night playing both, and the Steam version does start to lag & stutter after a while.

Regular version works fine, even after a few hours, just the occasional brief stutter when a new animation is played for the first time (sometimes with Windows wait cursor showing up). But the Steam version does slow down gradually, starts getting laggy/stutters, although it never crashes.

Most noticable is the slight delay when trying to scroll, especially when trying to scroll with an airplane selected, the movement path overlay seems to induce a lot of lag. I can't really see any significant differences in CPU/memory use between the two, although scrolling will briefly spike one of my cores, on both versions. This means one core will go 50-100% very briefly, taking PzC up to 20-25% CPU use, but it is just a brief spike. Memory usage will slowly creep up from 650Mb to nearly 1Gb on both versions after a few hours.

I could play AC for quite a while before things slowed down, but GC'39 seemed to slow down much quicker? I cannot be sure until I've played more, but I have the feeling that the introduction of new unit graphics/animations determines the rate of slowdown; I noticed this during Italian Offensive when it seems to slow down quickly when a lot of new units/animations (airplanes/ships) are added.

I have to leave now for busy day but will check back later; if I can help out just let me know.
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Re: Performance Issue: Massive slow down/hanging.

Post by Stormbringer »

and ? I must play without mods ? i must desinstall PzC and play another game ?
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Re: Performance Issue: Massive slow down/hanging.

Post by VPaulus »

Thanks ThvN

I too have tested and I come to the same conclusion regarding the Steam version. Even the buttons start to lag...
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Re: Performance Issue: Massive slow down/hanging.

Post by Collieafc »

Akkula wrote:Guys. A silly question: Do you run the game through Steam?.
I am asking this because I have the Steam version (1.25) BUT I run the game directly from panzercorps.exe, without even start Steam. I have no issues at all.
Did someone suffering these issues tried to not to run Steam and use panzercorps.exe directly instead?.

Best regards.
Akkula.
I can confirm this workadround worked for me too - I tried going straight ffrom the launcher and was able to finish off Stalingrad, Kursk and Moscow 43 with no lag (The first 1/2 of Stalingrad was with the STeam launcher which was doing more slowdowns). I also have an nVidia card but its an old driver

Done some more tests, and it is safe to say the issue stems from Steam. I tried launching from Steam BUT disconnecting myself entirely from the internet so Steam had no connection, but this didnt solve the issue, so whatever is causing it isnt network/internet related.

I would also agree with the statements of even the buttons getting laggy - but the game never crashes, it just gets slower and slower and slower - but like mentioned before, you dont even have to do anything in game. Leave it for 20-30 mins and it will slow by itself when launched from Steam.
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