Mark50 wrote:I was only referring to the P.11(having seen the P.24 on your list). Be that as it may, but it was still present in larger numbers than many of the rest and should be there imo. How much longer than the P.11 was the P.24 kept in service btw?
I checked my sources and it appears that both models were withdrawn at the same time at the end of 1941 and relegated to training role. I will consider adding the P.11 to the list.
Oh, do tell me the source for that armada of Hs 129 and Ju 87! I was under the impression that there were tens, not hundreds.
It is to be noted that both Hs 129 and Ju 87 were not sold by Germany to Romania, but lend. They were delivered directly at the front line by Luftflotte 4, which was also responsible for repairs and replacements. [source: Third Axis Fourth Ally, Mark Axworthy]
The source for numbers used is Rumanian Air Force, The Prime Decade, 1938-1947, Denes Bernad
I was referring to the italian AB 41, not the SdKfz(even though they were few too). Btw, why not use the C.K.D. Praha R-1 as a recon unit? I know that as a tankette(corresponding to some polish and italian units for example) it should be in the tanks category in PzC, but in the Romanian army it had a recon role so it would be sorta cool if it had recon abilities imo.
The first four AB which appear to be SdKfz 222 have been received in October 1942. Between October 1943 and August 1944 Germany delivered more SdKfz 222 and Autoblinda 41 left behind by Italians. Number is unknow. [source: Trupele blindate din Amata Romana, 1919-1947, Cornel Scafes, Horia Serbanescu, Ioan Scafes]
That`s not what I`ve asked though. My question was: how many of these versions will deserve different stats from one another in a PzC environment?
All of theme. I have already completed the stats for IARs so here they are:
# ID Short Name Class Cost Max Ammo Max Fuel Movement Spotting Range Initiative Soft Attack Hard Attack Air Attack Naval Attack Ground Defense Air Defense Close Defense Target Type Flag Icon Available From Available Till Type of Movement Rate Of Fire Max Strength Full Name Add Traits Remove Traits Series Multipurpose
IAR-80 7 305 8 50 13 2 0 4 1 1 11 1 19 15 0 2 14 15.2.1941 1.1.1944 5 IAR
IAR-80A 7 335 8 48 13 2 0 5 1 1 12 1 19 16 0 2 14 1.6.1941 1.1.1946 5 IAR
IAR-80B 7 360 8 48 13 2 0 6 1 1 13 1 19 16 0 2 14 1.6.1942 1.1.1946 5 IAR
IAR-80C 7 385 7 48 13 2 0 6 1 1 15 1 19 16 0 2 14 1.12.1942 1.1.1946 5 IAR
IAR-81C 7 395 8 48 13 2 0 7 1 1 14 1 19 17 0 2 14 1.6.1943 1.1.1946 5 IAR
Bf 109E 7 410 8 41 13 2 0 7 1 1 14 1 19 18 0 2 14 1.4.1940 1.1.1946 5 Messerschmitt Bf 109 E Messer
Bf 109G 7 478 6 62 14 2 0 10 1 1 14 1 20 20 0 2 14 1.3.1943 1.1.1946 5 Messerschmitt Bf 109 G Messer
IAR-81 8 324 6 46 13 2 0 4 4 4 10 2 19 16 0 2 14 1.6.1941 1.1.1946 5
No, not the best standards as in the whole ww2 context. I meant better standards than the ones with which you start in 1941. They can still be bellow other infantry units of other countries, but would still be better to use against those 1943 versions than the ones you have at the start.
I will consider adding a 43 version but as you suggested, not with a big boost in stats.
I wasn`t there personally so I can`t make such statements myself.
That's a good one !
I based mine on some historians who appreciated its standards and battlefield results as being above those of regular infantry units.
Then please share those sources. Can you give an example of such battlefield result where the Guard Division performed better than the rest of the units? I just reviewed the operation of Odessa and while indeed the unit performed well and was decorated, other regular divisions performed just as well.
