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VPaulus wrote:It makes sense.
Well, I guess, that I won't buy Diablo III, then.
Don't worry. I'll play enough Diablo III for you, me, and every single other person on these forums. :D
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Kerensky wrote:Don't worry. I'll play enough Diablo III for you, me, and every single other person on these forums. :D
I don't know why, but I just knew you were going to say that. :lol:
Don't worry I'll play enough Skyrim for you and me. :lol:
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VPaulus wrote:Don't worry I'll play enough Skyrim for you and me. :lol:
Deal. :)
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Kerensky wrote:Considering the absolute amazingness of Master Of Orion 2... I can't believe what happened to Master of Orion 3. Not even mods could fix that disaster.
Was so heart broken by Moo3. We still have a yearly Moo2 bash.....
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Kerensky wrote:
Ground Control was pretty neat, and very Mechcommander-esque. I much prefer that style of RTS. Instead of just massing gigantic armies and spamming them into combat until your enemy is overwhelmed, I prefer the more 'squad' orientated game. You start with your small, but elite forces, you can't really get MORE of them, you have to work with what you have.
Have you played Company of Heroes, because it is this to a tee but set in World War II. I find it a really difficult game, its not about mass of troops since you are limited to a reasonable cap. The likes of a Panther tank takes up a considerable amount of "manpower" meaning you will be short on other fronts. The MG42 unit is one of my favourites and I love it when it "opens up", get all giddy when I set it up on a 2 floor building ha!
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VPaulus wrote:Don't worry I'll play enough Skyrim for you and me. :lol:
You and a bunch of others!
Just check Steam Stats:
http://store.steampowered.com/stats/
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Woah, impressive stats. It's more than twice the number of players than the FPS Juggernaut that benefited from tons of advertisement ... It's really cool to see a RPG that manages to stay relatively honest and uncompromisingly faithful to its "sandbox" genre (in addition to all the obvious mainstream appeal of the stunning AAA production values) scoring that high on the charts. At least that's a franchise they do not ruin :twisted:

Like it or hate it compared to its predecessors, I find it pleasing nonetheless that Civ V manages to stay high on this list despite being 1 year old. For all the 2K games executives justifying their choice to reboot XCOM as a FPS because turn based strategy is a thing of the past.
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impar wrote:
VPaulus wrote:Don't worry I'll play enough Skyrim for you and me. :lol:
You and a bunch of others!
Just check Steam Stats:
http://store.steampowered.com/stats/
Yes, I saw those statistics 2 days ago. It has been consistent in the last couple of days.
And they beat CoD. :P
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Do note that those are PC numbers, not consoles. MW3 will beat Skyrim if all platforms are considered.
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impar wrote:Do note that those are PC numbers, not consoles. MW3 will beat Skyrim if all platforms are considered.
I know. Steam is PC. :wink:
Consoles. Those are a "special" crowd. They need special accessibility aids to play their games. They don't count. :twisted:
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Skyrim is available on all platforms though, and received glowing reviews from console critics too. It's true that the targeted demographics are not the same, and that it is likely that the figures will be more in favor of MW3. However, will it reverse the 2-1 advantage as it is on PC ?

Plus, there is a good "vibe" around Skyrim too, looking at both professional and player reviews. MW3 is certainly a good game (I don't know, the last FPS I have played was Wolfenstein, the first game, not the remake ;p ), but it seems to generate a range of reviews between "a bit disappointing" and "a job well done". For Skyrim it is almost universal excitement and enthusiasm. I know a few players in my entourage who are reading and listening to the "buzz" and are ready to see what it's all about. The game could make a lot of converts (non RPG gamers) with all the good press.
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kjeld111 wrote: However, will it reverse the 2-1 advantage as it is on PC ?
Oh, yes!
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Well, I guess, that I won't buy Diablo III, then.
Actually, you won't get to play Diablo III for quite some time. I don't know if anyone else noticed, but about 3 years after Blizzard released WoW, they turned from developing good games to developing revenue. And I'm not talking about the normal "great new game = great revenue", I'm talking about marketing strategy.

Very little work was done developing the game (yes, expansions were released but with little new concept or content) while the focus shifted to marketing. Merchandising of books, comics, t-shirts, figurines, game items, etc. seems to have drawn all of their development efforts. And I don't mean to belittle their efforts. The person in Blizzard who thought of the real-money market house for D3 should receive a summer home in the Hamptons as a bonus for that contribution to their money-making efforts. Their marketing team is doing their job well, but I think it's at a cost to the game play.

And that leads to the D3 release. I'm willing to bet that D3 has been in the can and ready for release for almost a year now, but the marketing team has once again entered the arena with their two cents. WoW is bleeding subscribers. I think some articles are saying they have lost 1/3 of their patronage. And Blizzard still wants the revenue for their final expansion they want to release for WoW. You don't have to be a marketing genius to figure this one out.

You have lost 1/3 of your subscribers. You desperately want the remaining 2/3 to buy your last expansion. But when you release D3, you will probably lose another 1/3, maybe more. So common sense tells you to delay the D3 release until after you have released your last WoW expansion. Blizzard gets as much revenue as possible from the last WoW expansion, and then if everyone flocks to D3, so be it.

My fear is that this will become an industry trend. Less focus on game developing and more focus on the marketing. Don't think that I'm right? Look at WoW's next, and probably last, expansion idea... a panda. I guarantee you the marketing team had a lot of input on that idea. :cry:
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macattack wrote: Look at WoW's next, and probably last, expansion idea... a panda. I guarantee you the marketing team had a lot of input on that idea. :cry:
Well, it's no ordinary Panda.
It's Kung-Fu Panda. :twisted:
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Regarding MW3 sales:
Modern Warfare 3 hits 5-day record of $775 million
Of course, this also means new records set for online play. On Xbox Live, 3.3 million unique players logged in on one day, topping the previous record of 2.6 million from Black Ops.
Regarding MWO:
MechWarrior Online to use CryEngine 3
"It is definitely the best choice for us," Piranha Games president Russ Bullock said in a press release. "Both the character animation pipeline with the procedurally and physics based animations and the destruction system fit our goals perfectly."
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*clears throat*

http://uk.xbox360.ign.com/articles/121/1212629p1.html
Bethesda announced today that over 3.5 million copies of Skyrim were sold during the game's first two days in stores. The company is expecting the game to earn over $450 million in worldwide sales across all platforms.
Not MW3 numbers sure, but not bad either :)
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The Draconis Combine unveils new frontline BattleMech
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Luthien, 2754: With production to begin shortly, Luthien Armor Works will commence construction of the first in a long line of 60 tonne DRG-1N Dragon BattleMechs for the Draconis Combine. Described as a long-range focussed ‘Mech capable of handling threats at all ranges, the Dragon has a ground speed of 86.4 km/h via a Vlar 300 engine, ten tonnes of Starshield armour, a Telos DecaCluster LRM-10, Imperator-A Autocannon/5, and two Victory 23R Medium Lasers.
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Post by VPaulus »

An indie Mech combat FPS:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nJvYC8Hc9-k
http://www.hawkengame.com/

And this Dungeon Master remake, Legend of Grimrock, is looking more and more gorgeous:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ep97ba_uWXM
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thank you for allowing links to non slitherine titles in your forums, thats really generous! the one to xenonauts made my day, I had no idea about this project! it´s no wonder so many tried and keep trying to revive the 2 early xcom games - my all times favorites.
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