Sealion 41! Barbarossa 42? - GS 2.00.11 - WAR IS OVER!
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Crazygunner1
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Turn 46 - Preparations for Operation Husky finished! SUB action in the Atlantic!
Not much happened this turn. I prepared my forces in Libya for the landing on Sicily and next turn they could start. I also bought a third Air lab for the British and the US. The Soviets began producing four ARM. Next turn I will get Anti-Tank level 2 and then buy a lot of MECH.
In the Atlantic the Axis SUB attack a convoy and the RN protects a really fat convoy reaching soon Britain:
I also sent the badly damaged US CV to Basra and the US transports are also on the way to the Med.
Not much happened this turn. I prepared my forces in Libya for the landing on Sicily and next turn they could start. I also bought a third Air lab for the British and the US. The Soviets began producing four ARM. Next turn I will get Anti-Tank level 2 and then buy a lot of MECH.
In the Atlantic the Axis SUB attack a convoy and the RN protects a really fat convoy reaching soon Britain:
I also sent the badly damaged US CV to Basra and the US transports are also on the way to the Med.
Turn 47 - Axis subs takes heavy losses in the Battle of the Atlantic! British launch Operation Husky!
At the beginning of my turn I get some nice tech upgrades:
I can also place my 5 FTR and 3 TAC for the Soviets and also build 10 MECH and 3 Leaders.
In the Atlantic my DD run into several Axis SUBs and inflict heavy losses on them:
The fat 140 PP convoy seems save!
In the Med the British mount their invasion fleet and sail to the coast of Sicily:
First target is Palermo which I hope to capture on the first turn. With a supply source I will then attack Messina.
At the beginning of my turn I get some nice tech upgrades:
I can also place my 5 FTR and 3 TAC for the Soviets and also build 10 MECH and 3 Leaders.
In the Atlantic my DD run into several Axis SUBs and inflict heavy losses on them:
The fat 140 PP convoy seems save!
In the Med the British mount their invasion fleet and sail to the coast of Sicily:
First target is Palermo which I hope to capture on the first turn. With a supply source I will then attack Messina.
Turn 48- Invasion of Sicily begins! Bad weather nearly ruins capture of Palermo!
I learned something new this turn. The rough hexes in Italy in the fair weather zone do not get the always fair weather effect of the Med-Weather zone, but are instead affected as in the Central Europe weather and the weather was muddy there. I totally forgot about this new feature and Operation Husky was nearly ruined by the mud:
However, I was lucky as Massina did not repair the GAR in Palermo. Therefore it got only 8 steps left. I first attacked with the TAC for 1:0 results (2:0 expected), then with a FTR for 1:0 (as expected) and it was down to 6 steps. Afterwards I did shore bombardment with a BB for another 1:0 result. Then I landed the ARM with Monty on the plain hex near Palermo for a 3:0 result (4:0 expected). The last two steps were finished of by the MECH doing an amphibious landing for a 2:0 result (as expected). This was nevertheless very tense. If Massina had repaired the GAR, it would not have succeeded as easily.
Last but not least, I always thought amphibious landings were possible if the weather in the sea hex is fair, independently of the weather in the landing hex. It seems this was changed, but I do not know why?
I learned something new this turn. The rough hexes in Italy in the fair weather zone do not get the always fair weather effect of the Med-Weather zone, but are instead affected as in the Central Europe weather and the weather was muddy there. I totally forgot about this new feature and Operation Husky was nearly ruined by the mud:
However, I was lucky as Massina did not repair the GAR in Palermo. Therefore it got only 8 steps left. I first attacked with the TAC for 1:0 results (2:0 expected), then with a FTR for 1:0 (as expected) and it was down to 6 steps. Afterwards I did shore bombardment with a BB for another 1:0 result. Then I landed the ARM with Monty on the plain hex near Palermo for a 3:0 result (4:0 expected). The last two steps were finished of by the MECH doing an amphibious landing for a 2:0 result (as expected). This was nevertheless very tense. If Massina had repaired the GAR, it would not have succeeded as easily.
Last but not least, I always thought amphibious landings were possible if the weather in the sea hex is fair, independently of the weather in the landing hex. It seems this was changed, but I do not know why?
Turn 49 - British move towards Messina as Operation Husky continues! US sent reinforcements to Britain!
Massina gambled and won, this turn the Soviet Union could become active, but he gets lucky and the Giant continues his sleep. Nevertheless, I begin placing several Soviet units as most likely next turn Massina will launch Operation Barbarossa 42 and I'm excited how it will turn out. I'm quite confident and therefore placed several Soviet units as near to the border as possible. It will be interesting how Massina will play this late Barbarossa, from my point of view everything is possible, even such things like amphibious invasions in the Caucasus region as well as going into full defense mode with the Axis.
But back to the action:
Operation Husky plays out as expected and the British move towards Messina, whic will probably be captured next turn. Next target will be Reggio to get a foothold on the mainland.
In Britain I use my air units for some recon missions:
All cities are garrisoned, so no easy capturing of a foothold with my paras! However, no sign of the Luftwaffe! Two turns ago I still spotted two FTR near the coast.
The US also sents reinforcements towards Britain. First two FTR and an INF are sent on its way, with two Airborne divisions waiting for embarkment:
Massina gambled and won, this turn the Soviet Union could become active, but he gets lucky and the Giant continues his sleep. Nevertheless, I begin placing several Soviet units as most likely next turn Massina will launch Operation Barbarossa 42 and I'm excited how it will turn out. I'm quite confident and therefore placed several Soviet units as near to the border as possible. It will be interesting how Massina will play this late Barbarossa, from my point of view everything is possible, even such things like amphibious invasions in the Caucasus region as well as going into full defense mode with the Axis.
But back to the action:
Operation Husky plays out as expected and the British move towards Messina, whic will probably be captured next turn. Next target will be Reggio to get a foothold on the mainland.
In Britain I use my air units for some recon missions:
All cities are garrisoned, so no easy capturing of a foothold with my paras! However, no sign of the Luftwaffe! Two turns ago I still spotted two FTR near the coast.
The US also sents reinforcements towards Britain. First two FTR and an INF are sent on its way, with two Airborne divisions waiting for embarkment:
Turn 50 - Messina captured! British prepare invasion of Italian mainland! A sleeping giant awakes!
Massina did not attack the Soviets, so I'm wondering why he did not do it!!!
Nevertheless the US got Dog Fight level 2 this turn and the Allies begin their small scale strategic bombing campaign:
I got good results and reduce the Ruhr to 4 PP.
The British capture Messina and begin preparations for landings on the toe of Italy:
I also spot several Italian INF and it will be interesting how Massina will defend Italy.
At the end of my turn the sleeping giant awakes and the Soviet Union enters the war:
I did not see much of the eastern front at the end of my turn, but it seems there are many Axis units waiting at the border!
Massina did not attack the Soviets, so I'm wondering why he did not do it!!!
Nevertheless the US got Dog Fight level 2 this turn and the Allies begin their small scale strategic bombing campaign:
I got good results and reduce the Ruhr to 4 PP.
The British capture Messina and begin preparations for landings on the toe of Italy:
I also spot several Italian INF and it will be interesting how Massina will defend Italy.
At the end of my turn the sleeping giant awakes and the Soviet Union enters the war:
I did not see much of the eastern front at the end of my turn, but it seems there are many Axis units waiting at the border!
Turn 51 - Rumors of an immediate attack on the Soviet Union were false! British capture Reggio in southern Italy!
The Soviet Union entered the war on side of the British and USA as they expected to be the facist next target. However, the Axis did not attack at all:
As you see Massina has ordered a full defense of the eastern border of the Axis empire. Not even the border cities were attacked by the Axis! Axis INF units form a solid defensive line, but left Königsberg an open city. The Red Army will need a few turns before they are ready for an offensive against the amassed Axis armies, especially as Panzer and MECH corps as well as the formidable Luftwaffe are expected behin the first line of defense. Therefore I upgrade as many Soviet units as possible and also place several Soviet leaders.
Nevertheless, the Soviets take the opportunity for a small scale advance into Finland:
At the eastern front the Red does not attack, but begin to move units westwards and most units are upgraded:
Königsberg is of course captured and the first German city to fall.
The British continue their offensive in Italy and capture Reggio:
They spot a massive Italian defense line, which will be very hard to break from an advance from the toe of Italy.
The Soviet Union entered the war on side of the British and USA as they expected to be the facist next target. However, the Axis did not attack at all:
As you see Massina has ordered a full defense of the eastern border of the Axis empire. Not even the border cities were attacked by the Axis! Axis INF units form a solid defensive line, but left Königsberg an open city. The Red Army will need a few turns before they are ready for an offensive against the amassed Axis armies, especially as Panzer and MECH corps as well as the formidable Luftwaffe are expected behin the first line of defense. Therefore I upgrade as many Soviet units as possible and also place several Soviet leaders.
Nevertheless, the Soviets take the opportunity for a small scale advance into Finland:
At the eastern front the Red does not attack, but begin to move units westwards and most units are upgraded:
Königsberg is of course captured and the first German city to fall.
The British continue their offensive in Italy and capture Reggio:
They spot a massive Italian defense line, which will be very hard to break from an advance from the toe of Italy.
Turn 52 - Massive Axis defensive formations spotted! Red Army enters Finland! British ready to capture Sardinia! US reinforcements arrive in Britain!
The Axis continue their defensive stance in the east and did not attack a single Soviet unit. I continue to organize the Red Army and to bring more units to the front:
The southern sector seems much less defended and are perhaps the soft spot or it is a trap?
However, my first target is Finland and the Red Army destroys a Finnish INF and a GAR takes heavy casualities:
The British continue their offensive in Italy and prepare to land on Sardinia:
The massive Italian defense line seems to be a hard nut to crack and I think I should avoid attacking from the toe of Italy. Perhaps southern France is a better target?
In Britain US reinforcements arrive as strategic bombing continues unopposed:
Ruhr is down to 0 PP. Oil plant is the next target as two British STR are in the pipeline.
The Axis continue their defensive stance in the east and did not attack a single Soviet unit. I continue to organize the Red Army and to bring more units to the front:
The southern sector seems much less defended and are perhaps the soft spot or it is a trap?
However, my first target is Finland and the Red Army destroys a Finnish INF and a GAR takes heavy casualities:
The British continue their offensive in Italy and prepare to land on Sardinia:
The massive Italian defense line seems to be a hard nut to crack and I think I should avoid attacking from the toe of Italy. Perhaps southern France is a better target?
In Britain US reinforcements arrive as strategic bombing continues unopposed:
Ruhr is down to 0 PP. Oil plant is the next target as two British STR are in the pipeline.
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Crazygunner1
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Be careful you don´t advance to far just south of Königsberg into the pocket that is created. It is a very bad position and vulnerable to counter attack. Unless you are powrfull enough. Massina is not a very aggressive player but you never can be to sure....
I sugggest that you continue to attack Italy and force them out of the war, send some tacs fighters, CVs so you can keep pressure. From England i would suggest that you strat bomb Germany and France as much as possible in 42. Build up might with the Russians and go after the oil in Rumania and Hungary....
Most omportantly on all fronts is to get Air superiority as soon as possible since he is determined on defense only....lot´s of fighters and tacs, strats. If he looses the airbattle, all those infantry units will be easy pickings....
Good luck
Crazyg
I sugggest that you continue to attack Italy and force them out of the war, send some tacs fighters, CVs so you can keep pressure. From England i would suggest that you strat bomb Germany and France as much as possible in 42. Build up might with the Russians and go after the oil in Rumania and Hungary....
Most omportantly on all fronts is to get Air superiority as soon as possible since he is determined on defense only....lot´s of fighters and tacs, strats. If he looses the airbattle, all those infantry units will be easy pickings....
Good luck
Crazyg
While the Axis defenses may look formidable, I expect them to crumble under a massive Soviet offensive. In 1942, I would only go for Finland, bombing Ploesti, kicking out Italy, and bombing German industrial and rail centers. Make sure the Soiets build lots of TACs and have many fully upgraded FTRs. During the next winter, you could also send the Western Allies' airforce to the Eastern Theater. You have such an abundance of PPs, that in spring 1943, you will be able to bomb the Axis defenses to dust. I predict you will be in Berlin at the end of 1943.
Turn 53 - Soviet offensive in Finland continues! British land on Sardinia!
The Red Army continues its advance in Finland and the German INF takes some losses:
The Axis will not be able to hold out a very long time.
On the eastern front there is still no action as I still bring units to the front:
As you see my offensive will start in the south, were the Axis seem weak and the Soviets will be strong. I will still need 1-2 turns before I can attack as I need some more effectivness and all my air units ready.
The British land on Sardinia:
I only landed one unit, as the other would have cost me 35 PP. Next turn Sardinia should be Allied controlled.
The Red Army continues its advance in Finland and the German INF takes some losses:
The Axis will not be able to hold out a very long time.
On the eastern front there is still no action as I still bring units to the front:
As you see my offensive will start in the south, were the Axis seem weak and the Soviets will be strong. I will still need 1-2 turns before I can attack as I need some more effectivness and all my air units ready.
The British land on Sardinia:
I only landed one unit, as the other would have cost me 35 PP. Next turn Sardinia should be Allied controlled.
Turn 54 - Red Army tests the Axis defense line! Finnish defenses disintegrate! Sardinia captured!
In Finland the Axis defense crumbles as the Red Army destroys another Finnish INF and German INF takes heavy losses:
However, my backyard landing fails as Massina railed another GAR near Oslo and I could not force a retreat on it.
Red Army launches first attacks against the Axis line:
Soviet airforces takes heavy losses, but also inflicts some damage on the Luftwaffe. Next turn my offensive units will be in good position and I will see how strong this defense line is.
In Italy I also prepare to challenge the Italian defensive line:
I also capture Sardinia easily.
In Britain Eisenhower arrives to command any US troops. Two airborne units also land and will soon be ready for a drop:
Strategic bombing also continues as a new British STR is placed.
In Finland the Axis defense crumbles as the Red Army destroys another Finnish INF and German INF takes heavy losses:
However, my backyard landing fails as Massina railed another GAR near Oslo and I could not force a retreat on it.
Red Army launches first attacks against the Axis line:
Soviet airforces takes heavy losses, but also inflicts some damage on the Luftwaffe. Next turn my offensive units will be in good position and I will see how strong this defense line is.
In Italy I also prepare to challenge the Italian defensive line:
I also capture Sardinia easily.
In Britain Eisenhower arrives to command any US troops. Two airborne units also land and will soon be ready for a drop:
Strategic bombing also continues as a new British STR is placed.
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Crazygunner1
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Turn 55 - Red Army pushes into Romania! Finland under pressure! British test Italian defense line!
We both installed the newest 2.00 am patch, but we agreed that the Allies will not try to capture Tunis for an easy Italian surrender.
Therefore I will need to capture a major Italian city on the mainland:
The British managed to destroy an Italian INF. With my air support it could be easier then I thought to break through this defense line.
On the eastern front the Red Army attacks with force and breaks through the defense line in several spots:
However, the Soviet airforce took heavy losses. Furthermore, the Luftwaffe destroyed a Soviet FTR in range of the German superior FTR. Nevertheless, I have two FTR in the pipeline and a new TAC and STR. I also moved two FTR from the Finnish front to the south.
In Finland the Axis army seems beaten and soon the country will surrender:
The Allies also continued bombing of western Germany.
We both installed the newest 2.00 am patch, but we agreed that the Allies will not try to capture Tunis for an easy Italian surrender.
Therefore I will need to capture a major Italian city on the mainland:
The British managed to destroy an Italian INF. With my air support it could be easier then I thought to break through this defense line.
On the eastern front the Red Army attacks with force and breaks through the defense line in several spots:
However, the Soviet airforce took heavy losses. Furthermore, the Luftwaffe destroyed a Soviet FTR in range of the German superior FTR. Nevertheless, I have two FTR in the pipeline and a new TAC and STR. I also moved two FTR from the Finnish front to the south.
In Finland the Axis army seems beaten and soon the country will surrender:
The Allies also continued bombing of western Germany.
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Peter Stauffenberg
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I guess this game shows that Russia is the most dangerous Allied country so the Axis really have to focus on doing as much damage to them as possible in 1941. Doing a 1942 Barbarossa is still possible, but then you need to have succeeded in knocking Britain out of England and taken Egypt / Iraq. Then you can push towards Baku and maybe manage to get Turkey on your side.
Turn 56 - Armistice with Finland signed! Soviet offensive in Romania continues!
Despite some losses (I lost the damaged ARM and MECH) the Soviet offensive continues:
I destroy one German INF and other Axis units take casualities.
In Italy the British destroy another Italian INF:
The total lack of any air defense makes this easy. However, it will take some time to take the defense line down, so I wil try some landings near Taranto.
Last but not least Finland and the USSR sign an armistice as I hold two Finnish cities and not many Axis unit remained in Finland:
Despite some losses (I lost the damaged ARM and MECH) the Soviet offensive continues:
I destroy one German INF and other Axis units take casualities.
In Italy the British destroy another Italian INF:
The total lack of any air defense makes this easy. However, it will take some time to take the defense line down, so I wil try some landings near Taranto.
Last but not least Finland and the USSR sign an armistice as I hold two Finnish cities and not many Axis unit remained in Finland:
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Peter Stauffenberg
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Both Spain and Turkey can join either side under certain circumstances.Suprass wrote:Is there a chance to get Turkey (or other country) on Axis/Allied side without conquering it? Or you mean to conquer it?Stauffenberg wrote: Then you can push towards Baku and maybe manage to get Turkey on your side.
Turkey will join the side controlling all of: Athens, Sofia, Bucharest, Moscow, Baku and Baghdad
Spain will join if the French armistice offer was rejected and a controlling all of: Casablanca, Oran, Algiers, Tunis, Rome and Paris. So if the Axis accept the French armistice offer then Spain will move to strict neutrality.
It's not easy to get these countries on your side, but it's definitely possible if you make your decisions to make it happen.