Grand Campaign 1939 Full Version 1.3 - Custom Campaign (updated)

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Grondel
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Re: Grand Campaign 1939 Full Version 1.3 - Custom Campaign (updated)

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Resolute wrote: Mon Sep 18, 2023 8:11 pm Some feedback on 39' and choosing the Finnland scenarios:
- Rewards are a lot better, especially with the two heroes you get during Barbarossa.
- I always play with "slow modernization" which really hampers a player during the scenarios since you can only convert so many units. I did still win but was not able to get any of the bonus objectives
- When converting infantry to "Finnland Ski Infantry" the "Hit and Run" trait will carry over after importing core units for the 40' campaign which makes those units a bit overpowered.

There is also a placeholder box at the very end which just reads "texttext'"
thx for the feedback.
Resolute wrote: Mon Sep 18, 2023 8:11 pm - I always play with "slow modernization" which really hampers a player during the scenarios since you can only convert so many units. I did still win but was not able to get any of the bonus objectives
This can easily be done if u plan ahead. capture polish/russian equipment and upgrade before the finnland missions to have enough. If u want the extra points of the trait, face the consequences.
Resolute wrote: Mon Sep 18, 2023 8:11 pm - When converting infantry to "Finnland Ski Infantry" the "Hit and Run" trait will carry over after importing core units for the 40' campaign which makes those units a bit overpowered.
those will become obsolete pretty quick unless u stack initiative heroes. the attack values will be obsolete with 43.

sers,
Thomas
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Re: Grand Campaign 1939 Full Version 1.3 - Custom Campaign (updated)

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Grondel wrote: Mon Sep 18, 2023 9:49 pm
Resolute wrote: Mon Sep 18, 2023 8:11 pm Some feedback on 39' and choosing the Finnland scenarios:
- Rewards are a lot better, especially with the two heroes you get during Barbarossa.
- I always play with "slow modernization" which really hampers a player during the scenarios since you can only convert so many units. I did still win but was not able to get any of the bonus objectives
- When converting infantry to "Finnland Ski Infantry" the "Hit and Run" trait will carry over after importing core units for the 40' campaign which makes those units a bit overpowered.

There is also a placeholder box at the very end which just reads "texttext'"
thx for the feedback.
Resolute wrote: Mon Sep 18, 2023 8:11 pm - I always play with "slow modernization" which really hampers a player during the scenarios since you can only convert so many units. I did still win but was not able to get any of the bonus objectives
This can easily be done if u plan ahead. capture polish/russian equipment and upgrade before the finnland missions to have enough. If u want the extra points of the trait, face the consequences.
Resolute wrote: Mon Sep 18, 2023 8:11 pm - When converting infantry to "Finnland Ski Infantry" the "Hit and Run" trait will carry over after importing core units for the 40' campaign which makes those units a bit overpowered.
those will become obsolete pretty quick unless u stack initiative heroes. the attack values will be obsolete with 43.

sers,
Thomas
Problem with planning ahead is, that players do not know beforehand how those scenariors are going to play out. Besides you can not convert your infantry before the first scenario.

The "Finnish Ski Infantry" will indeed become obsolete but 43 is a long way to go and with all those +Initiative heroes it makes Finnland just the stronger scenario in comparison to Norway.
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Re: Grand Campaign 1939 Full Version 1.3 - Custom Campaign (updated)

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Resolute wrote: Mon Sep 18, 2023 10:40 pm The "Finnish Ski Infantry" will indeed become obsolete but 43 is a long way to go and with all those +Initiative heroes it makes Finnland just the stronger scenario in comparison to Norway.
thats very debatable. :)

Norway:
Galand, Dietl, Horstmann, Neubaufahrzeug

Finnland:
Toerni, Sarvanto, Lagus, Ski Infantry acces

The choices are certainly diffrent, but if u let the community "decide" on which is stronger u will start a flame war. :)
It is very personal and playstyle related which combination is stronger and preferable.

sers,
Thomas
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Re: Grand Campaign 1939 Full Version 1.3 - Custom Campaign (updated)

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Grondel wrote: Mon Sep 18, 2023 11:02 pm
Resolute wrote: Mon Sep 18, 2023 10:40 pm The "Finnish Ski Infantry" will indeed become obsolete but 43 is a long way to go and with all those +Initiative heroes it makes Finnland just the stronger scenario in comparison to Norway.
thats very debatable. :)

Norway:
Galand, Dietl, Horstmann, Neubaufahrzeug

Finnland:
Toerni, Sarvanto, Lagus, Ski Infantry acces

The choices are certainly diffrent, but if u let the community "decide" on which is stronger u will start a flame war. :)
It is very personal and playstyle related which combination is stronger and preferable.

sers,
Thomas
You missed the two heroes you get during Barbarossa. If you include them for players who went for Norway, I'd be very happy :)
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Re: Grand Campaign 1939 Full Version 1.3 - Custom Campaign (updated)

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Resolute wrote: Tue Sep 19, 2023 7:05 pm You missed the two heroes you get during Barbarossa. If you include them for players who went for Norway, I'd be very happy :)
41 will get an addition when i´m done with 1940. continuation-war and some side step for the ones who went norway.

if u went norway u get 2 azuls in 41. the heroes u get from the finnland route just comes with 2 grenadiers.

sers,
Thomas
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Re: Grand Campaign 1939 Full Version 1.3 - Custom Campaign (updated)

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Grondel wrote: Tue Sep 19, 2023 8:04 pm
Resolute wrote: Tue Sep 19, 2023 7:05 pm You missed the two heroes you get during Barbarossa. If you include them for players who went for Norway, I'd be very happy :)
41 will get an addition when i´m done with 1940. continuation-war and some side step for the ones who went norway.

if u went norway u get 2 azuls in 41. the heroes u get from the finnland route just comes with 2 grenadiers.

sers,
Thomas
Can't wait for 41' then :) The Azul's are just a lot weaker than the grenadiers since they do not come with individual heroes, epeciually "hit and run" is just really nice.
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Re: Grand Campaign 1939 Full Version 1.3 - Custom Campaign (updated)

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Resolute wrote: Tue Sep 19, 2023 8:10 pm Can't wait for 41' then :) The Azul's are just a lot weaker than the grenadiers since they do not come with individual heroes, epeciually "hit and run" is just really nice.
i´ll have an eye on balancing the choices a bit, but later in 43NH u can upgrade those azuls to a grenadier version. currently at the end of 43NH. maybe i will move that to the training after moscow.

sers,
Thomas
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