Ottoman team event : Round Two
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SnuggleBunnies
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Re: Ottoman team event : Round Two
As promised, glorious Poles gloriously gloriousing for the glory of Poland:
https://youtu.be/0p5aYnZFDBw
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Re: Ottoman team event : Round Two
Thanks, Snuggles, sigh...SnuggleBunnies wrote: ↑Wed Dec 16, 2020 4:08 pm As promised, glorious Poles gloriously gloriousing for the glory of Poland:
https://youtu.be/0p5aYnZFDBw
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GDod
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Re: Ottoman team event : Round Two
It seems that we have successfully thrown our Zaporozhian serfs at the Ottomans and they have not disappointed. The Polish/Lithuanian Commonwealth Alliance will be pleased to hear that their escaped serfs are sacrificing themselves by dying in great numbers to slow the spread of footstools in the Black Sea Region.
An reliable eye-witness account of the battle for our cossack correspondent Lota Runninawyovich Meanwhile, the Cossack bulawa under the command to my good right hand man - Otaman Lefty Ladovich is continuing to contest the supremacy of flynnn5555's illegal footstool stores on the plains of Vryatuy mene vid osmaniv near the Dnieper Rapids.
While herding the Zaporozhian serfs on an entirely featureless plain has resulted in a severe shortage of serfs for our footstool manufacturing workhouses across the alliance, rested assured Lefty will do his utmost to ensure numerous skilled Ottoman workers are enslaved after the conclusion of his successful action (maybe...gulp!)
An reliable eye-witness account of the battle for our cossack correspondent Lota Runninawyovich Meanwhile, the Cossack bulawa under the command to my good right hand man - Otaman Lefty Ladovich is continuing to contest the supremacy of flynnn5555's illegal footstool stores on the plains of Vryatuy mene vid osmaniv near the Dnieper Rapids.
While herding the Zaporozhian serfs on an entirely featureless plain has resulted in a severe shortage of serfs for our footstool manufacturing workhouses across the alliance, rested assured Lefty will do his utmost to ensure numerous skilled Ottoman workers are enslaved after the conclusion of his successful action (maybe...gulp!)
"La guerre ne détermine pas qui a raison, mais qui reste" - Bertrand Russell
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GentlemanRanker
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Re: Ottoman team event : Round Two
smjohnso77's Teutonic Knight 1543 – 1561 beat Gentleman Ranker's Ottomans 1560 – 1609: 38 - 60
smjohnso77 chose to forego the potential 200 point advantage, and set up a battle with ‘very large’ forces. These huge battles are insane; the Knights fielded more units of lancers and pike keils than I could count (it has been cold here, and I wanted to keep my socks on), and at least six units of artillery. Even on an extra wide battlefield, they were able to form a continuous battle line, with reinforced wings.
Unfortunately, apart from a couple of villages, there was no cover in Ottoman deployment zone, so the Ottomans set up to race to a hill with rough ground and some forest, on their right wing. The Knights redeployed to counter more quickly than anticipated, and their pikes caught the Ottoman janissaries in the open, while still in column of march. The janissaries were unable to form a coherent battle line, and their destruction decided the game.
Some of the faster moving Ottoman cavalry on the right did manage to gain the advantage of the rough ground on the hill, and where they did, they generally managed to survive impact from multiple gendarmes and reiters, until these could flanked and routed. An interesting matchup, Steve said that he had previously managed to win as both factions, and I think it is fair to say that different terrain might well have led to a different outcome.
One small crumb of comfort for the disgraced Ottoman general; a unit of poorly armed levies lurking in one of the villages, managed to flank, and break upon impact, an elite unit of Brother Knights which were pursing past. It is not clear from the manual, but to never let your cavalry turn their backs on poorly armed levies, is a lesson all devotees of this game eventually learn the hard way.
Thanks to Steve for an enjoyable game, a well deserved win for him.
smjohnso77 chose to forego the potential 200 point advantage, and set up a battle with ‘very large’ forces. These huge battles are insane; the Knights fielded more units of lancers and pike keils than I could count (it has been cold here, and I wanted to keep my socks on), and at least six units of artillery. Even on an extra wide battlefield, they were able to form a continuous battle line, with reinforced wings.
Unfortunately, apart from a couple of villages, there was no cover in Ottoman deployment zone, so the Ottomans set up to race to a hill with rough ground and some forest, on their right wing. The Knights redeployed to counter more quickly than anticipated, and their pikes caught the Ottoman janissaries in the open, while still in column of march. The janissaries were unable to form a coherent battle line, and their destruction decided the game.
Some of the faster moving Ottoman cavalry on the right did manage to gain the advantage of the rough ground on the hill, and where they did, they generally managed to survive impact from multiple gendarmes and reiters, until these could flanked and routed. An interesting matchup, Steve said that he had previously managed to win as both factions, and I think it is fair to say that different terrain might well have led to a different outcome.
One small crumb of comfort for the disgraced Ottoman general; a unit of poorly armed levies lurking in one of the villages, managed to flank, and break upon impact, an elite unit of Brother Knights which were pursing past. It is not clear from the manual, but to never let your cavalry turn their backs on poorly armed levies, is a lesson all devotees of this game eventually learn the hard way.
Thanks to Steve for an enjoyable game, a well deserved win for him.
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KiwiWarlord
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Re: Ottoman team event : Round Two
Condolences from the Sultan GR. Your heroes, the Levy, will be made timarli sipahi on their return from this Campaign.GentlemanRanker wrote: ↑Fri Dec 18, 2020 10:10 pm smjohnso77's Teutonic Knight 1543 – 1561 beat Gentleman Ranker's Ottomans 1560 – 1609: 38 - 60
One small crumb of comfort for the disgraced Ottoman general; a unit of poorly armed levies lurking in one of the villages, managed to flank, and break upon impact, an elite unit of Brother Knights which were pursing past. .
Re: Ottoman team event : Round Two
The Teutonic list is one of the most bonkers army lists in the mod, I've honestly would have given up without a fight if I had to face them. The fact you managed to inflict so high losses on them is commendable.GentlemanRanker wrote: ↑Fri Dec 18, 2020 10:10 pm smjohnso77's Teutonic Knight 1543 – 1561 beat Gentleman Ranker's Ottomans 1560 – 1609: 38 - 60
Hah! I wish I could see that. I still don't understand at all why Brother Knights are elite, but the fact that levies managed to kick their asses definitely makes it hilarious.GentlemanRanker wrote: ↑Fri Dec 18, 2020 10:10 pm One small crumb of comfort for the disgraced Ottoman general; a unit of poorly armed levies lurking in one of the villages, managed to flank, and break upon impact, an elite unit of Brother Knights which were pursing past.
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KiwiWarlord
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Re: Ottoman team event : Round Two
Peace has been negotiated between Kerry D's Polish Invasion of the Ottoman Empire & the Sultan.
Result - Draw
The Poles believed that they could catch the Ottomans off guard and launched a surprise attack on the Sultan's army, which rumour had it was indulging in upgrading the harems of many Sipahi due to the influx of Hungarians, by marching through a forest on the flank of the Ottoman encampment.
The Sultan's misinformation campaign worked well as the Ottoman army was deployed in the woods awaiting the Poles.
A bit of skirmishing saw off the Poles and they begged for peace as they were not going to engage the Sultan's army in the woods as the Winged Hussars would get their feathers damaged riding through the trees.
Result - Draw
The Poles believed that they could catch the Ottomans off guard and launched a surprise attack on the Sultan's army, which rumour had it was indulging in upgrading the harems of many Sipahi due to the influx of Hungarians, by marching through a forest on the flank of the Ottoman encampment.
The Sultan's misinformation campaign worked well as the Ottoman army was deployed in the woods awaiting the Poles.
A bit of skirmishing saw off the Poles and they begged for peace as they were not going to engage the Sultan's army in the woods as the Winged Hussars would get their feathers damaged riding through the trees.
Re: Ottoman team event : Round Two
So much for inspirational leadership from the Sultan Kiwiwarlord who from now on shall be named "Sulaimon the lurker"
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gribol
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Re: Ottoman team event : Round Two
Gribol (Ottomans) wins with PanCalvus (Commonwealth/Polish) with the result 43:8
Just please dont ask me, how that was possible, because i dont know ... (especially, that i have got luck be the side, that was waiting for reinforcements).
Thank you for an interesting battle.
Just please dont ask me, how that was possible, because i dont know ... (especially, that i have got luck be the side, that was waiting for reinforcements).
Thank you for an interesting battle.
Re: Ottoman team event : Round Two
Time for a round-up
Ottoman victories
Gribol v Pancalvus (Polish)
Enemy victories
Snugglebunnies (Polish) v ahuyton
Smjohnso77 (Teutonics) v GentlemanRanker
Draws
Kerry D (Polish) v Kiwiwarlord
Not yet decided
Nosy_Rat v TheGrayMouser (Transylvanian)
Flynnn5555 v Gdod
Snooky51 v Awesum4 (Polish)
Sedo v Cromlechi
Dang v Gdod
Ottoman victories
Gribol v Pancalvus (Polish)
Enemy victories
Snugglebunnies (Polish) v ahuyton
Smjohnso77 (Teutonics) v GentlemanRanker
Draws
Kerry D (Polish) v Kiwiwarlord
Not yet decided
Nosy_Rat v TheGrayMouser (Transylvanian)
Flynnn5555 v Gdod
Snooky51 v Awesum4 (Polish)
Sedo v Cromlechi
Dang v Gdod
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KiwiWarlord
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TomoeGozen
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Re: Ottoman team event : Round Two
The martyrs of the great Algerian uprising will be turning in their graves at having their finest moment forgotten already....ahuyton wrote: ↑Sat Dec 19, 2020 5:06 pm Time for a round-up
Ottoman victories
Gribol v Pancalvus (Polish)
Enemy victories
Snugglebunnies (Polish) v ahuyton
Smjohnso77 (Teutonics) v GentlemanRanker
Draws
Kerry D (Polish) v Kiwiwarlord
Not yet decided
Nosy_Rat v TheGrayMouser (Transylvanian)
Flynnn5555 v Gdod
Snooky51 v Awesum4 (Polish)
Sedo v Cromlechi
Dang v Gdod
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After returning to my Ochakiv Horde I personally issued an order to castrate any chronicler who tried to spread this slander. All available maps also have been adjusted. Algeria officially doesn't exist now.TomoeGozen wrote: ↑Sat Dec 19, 2020 9:12 pm
The martyrs of the great Algerian uprising will be turning in their graves at having their finest moment forgotten already....
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The massive Polish victory over the Turkish hordes led by Andreus Corvinus in person have also been expunged from the history books.
This is typical of the modern 16th century mainstream media, reporting only some of the truth, false anti-catholic slurs which are readily passed on by pamphleteers and protestant fellow travellers. We demand the truth be told.
This is typical of the modern 16th century mainstream media, reporting only some of the truth, false anti-catholic slurs which are readily passed on by pamphleteers and protestant fellow travellers. We demand the truth be told.
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Re: Ottoman team event : Round Two
It appears the Ottoman press is in the pay of Veles , ex-Vizier in Algeria....Veles wrote: ↑Sat Dec 19, 2020 9:31 pmAfter returning to my Ochakiv Horde I personally issued an order to castrate any chronicler who tried to spread this slander. All available maps also have been adjusted. Algeria officially doesn't exist now.TomoeGozen wrote: ↑Sat Dec 19, 2020 9:12 pm
The martyrs of the great Algerian uprising will be turning in their graves at having their finest moment forgotten already....
Re: Ottoman team event : Round Two
Time for a corrected round-up. I sense from Andre's comments that I have missed another result, but I could not see anything in the posts. Please correct me if I am mistaken.
Ottoman victories
Gribol v Pancalvus (Polish)
Enemy victories
Snugglebunnies (Polish) v ahuyton
Smjohnso77 (Teutonics) v GentlemanRanker
Tomoegozen (Algerian) v Veles
Awesum4 (Polish) v Snooky51
Draws
Kerry D (Polish) v Kiwiwarlord
Not yet decided
Nosy_Rat v TheGrayMouser (Transylvanian)
Flynnn5555 v Gdod
Sedo v Cromlechi
Dang v Gdod (Zaporozhian Cossacks)
Ottoman victories
Gribol v Pancalvus (Polish)
Enemy victories
Snugglebunnies (Polish) v ahuyton
Smjohnso77 (Teutonics) v GentlemanRanker
Tomoegozen (Algerian) v Veles
Awesum4 (Polish) v Snooky51
Draws
Kerry D (Polish) v Kiwiwarlord
Not yet decided
Nosy_Rat v TheGrayMouser (Transylvanian)
Flynnn5555 v Gdod
Sedo v Cromlechi
Dang v Gdod (Zaporozhian Cossacks)
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KiwiWarlord
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Re: Ottoman team event : Round Two
Alan,
these are strange times and strange events are happening.
Snooky51 posted the result of our battle on the 11th, and I followed that with confirmation of the result and a battle report, but both have disappeared.
Anyway the result was a Polish victory by 52% to 16%.
these are strange times and strange events are happening.
Snooky51 posted the result of our battle on the 11th, and I followed that with confirmation of the result and a battle report, but both have disappeared.
Anyway the result was a Polish victory by 52% to 16%.
Re: Ottoman team event : Round Two
Ah, thanks Andre, apologies for missing it. It is strange that the posts have disappeared - I have no 'rights' to delete anything.awesum4 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 20, 2020 10:04 pm Alan,
these are strange times and strange events are happening.
Snooky51 posted the result of our battle on the 11th, and I followed that with confirmation of the result and a battle report, but both have disappeared.
Anyway the result was a Polish victory by 52% to 16%.
Anyway, I have amended the table above.
Hopefully we can get the remaining games completed by the end of the year and start Round 3 in January.
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GDod
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Re: Ottoman team event : Round Two
"Pasha the Pole Buster said these European hats are all the rage this time of year Sultan. We're thinking of equipping the Janissaries with them."
"La guerre ne détermine pas qui a raison, mais qui reste" - Bertrand Russell
