The Dustbin

[stockwellpete]

First of all, you put your challenge in the multi-player lobby so that is available to play. The settings required for all matches in the FOG2DL are available in the first post of each of the "challenges" threads. Then make make sure that you are using the appropriate thread for your match and put your challenge there so that both your opponent and the tournament organisers can see that a challenge has been made. This is particularly important should a match eventually go to the adjudication committee because of non-completion. Also send a PM (private message) in case the challenge that you posted in the thread is overlooked. Sometimes this will happen if the thread moves onto a new page after your challenge has been posted.

Example: Classical Antiquity thread

Division A
stockwellpete (Indians) challenges hidde (Seleucids); password is abc123. PM sent.

That is all there is to it. Sometimes players will just issue one challenge, on other occasions a player might issue 3 or 4 challenges at the same time. It is entirely up to you how you proceed. Only the Themed Event adheres to a schedule. All that is asked is that players try to arrange their matches fairly evenly across the sections they have entered rather than concentrate on just one section at a time.

There can be some tactical considerations to the issuing of challenges although not all players are concerned too much about this. For instance, what if you have a player in your division who has always beaten you? Is it better to play them at the beginning before they really get to grips with their army, or is it better to build up some confidence against someone you may beaten before?

If you have any questions please post them in this thread.

[shadowblack]

So we post the challenge and wait for a reply before actually creating the battle?

[stockwellpete]

So we post the challenge and wait for a reply before actually creating the battle?

Good question. No, you can put the challenge up on the system so that a player can pick up your challenge on the forum and then go straight to the game and get started. I will make that clearer in the original post. Thanks.

[stockwellpete]

Important: the first named player will take the Tigranes Armenians and the second named player will take the Atropatenes. So the first fixture in Division A will be Breogan (Tigranes Armenians) v edb1815 (Atropatenes). You may not swap armies in this section.

First group of fixtures

Division A

Round 1: Armenians Tigranes (83-69BC) v Atropatenes (144BC-226AD)
Breogan v edb1815
stockwellpete v hidde
Lysimachos v schmolywar
ianiow v Snugglebunnies
Valdavia v The GrayMouser

Round 2: Ancient British (60BC-80AD) v Scots-Irish (50BC-476AD)
Snugglebunnies v Breogan
edb1815 v stockwellpete
hidde v Lysimachos
TheGrayMouser v ianiow
schmolywar v Valdavia

Round 3: Indo-Parthians (60BC-130AD) v Indo-Skythians (95BC-50AD)
Breogan v hidde
edb1815 v ianiow
Valdavia v Lysimachos
stockwellpete v schmolywar
Snugglebunnies v TheGrayMouser

Division B

Round 1: Armenians Tigranes (83-69BC) v Atropatenes (144BC-226AD)
batesmotel v Cunningcairn
padster v devoncop
majandro v markwatson360
Gorrick v ahuyton
shawkhan2 v shadowblack

Round 2: Ancient British (60BC-80AD) v Scots-Irish (50BC-476AD)
ahuyton v batesmotel
Cunningcairn v padster
devoncop v majandro
shadowblack v Gorrick
markwatson 360 v shawkhan2

Round 3: Indo-Parthians (60BC-130AD) v Indo-Skythians (95BC-50AD)
batesmotel v devoncop
Cunningcairn v Gorrick
shawkhan2 v majandro
padster v markwatson360
ahuyton v shadowblack

Division C

Round 1: Armenians Tigranes (83-69BC) v Atropatenes (144BC-226AD)
76mm v Barrold713
Trogilus v FroBodine
iandavidsmith v nyczar
Gray Nemesis v simpleninja
ZygfrydeLowe v Ulysisgrunt

Round 2: Ancient British (60BC-80AD) v Scots-Irish (50BC-476AD)
simpleninja v 76mm
Barrold713 v Trogilus
FroBodine v iandavidsmith
Ulysisgrunt v Gray Nemesis
nyczar v ZygfrydeLowe

Round 3: Indo-Parthians (60BC-130AD) v Indo-Skythians (95BC-50AD)
76mm v FroBodine
Barrold 713 v GrayNemesis
ZygfrydeLowe v iandavidsmith
Trogilus v nyczar
simpleninja v Ulysisgrunt

The second group of fixtures will be posted on February 15, the third group on March 1st.

[76mm]

I don't understand your Example 2; your example includes a password, as if a challenge has been posted already, but how do you know which opponent to include in the challenge until you know which player it will be?

[Gorrick]

Wouldn't it be better to send the password in the PM only, instead of posting it in a more or less public forum? Theoretically everybody can accept the challenge after posting the password here.

[stockwellpete]

Wouldn't it be better to send the password in the PM only, instead of posting it in a more or less public forum? Theoretically everybody can accept the challenge after posting the password here.

You might think so but, in practice, I cannot remember it happening in the four seasons of the FOG1DL. I think players who enter the tournament are respectful of other players' arrangements.

[stockwellpete]

stockwellpete has a "senior moment"

[stockwellpete]

First group of fixtures

Division A

Round 1
ggarynorman (Graeco-Bactrians) v hidde (Di 200BC-303AD)
Snugglebunnies (Chinese 209-100BC) v Jonathan4290 (Indian)
NikiforasFokas (Indo-Skythian) v rexhurley (Kushan)
mhladnik (Saka) v schmolywar (Indo-Greeks)
TheGrayMouser (Indo-Parthians) v ruskicanuk (Seleucids 166-125BC)

Round 2
schmolywar (Indo-Greeks) v ggarynorman (Graeco-Bactrians)
hidde (Di 200BC-303AD) v Snugglebunnies (Chinese 209-100BC)
Jonathan4290 (Indian) v NikiforosFokas (Indo-Skythian)
ruskicanuk (Seleucids 166-125BC) v mhladnik (Saka)
rexhurley (Kushan) v TheGrayMouser (Indo-Parthians)

Round 3
ggarynorman (Graeco-Bactrians) v Jonathan4290 (Indian)
hidde (Di 200BC-303AD) v mhladnik (Saka)
TheGrayMouser (Indo-Parthians) v NikiforosFokas (Indo-Skythian)
Snugglebunnies (Chinese 209-100BC) v rexhurley (Kushan)
schmolywar (Indo-Greeks) v ruskicanuk (Seleucids 166-125BC)

Division B

Round 1
Barrold713 (Indo-Skythians) v Brenmusik (Qiang)
shadowblack (Indo-Parthians) v Conaire (Indian)
paulmcneil (Kushan) v FroBodine (Di)
Cunningcairn (Indo-Greeks) v Gorrick (Seleucids)
Sennacherib (Mountain Indians) v majandro (Graeco-Bactrians)

Round 2
Gorrick (Seleucids) v Barrold713 (Indo-Skythians)
Brenmusik (Qiang) v shadowblack (Indo-Parthians)
Conaire (Indian) v paulmcneil (Kushan)
majandro (Graeco-Bactrians) v Cunningcairn (Indo-Greeks)
FroBodine (Di) v Sennacherib (Mountain Indians)

Round 3
Barrold713 (Indo-Skythians) v Conaire (Indian)
Brenmusik (Qiang) v Cunningcairn (Indo-Greeks)
Sennacherib (Mountain Indians) v paulmcneil (Kushan)
shadowblack (Indo-Parthians) v FroBodine (Di)
Gorrick (Seleucids) v majandro (Graeco-Bactrians)

The second group of fixtures will be posted on February 15, the third group on March 1.

[mhladnik]

I think the main question here was actually: how do I set up a challenge if it's for any player and thus I don't know what the opposing army will be.

[stockwellpete]

I think the main question here was actually: how do I set up a challenge if it's for any player and thus I don't know what the opposing army will be.

Yes, I see what you mean now. I have imported all these procedures from FOG 1 and the set-up is different, isn't it? So you cannot actually use method 2 any more. Apologies to everyone. I will rewrite the top post now. (I'm glad somebody is keeping an eye on me!)

[stockwellpete]

Important: the Diadochi armies for the group stage are as follows . . .

Antigonid (320-301BC)
Lysimachid (320-281BC)
Seleucid (300-206BC)
Ptolemaic (320-167BC)

First round of fixtures

Pool A

Group 1
shadowblack (Antigonids) v NikiforosFokas (Lysimachids)
edb1815 (Seleucids) v Lysimachos (Ptolemaics)

Group 2
Snugglebunnies (Antigonids) v mhladnik (Lysimachids)
rexhurley (Seleucids) v schmolywar (Ptolemaics)

Group 3
markwatson360 (Antigonids) v devoncop (Lysimachids)
stockwellpete (Seleucids) v shawkhan2 (Ptolemaics)

Group 4
Dortmund (Antigonids) v Valdavia (Lysimachids)
ianiow (Seleucids) v wolf blitzee (Ptolemaics)

Pool B

Group 1
stimovsky (Antigonids) v Cunningcairn (Lysimachids)
Conaire (Seleucids) v Ulysisgrunt (Ptolemaics)

Group 2
SpeedyCM (Antigonids) v tofman04 (Lysimachids)
Trogilus (Seleucids) v Asterix_von_TWC (Ptolemaics)

Group 3
XLegione (Antigonids) v simpleninja (Lysimachids)
Ironclad (Seleucids) v herm (Ptolemaics)

Group 4
gamercb (Antigonids) v 76mm (Lysimachids)
pbuck777 (Seleucids) v GrayNemesis (Ptolemaics)

Matches must be completed by 9pm (GMT) February 14.

[stockwellpete]

Everything is posted up now and I will open the threads at about 6pm today. If you see any mistakes anywhere please let me know.

[stockwellpete]

Second group of fixtures

Division A

Round 4
mhladnik (Qiang 200BC-303AD) v ggarynorman (Kushan)
Jonathan4290 (Di 200BC-303AD) v hidde (Chinese 209-100BC)
NikiforosFokas (Saka) v ruskicanuk (Indo-Greeks)
rexhurley (Graeco-Bactrian) v schmolywar (Mountain Indians)
TheGrayMouser (Seleucids 166-125BC) v Snugglebunnies (Indo-Skythians)

Round 5
ggarynorman (Kushan) v Snugglebunnies (Indo-Skythians)
hidde (Chinese 209-100BC) v schmolywar (Mountain Indians)
Jonathan4290 (Di 200BC-303AD) v TheGrayMouser (Seleucids 166-125BC)
mhladnik (Qiang 200BC-303AD) v NikiforosFokas (Saka)
ruskicanuk (Indo-Greeks) v rexhurley (Graeco-Bactrian)

Round 6
ruskicanuk (Indo-Greeks) v ggarynorman (Kushan)
TheGrayMouser (Seleucids 166-125BC) v hidde (Chinese 209-100BC)
schmolywar (Mountain Indians) v Jonathan4290 (Di 200BC-303AD)
rexhurley (Graeco-Bactrian) v mhladnik (Qiang 200BC-303AD)
Snugglebunnies (Indo-Skythians) v NikiforosFokas (Saka)

Division B

Round 4
Cunningcairn (Seleucids) v Barrold713 (Di)
Conaire (Indo-Parthian) v Brenmusik (Kushan)
paulmcneil (Indo-Greeks) v majandro (Mountain Indian)
FroBodine (Qiang) v Gorrick (Chinese)
Sennacherib (Indians) v shadowblack (Saka)

Round 5
Barrold713 (Di) v shadowblack (Saka)
Brenmusik (Kushan) v Gorrick (Chinese)
Conaire (Indo-Parthian) v Sennacherib (Indians)
Cunningcairn (Seleucids) v paulmcneil (Indo-Greeks)
majandro (Mountain Indian) v FroBodine (Qiang)

Round 6
majandro (Mountain Indian) v Barrold713 (Di)
Sennacherib (Indians) v Brenmusik (Kushan)
Gorrick (Chinese) v Conaire (Indo-Parthian)
FroBodine (Qiang) v Cunningcairn (Seleucids)
shadowblack (Saka) v paulmcneil (Indo-Greeks)

The third group of fixtures will be posted on March 1.

[stockwellpete]

Third group of fixtures

Division A

Round 7
ggarynorman (Di 200BC-303AD) v TheGrayMouser (Indian)
hidde (Saka) v ruskicanuk (Mountain Indians)
Jonathan4290 (Seleucids 166-125BC) v rexhurley (Chinese 209-100BC)
mhladnik (Indo-Parthians) v Snugglebunnies (Qiang 200BC-303AD)
NikiforosFokas (Graeco-Bactrians) v schmolywar (Kushan)

Round 8
NikiforosFokas (Graeco-Bactrians) v ggarynorman (Di 200BC-303AD)
rexhurley (Chinese 209-100BC) v hidde (Saka)
ruskicanuk (Mountain Indians) v Jonathan4290 (Seleucids 166-125BC)
TheGrayMouser (Indians) v mhladnik (Indo-Parthians)
Snugglebunnies (Qiang 200BC-303AD) v schmolywar (Kushan)

Round 9
ggarynorman (Di 200BC-303AD) v rexhurley (Chinese 209-100BC)
hidde (Saka) v NikiforosFokas (Graeco-Bactrians)
ruskicanuk (Mountain Indians) Snugglebunnies (Qiang 200BC-303AD)
schmolywar (Kushan) v TheGrayMouser (Indians)
Jonathan4290 (Seleucids 166-125BC) v mhladnik (Indo-Parthians)

Division B

Round 7
Barrold713 (Saka) v Sennacherib (Di)
Brenmusik (Indo-Parthians) v majandro (Seleucids)
Conaire (Indo-Skythians) v FroBodine (Kushan)
Cunningcairn (Indian) v shadowblack (Indo-Greeks)
paulmcneil (Qiang) v Gorrick (Graeco-Bactrian)

Round 8
paulmcneil (Qiang) v Barrold713 (Saka)
FroBodine (Kushan) v Brenmusik (Indo-Parthians)
majandro (Seleucids) v Conaire (Indo-Skythians)
Sennacherib (Di) v Cunningcairn (Indian)
shadowblack (Indo-Greeks) v Gorrick (Graeco-Bactrian)

Round 9
Barrold713 (Saka) v FroBodine (Kushan)
Brenmusik (Indo-Parthians) v paulmcneil (Qiang)
majandro (Seleucids) v shadowblack (Indo-Greeks)
Gorrick (Graeco-Bactrian) v Sennacherib (Di)
Conaire (Indo-Skythians) v Cunningcairn (Indian)

[stockwellpete]

Second group of fixtures

Division A

Round 4: Kushan (130BC-476AD) v Graeco-Bactrians (250-130BC)
ianiow v Breogan
hidde v edb1815
Lysimachos v TheGrayMouser
schmolywar v Snugglebunnies
Valdavia v stockwellpete

Round 5: Di (200BC-300AD) v Chinese (99BC-23AD)
Breogan v stockwellpete
edb1815 v Snugglebunnies
hidde v Valdavia
ianiow v Lysimachos
TheGrayMouser v schmolywar

Round 6: Pontics (110-85BC) v Bosporans (348-85BC)
TheGrayMouser v Breogan
Valdavia v edb1815
Snugglebunnies v hidde
schmolywar v ianiow
stockwellpete v Lysimachos

Division B

Round 4: Kushan (130BC-476AD) v Graeco-Bactrians (250-130BC)
Gorrick v batesmotel
devoncop v Cunningcairn
majandro v shadowblack
markwatson360 v ahuyton
shawkhan2 v padster

Round 5: Di (200BC-300AD) v Chinese (99BC-23AD)
batesmotel v padster
Cunningcairn v ahuyton
devoncop v shawkhan2
Gorrick v majandro
shadowblack v markwatson360

Round 6: Pontics (110-85BC) v Bosporans (348-85BC)
shadowblack v batesmotel
shawkhan2 v Cunningcairn
ahuyton v devoncop
markwatson360 v Gorrick
padster v majandro

Division C

Round 4: Kushan (130BC-476AD) v Graeco-Bactrians (250-130BC)
GrayNemesis v 76mm
FroBodine v Barrold713
iandavidsmith v Ulysisgrunt
nyczar v simpleninja
ZygfrydeLowe v Trogilus

Round 5: Di (200BC-300AD) v Chinese (99BC-23AD)
76mm v Trogilus
Barrold713 v simpleninja
FroBodine v ZygfrydeLowe
GrayNemesis v iandavidsmith
Ulysisgrunt v nyczar

Round 6: Pontics (110-85BC) v Bosporans (348-85BC)
Ulysisgrunt v 76mm
ZygfrydeLowe v Barrold713
simpleninja v FroBodine
nyczar v GrayNemesis
Trogilus v iandavidsmith

[stockwellpete]

Third group of fixtures

Division A

Round 7: Romans (340-281BC) v Samnites (355-272BC)
Breogan v Valdavia
edb1815 v TheGrayMouser
hidde v schmolywar
ianiow v stockwellpete
Lysimachos v Snugglebunnies

Round 8: Carthage (262-236BC) v Spain (300-100BC)
Lysimachos v Breogan
schmolywar v edb1815
TheGrayMouser v hidde
Valdavia v ianiow
stockwellpete v Snugglebunnies

Round 9: Lydians (550-546BC) v Achaemenid Persians (550-546BC)
Breogan v schmolywar
edb1815 v Lysimachos
TheGrayMouser v stockwellpete
Snugglebunnies v Valdavia
hidde v ianiow

Division B

Round 7: Romans (340-281BC) v Samnites (355-272BC)
batesmotel v shawkhan2
Cunningcairn v shadowblack
devoncop v markwatson360
Gorrick v padster
majandro v ahuyton

Round 8: Carthage (262-236BC) v Spain (300-100BC)
majandro v batesmotel
markwatson360 v Cunningcairn
shadowblack v devoncop
shawkhan2 v Gorrick
padster v ahuyton

Round 9: Lydians (550-546BC) v Achaemenid Persians (550-546BC)
batesmotel v markwatson360
Cunningcairn v majandro
shadowblack v padster
ahuyton v shawkhan2
devoncop v Gorrick

Division C

Round 7: Romans (340-281BC) v Samnites (355-272BC)
76mm v ZygfrydeLowe
Barrold713 v Ulysisgrunt
FroBodine v nyczar
GrayNemesis v Trogilus
iandavidmith v simpleninja

Round 8: Carthage (262-236BC) v Spain (300-100BC)
iandavidsmith v 76mm
nyczar v Barrold713
Ulysisgrunt v FroBodine
ZygfrydeLowe v GrayNemesis
Trogilus v simpleninja

Round 9: Lydians (550-546BC) v Achaemenid Persians (550-546BC)
76mm v nyczar
Barrold713 v iandavidsmith
Ulysisgrunt v Trogilus
simpleninja v ZygfrydeLowe
FroBodine v GrayNemesis

[stockwellpete]

Second round of fixtures

Pool A

Group 1
edb1815 (Antigonids) v shadowblack (Lysimachids)
Lysimachos (Seleucids) v NikiforosFokas (Ptolemaics)

Group 2
rexhurley (Antigonids) v Snugglebunnies (Lysimachids)
schmolywar (Seleucids) v mhladnik (Ptolemaics)

Group 3
stockwellpete (Antigonids) v markwatson360 (Lysimachids)
shawkhan2 (Seleucids) v devoncop (Ptolemaics)

Group 4
ianiow (Antigonids) v Dortmund (Lysimachids)
wolf blitzee (Seleucids) v Valdavia (Ptolemaics)

Pool B

Group 1
Conaire (Antigonids) v stimovsky (Lysimachids)
Ulysisgrunt (Seleucids) v Cunningcairn (Ptolemaics)

Group 2
Trogilus (Antigonids) v SpeedyCM (Lysimachids)
Asterix_von_TWC (Seleucids) v tofman04 (Ptolemaics)

Group 3
Ironclad (Antigonids) v XLegione (Lysimachids)
herm (Seleucids) v simpleninja (Ptolemaics)

Group 4
pbuck777 (Antigonids) v gamercb (Lysimachids)
GrayNemesis (Seleucids) v 76mm (Ptolemaics)

Matches must be completed by 9pm (GMT) February 25.

[stockwellpete]

Third round of fixtures

Pool A

Group 1
NikiforosFokas (Antigonids) v edb1815 (Ptolemaics)
Lysimachos (Lysimachids) v shadowblack (Seleucids)

Group 2
mhladnik (Antigonids) v rexhurley (Ptolemaics)
schmolywar (Lysimachids) v Snugglebunnies (Seleucids)

Group 3
devoncop (Antigonids) v stockwellpete (Ptolemaics)
shawkhan2 (Lysimachids) v markwatson 360 (Seleucids)

Group 4
Valdavia (Antigonids) v ianiow (Ptolemaics)
wolf blitzee (Lysimachids) v Dortmund (Seleucids)

Pool B

Group 1
Cunningcairn (Antigonids) v Conaire (Ptolemaics) - Match awarded to Cunningcairn 40-0, Conaire has withdrawn from the tournament.
Ulysisgrunt (Lysimachids) v stimovsky (Seleucids)

Group 2
tofman04 (Antigonids) v Trogilus (Ptolemaics) - Match awarded to Trogilus 40-0, tofman04 has withdrawn from the tournament.
Asterix_von_TWC (Lysimachids) v SpeedyCM (Seleucids)

Group 3
simpleninja (Antigonids) v Ironclad (Ptolemaics)
herm (Lysimachids) v XLegione (Seleucids)

Group 4
76mm (Antigonids) v pbuck777 (Ptolemaics)
GrayNemesis (Lysimachids) v gamercb (Seleucids)

Matches must be completed by 9pm (GMT) March 8.

[shadowblack]

I'm in the list of Div B players for Classical Indian but not one of the players given an opponent to play. Have I been demoted back to the reserve list? It's ok if I have, but just checking if it's an error.