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Post by Crazygunner1 »

AdmiralSarek wrote:Also have you considered going for organisation reather than industry as the prioty in the last section? Don't you have more than enough PP's now?
I was about to suggest that as well, organisation is more valuable now that you have conquered half the world
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Post by supermax »

Yes, this is a good advice i will change it next turn.

As to air, i am as blaffed as you are... My dogfight research has bene absolutly shitty, despite being a focus since the very start of the game...

ahh well, its not like i did a bad game without a good airforce...

I do not think Pangen will be able to punch thru my lines. This game shall be static till the end, but i am retaining a little hope tha i can re-launch my offensive in 1944 after counter-attaking the Russians in their own inevitable offensive...
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Turn 74 German defensive consolidation

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Post by Clark »

You've achieved all this without Manstein????!??!?! I'm even more amazed.
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Post by afk_nero »

Why not send the Finnish airforce to protect the motherland - if Finland is lost so is the fighter - so even if it goes on suicide missions its worth more than just dying without causing any damage.
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Post by supermax »

Clark wrote:You've achieved all this without Manstein????!??!?! I'm even more amazed.
Well, i might have been sucesseful in my 43 offensive with him on board? Rommel also needs to be produced.

Anyway it proves that you dont really need high HQ to be successeful, i rarely produce Manstein in any of my games, he is too expensive...
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Turn 75 : stalemate

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Post by joerock22 »

I think it's a good idea to try to block the Russian transports, but will it work? Suppoze PanzerGeneral sends 2-3 transports through the Suez Canal at once. Will two of them be blocked or will the magically appear behind your subs? You may want to playtest this to make sure, because I really don't know.
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joerock22 wrote:I think it's a good idea to try to block the Russian transports, but will it work? Suppoze PanzerGeneral sends 2-3 transports through the Suez Canal at once. Will two of them be blocked or will the magically appear behind your subs? You may want to playtest this to make sure, because I really don't know.
I dont know you maybe right... Or i can simply put those subs on patrol on the other side right in the Atlantic, then Pangen wont even have a fighting chances those transports will be without support so i will have all the time in the world to sink them.

Thanks for the imput Joe, the solution i am proposing will do the same, it will block any attemted landings by the russians from this angle. I will produce another sub and maybee a surface unit with the Italians or Germans so it covers the MED as well. Say the 2 FTR + 1 TAC should do the trick to cover every angles. And besides, i do not think Pangen has any intentions of doing anything like that, but you never know, i would be in trouble if i dont plan my defense in such large an area.

Once that's covered, it wont matter any bit if Pangen takes control of the Suez Canal and start grinding his way west into coastal africa. I should be able to defend Finland as well and the Russian front should also be ok
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Post by shawkhan »

I think it is a shame PanzerGeneral doesn't realize the significance of the Destruction of AGC in 1944. He is attacking in the wrong place. As he pushes Supermax back, he makes his line shorter in the South. I can see the Crimea(bombing of Ploesti) but the rest of it is useless terrain. He is doing well in the Middle East but if he hadn't moved all his armor uselessly away he would be much farther along. Hitler did the same thing in the Caucasus campaign, switching an entire army back and forth between Stalingrad and the Caucasus oilfields. Wound up with neither of course. Oh well, I would probably make the same(or different) mistakes in his position.
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shawkhan wrote:I think it is a shame PanzerGeneral doesn't realize the significance of the Destruction of AGC in 1944. He is attacking in the wrong place. As he pushes Supermax back, he makes his line shorter in the South. I can see the Crimea(bombing of Ploesti) but the rest of it is useless terrain. He is doing well in the Middle East but if he hadn't moved all his armor uselessly away he would be much farther along. Hitler did the same thing in the Caucasus campaign, switching an entire army back and forth between Stalingrad and the Caucasus oilfields. Wound up with neither of course. Oh well, I would probably make the same(or different) mistakes in his position.
Well, you may have a point there, but also, remember that he stopped me cold with his defensive strategy and i dont hink that he is ready to go on the offensive yet. That will be for 1944. He produced so many planes that it inevitably doomed my offensive.

As to the Middle East, well, even if he takes the Suez Canal, then what? No ship support he cannot build any to send them there anyway, so once he has the whole of the north African coast, what will he be able to do? Especially since if he stretches himself too thin i will land in is rear anyway... To really get it going in the MED he would need to commit heavily, and he doesnt have the time he needs all his ressources to try to break me in 1944.

And besides, whats make you think he will be able to push me back in Russia? So far all his attempts have been unsuccesseful.
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Post by shawkhan »

Just trying to keep the AAR interesting.
If he was serious about controlling the Med, you are right he could use a navy. With his plethora of forces there, he might even consider invading Turkey to get his navy out into the Med, but of course this is unlikely.
As it is, I think most of us expected Supermax to take Russia out of the war, to achieve the ultimate level of victory probably none of us will ever see now.
What happens if PanzerGeneral declares war on Vichy France? This is something I doubt has ever happened before. I think I will boot up a game and see if it is even possible now.
PanzerGeneral will have to think outside the box if he is to take at least one major capital in this game.
Supermax, you know you have our admiration. I imagine most of us fear to play you, I know I do.
Bon Chance!
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Post by rkr1958 »

shawkhan wrote:With his plethora of forces there, he might even consider invading Turkey to get his navy out into the Med, but of course this is unlikely.
I don't think one Russian BB would have much of a chance against the entire Italian and German navies. In fact, I would think the reverse might be attractive to Supermax. That is, taking out Turkey so he could move the axis fleet into the Black Sea to go after the Russians.
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Post by supermax »

shawkhan wrote:Just trying to keep the AAR interesting.
If he was serious about controlling the Med, you are right he could use a navy. With his plethora of forces there, he might even consider invading Turkey to get his navy out into the Med, but of course this is unlikely.
As it is, I think most of us expected Supermax to take Russia out of the war, to achieve the ultimate level of victory probably none of us will ever see now.
What happens if PanzerGeneral declares war on Vichy France? This is something I doubt has ever happened before. I think I will boot up a game and see if it is even possible now.
PanzerGeneral will have to think outside the box if he is to take at least one major capital in this game.
Supermax, you know you have our admiration. I imagine most of us fear to play you, I know I do.
Bon Chance!
Well, thank you my friend. dont worry about my comments i also like to argue , so you can post as many times as you want i will respond positively or negatively to all of them.

As to a final ultimate victory in taking Moscow, i think it is still possible for the Axis in 1944. I will finally have all my forces in the decisive spot, with PLANES... If i can concentrate my forces for an offensive in the center-Smnolensk area like i am thinking i might do(depending on the winter), i am still within Moscow's reach. If the Luftwaffe had been on the theater in 1943 i would have trounced the russian front, since i broke it up to shreds with no air support.

Ah and Shawkhan, you dont need to fear to play against me, i dont always win. Joerock is in the process of beating me in 2 consecutive games that we are finishing up. Since i am so reckless (i never look at the manpower gauge) and if you are a patient, organized and meticoulous player, you have a good chance of beating me when you take a couple of page off my playbook like Joerock did in those 2 games after me beating him 4 games traight. Now i wont beat him so handily!
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Post by supermax »

rkr1958 wrote:
shawkhan wrote:With his plethora of forces there, he might even consider invading Turkey to get his navy out into the Med, but of course this is unlikely.
I don't think one Russian BB would have much of a chance against the entire Italian and German navies. In fact, I would think the reverse might be attractive to Supermax. That is, taking out Turkey so he could move the axis fleet into the Black Sea to go after the Russians.
Well, if you re-read the AAR, my whole german and my whole italian fleet (except 1 tiny 1 step DD) were consumed in my american offensive... I started production of subs for the med and Atlantic defense because Pangen might start to play with little transports all over the place...

So i have no more naval option, since if i had, yes, Turkey would be on my hitlist...
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turn 76: The germans launch a counter-stroke in the south

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... And show they still have very sharp teeths...

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Turn 77: Serious counter-stroke forming in the south

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Well, i think Pangen tought that the initiative definitively passed on to him... Such was not the case because yes, i retreated, but by a strategic choice, not an absolute obligation...

So now i ah just about to have a major breaktrough on his front, reaching Stalino again... I am taking a big risk launching an offensive so late in the year, but i have a feeling that Pangen isnt prepared for it any bit... And beside if he is busy defensing against my counter-stroke he wont have time to play against the rest of my line.

I fully intend to retreat once its obvious i cannot gain anything from my offensive, but for now i am content to continue to exploit it.

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turn 78 Mud dampers german offensive

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Turn 79 : Zhukov gravely injured!

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The german offensive continues amidst heavy winter snow...

Against all military book concerning severe winter and against all strategist books of CEAW, the german high-command has decided to continue the offensive.

The reasons are the following:

1- Low number of soviet ground troops making sure Pangen could not pound relentlessly on germans onece severe winter hits.
2- Strategic situation too good to pass up... Soviets have lots of planes but remains very weak on the ground. Its time to exploit this since they were weakened by the german summer offensive
3- The german air umbrella has now 8 luftwaffe fighters and 6-7 tacs
4- We cannot, simply CANNOT relegate ourselves to the defensive.

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Post by trulster »

Bold but correct move I think! By crushing the too thin line of units now, you effectively rob him of any efficient winter offensive, especially with Zhukov out of action.
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