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Re: TDC II - Dark Ages 600 - 1000 AD - Posting entries and army choices. With army choices from previous season
Adding myself to make three divsions of 10
I will be playing Khorasanian 821-1003 with Arab (Abbasid) 815 - 835AD Allies
I will be playing Khorasanian 821-1003 with Arab (Abbasid) 815 - 835AD Allies
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edb1815
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Re: TDC Imperial - Challenges
Division B
edb1815 (Gogureyo) challenges Bagatrix1805 (Roman)
Match set up and PM sent
Psw in PM
GAME STARTED
edb1815 (Gogureyo) challenges Bagatrix1805 (Roman)
Match set up and PM sent
Psw in PM
GAME STARTED
Last edited by edb1815 on Sun Jul 10, 2022 3:06 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Re: TDC - Classical - Arranging Matches
DIV C
mh5064 Antigonids 320-301 BC with Greek 460-280 BC challenges Sawyerk Lysimachid 30-281 BC with Thracian 350-281 BC
match is up
pm sent
password 2345
GAME STARTED
Sorry I posted in the wrong section. DO NOT POST HERE there's another section for TDC2 challenges.
mh5064 Antigonids 320-301 BC with Greek 460-280 BC challenges Sawyerk Lysimachid 30-281 BC with Thracian 350-281 BC
match is up
pm sent
password 2345
GAME STARTED
Sorry I posted in the wrong section. DO NOT POST HERE there's another section for TDC2 challenges.
Last edited by mh5064 on Wed Jul 06, 2022 10:59 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Re: TDC - Classical - Arranging Matches
DIV C
mh5064 Antigonids 320-301 BC with Greek 460-280 BC challenges tmac11 Pyrrhic 280-275 BC with Samnite 355-272BC
match is up
pm sent
password 1111
Sorry I posted in the wrong section. DO NOT POST HERE there's another section for TDC2 challenges.
mh5064 Antigonids 320-301 BC with Greek 460-280 BC challenges tmac11 Pyrrhic 280-275 BC with Samnite 355-272BC
match is up
pm sent
password 1111
Sorry I posted in the wrong section. DO NOT POST HERE there's another section for TDC2 challenges.
Last edited by mh5064 on Wed Jul 06, 2022 11:00 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Re: TDC - Classical - Arranging Matches
DIV C
mh5064 Antigonids 320-301 BC with Greek 460-280 BC challenges gfs26 Uratian 681-585 with Cimmerian
match is up
pm sent
password 3333
Sorry I posted in the wrong section. DO NOT POST HERE there's another section for TDC2 challenges.
mh5064 Antigonids 320-301 BC with Greek 460-280 BC challenges gfs26 Uratian 681-585 with Cimmerian
match is up
pm sent
password 3333
Sorry I posted in the wrong section. DO NOT POST HERE there's another section for TDC2 challenges.
TDC III - Dark Ages - Challenges
Thanks very much for entering - The Divisional Championships III (TDC III)
Dark Ages is open for challenges
We expect all players to know and understand the rules and to accept them.
Please read the rules - https://www.slitherine.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=107984
During the competition, please contact your opponent and the person running the period if you are going to be delayed. Failure to do so could lead to the game being claimed by your opponent and for you to be replaced by a reserve.
When issuing challenges please make sure you are using the correct format.
For Dark Ages, open, potluck, 24 turns, 36W x 32H maps and 1400 points.
Issuing challenges for Dark Ages use the format of “Names, Armies, confirm match created, confirm personal message sent, list password.”
For example:
"tyronec Arab (Umayyad) 685-750 challenges ericdoman1 Byzantine 963-987 with Arab (Syria and Iraq) allies 890-1008; match is up, personal message sent, and password is.... havefun". Don’t forget to send that PM!
To make it easier for players to know they have received a challenge: Go to top right. Click on Notifications, then settings and tick all boxes or most appropriate ones.
This is not compulsory, but it might be worth editing your match challenge post with the phrase: “game started” - doing so will help the organizers keep track of how things are progressing.
Enjoy and have a "chat" with your opponent. You may have quite a lot in common.
Good luck all - divisions below
Div A
tyronec Andalusian
Aetius39 Frankish 751-887 w/ Saxon allies
ericdoman1 Sassanid Persian 591 - 628 AD with Arab Bedouin
Rosedelio Viking (900 - 1049 ACE) w French Allies * replacement player*
BobGanoush Arab(Abbasid) 874-946 with Arab(Syrian) allies
carpenkm Arab Conquest 638
Triarii French (888-1049) with Viking
markleslie German 933-1049 AD with Polish
Garokan German 888 + Magyar
random27 khorasanian 821-1003 AD + ghaznavid allies
Div B
Rob123 Arab Conquest 638
Bagatrix1805 German 933-1049 with polish allies
Najanaja Byzantine 963-987AD + Armenian
frederic02 Indians/North Hindus with Rajput allies
Hari72 Dailami 928-1055-+ Khorasan
Morat French 888-1049 w Norman allies
grahamed Sassanid 591-628
angusosborne Vikings (Ireland) 900-1049 with Scots allies
Badger73 Norman 923-1049 AD with French
IMC Frankish 751-887 w Viking
Div C
mh5064 FRENCH 888-1049 AD with VIKING
anderarcos11 Khazars 738-969 AD
gort7078 Frankish 751-887 w Lombards
mberisso Rus 960-1053 AD allied Pecheneg
ulysisgrunt Andalusian 756-1049 with Spanish allies
Ironclad Magyar 830 - 1049 AD
Trueknight Byzantine 600-649
Yinsd00 Arab (Umayyad) 685-750 AD
phlewis Dabuyid 642 - 760 AD
Afromullet Irish 900-1049 AD with Viking
Dark Ages is open for challenges
We expect all players to know and understand the rules and to accept them.
Please read the rules - https://www.slitherine.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=107984
During the competition, please contact your opponent and the person running the period if you are going to be delayed. Failure to do so could lead to the game being claimed by your opponent and for you to be replaced by a reserve.
When issuing challenges please make sure you are using the correct format.
For Dark Ages, open, potluck, 24 turns, 36W x 32H maps and 1400 points.
Issuing challenges for Dark Ages use the format of “Names, Armies, confirm match created, confirm personal message sent, list password.”
For example:
"tyronec Arab (Umayyad) 685-750 challenges ericdoman1 Byzantine 963-987 with Arab (Syria and Iraq) allies 890-1008; match is up, personal message sent, and password is.... havefun". Don’t forget to send that PM!
To make it easier for players to know they have received a challenge: Go to top right. Click on Notifications, then settings and tick all boxes or most appropriate ones.
This is not compulsory, but it might be worth editing your match challenge post with the phrase: “game started” - doing so will help the organizers keep track of how things are progressing.
Enjoy and have a "chat" with your opponent. You may have quite a lot in common.
Good luck all - divisions below
Div A
tyronec Andalusian
Aetius39 Frankish 751-887 w/ Saxon allies
ericdoman1 Sassanid Persian 591 - 628 AD with Arab Bedouin
Rosedelio Viking (900 - 1049 ACE) w French Allies * replacement player*
BobGanoush Arab(Abbasid) 874-946 with Arab(Syrian) allies
carpenkm Arab Conquest 638
Triarii French (888-1049) with Viking
markleslie German 933-1049 AD with Polish
Garokan German 888 + Magyar
random27 khorasanian 821-1003 AD + ghaznavid allies
Div B
Rob123 Arab Conquest 638
Bagatrix1805 German 933-1049 with polish allies
Najanaja Byzantine 963-987AD + Armenian
frederic02 Indians/North Hindus with Rajput allies
Hari72 Dailami 928-1055-+ Khorasan
Morat French 888-1049 w Norman allies
grahamed Sassanid 591-628
angusosborne Vikings (Ireland) 900-1049 with Scots allies
Badger73 Norman 923-1049 AD with French
IMC Frankish 751-887 w Viking
Div C
mh5064 FRENCH 888-1049 AD with VIKING
anderarcos11 Khazars 738-969 AD
gort7078 Frankish 751-887 w Lombards
mberisso Rus 960-1053 AD allied Pecheneg
ulysisgrunt Andalusian 756-1049 with Spanish allies
Ironclad Magyar 830 - 1049 AD
Trueknight Byzantine 600-649
Yinsd00 Arab (Umayyad) 685-750 AD
phlewis Dabuyid 642 - 760 AD
Afromullet Irish 900-1049 AD with Viking
TDC II - Dark Ages - Post Results
The winner please post results as
Division C
ulysisgrunt Normans defeated IMC French 60:52
We will add the actual score (68-52) to the table.
Adding a brief description of the battle is always a nice touch
See the rules link viewtopic.php?f=683&t=107984
For those who want it the text version of the armies is below:
Division A
tyronec Arab (Umayyad) 685-750
ericdoman1 Byzantine 963-987 with Arab (Syria and Iraq) allies 890-1008
Dreddradish Indian (Hindu north) 600 - 1049 CE
Zawzgrzyt Andalusian 756-1049
BobGanoush Byzantine 904-962 with Croatian allies
carpenkm Khorasanian 821-1003 with Arab (Abbasid) 815 - 835AD Allies
Challenge1 Arab (Conquest) 638-684 AD
random27 Byzantin 600-649 + Sassanid Persian allies
snooky51 Dailami (928-1055 AD) w/ Armenian 885-1045 AD allies
Karvon Arab Conquest 629 AD
Division B
Kroche Frankish 751-887AD w Saxon (Continental) 600-804AD allies
lydianed Anglo Saxon 950-1016 and Viking Allies
Triarii German 933-1049 with Polish 966-1057 allies
Rob123 Byzantine 963-987AD with Arab (Syria/Iraq) 890-1008AD allies
Bagatrix1805 Arab conquest 638-684
frederic02 Byzantins 942-962 No allies
rpadilla1988 Byzantine 988 - 1041
mr cholo Dailami 928-1055-+ Khorasan 821-1003
Vadim84 Polish 966 with Viking allies
mcfcivo Andalusian 756 - 1049AD Allies - Spanish 900-1049AD
Division C
Morat Frankish 751-887 w Viking 790-899 allies
mh5064 GERMAN 933-1049 AD with FRENCH 888-1049
Badger73 Polish 966-1057 AD with Russ 960-1053 AD allies.
IMC French 888-1049 with Viking 790-899 allies
ulysisgrunt Normans 923-1040 with French allies 888-1049
Afromullet Arab (Umayyad) 685-750 AD
phlewis German 888-932 AD
Dragmio Armenian 885-1045 AD
anderarcos 11 Viking (Ireland) 900-1049 AC
Fluidwill Byzantine 904-962
Division C
ulysisgrunt Normans defeated IMC French 60:52
We will add the actual score (68-52) to the table.
Adding a brief description of the battle is always a nice touch
See the rules link viewtopic.php?f=683&t=107984
For those who want it the text version of the armies is below:
Division A
tyronec Arab (Umayyad) 685-750
ericdoman1 Byzantine 963-987 with Arab (Syria and Iraq) allies 890-1008
Dreddradish Indian (Hindu north) 600 - 1049 CE
Zawzgrzyt Andalusian 756-1049
BobGanoush Byzantine 904-962 with Croatian allies
carpenkm Khorasanian 821-1003 with Arab (Abbasid) 815 - 835AD Allies
Challenge1 Arab (Conquest) 638-684 AD
random27 Byzantin 600-649 + Sassanid Persian allies
snooky51 Dailami (928-1055 AD) w/ Armenian 885-1045 AD allies
Karvon Arab Conquest 629 AD
Division B
Kroche Frankish 751-887AD w Saxon (Continental) 600-804AD allies
lydianed Anglo Saxon 950-1016 and Viking Allies
Triarii German 933-1049 with Polish 966-1057 allies
Rob123 Byzantine 963-987AD with Arab (Syria/Iraq) 890-1008AD allies
Bagatrix1805 Arab conquest 638-684
frederic02 Byzantins 942-962 No allies
rpadilla1988 Byzantine 988 - 1041
mr cholo Dailami 928-1055-+ Khorasan 821-1003
Vadim84 Polish 966 with Viking allies
mcfcivo Andalusian 756 - 1049AD Allies - Spanish 900-1049AD
Division C
Morat Frankish 751-887 w Viking 790-899 allies
mh5064 GERMAN 933-1049 AD with FRENCH 888-1049
Badger73 Polish 966-1057 AD with Russ 960-1053 AD allies.
IMC French 888-1049 with Viking 790-899 allies
ulysisgrunt Normans 923-1040 with French allies 888-1049
Afromullet Arab (Umayyad) 685-750 AD
phlewis German 888-932 AD
Dragmio Armenian 885-1045 AD
anderarcos 11 Viking (Ireland) 900-1049 AC
Fluidwill Byzantine 904-962
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ericdoman1
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Re: TDC II - Western Medieval: 1000 AD - 1500 AD Issue Challenges
Division A
ericdoman1 Andalusian (Murcia) 1155 - 1172
Challenges
Lennard Berber (Murabit) 1087-1147 with Andalusian 1050-1154 allies. pw = lennard
A reroll
ericdoman1 Andalusian (Murcia) 1155 - 1172
Challenges
Lennard Berber (Murabit) 1087-1147 with Andalusian 1050-1154 allies. pw = lennard
A reroll
We should all Stand With Ukraine.

Re: TDC II - Eastern Medieval: 1000 AD - 1500 AD Challenges
DIV B
mh5064 Byzantine 1155-1204 AD with Crusaders 1155-1291 AD challenges frederic02 Byzantine (Nikaia) 1205-1261 AD
match is up
pm sent
password 0202
GAME STARTED
mh5064 Byzantine 1155-1204 AD with Crusaders 1155-1291 AD challenges frederic02 Byzantine (Nikaia) 1205-1261 AD
match is up
pm sent
password 0202
GAME STARTED
Last edited by mh5064 on Fri Jul 08, 2022 5:42 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Re: TDC II - Eastern Medieval: 1000 AD - 1500 AD Challenges
DIV B
mh5064 Byzantine 1155-1204 AD with Crusaders 1155-1291 AD challenges rpadilla1988 Crusaders 1155-1291
match is up
pm sent
password 1988
GAME STARTED
mh5064 Byzantine 1155-1204 AD with Crusaders 1155-1291 AD challenges rpadilla1988 Crusaders 1155-1291
match is up
pm sent
password 1988
GAME STARTED
Last edited by mh5064 on Sun Jul 10, 2022 3:37 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Re: TDC II - Eastern Medieval: 1000 AD - 1500 AD Challenges
DIV B
mh5064 Byzantine 1155-1204 AD with Crusaders 1155-1291 AD challenges IMC Ayyubid Egyptian 1172-1250 AD with Khwarazmian 1232-1246 AD
match is up
pm sent
password 5678
GAME STARTED
mh5064 Byzantine 1155-1204 AD with Crusaders 1155-1291 AD challenges IMC Ayyubid Egyptian 1172-1250 AD with Khwarazmian 1232-1246 AD
match is up
pm sent
password 5678
GAME STARTED
Last edited by mh5064 on Sun Jul 10, 2022 3:36 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Re: TDC Classical - Season 2 Challenges
DIV C
mh5064 Antigonids 320-301 BC with Greek 460-280 BC challenges Sawyerk Lysimachid 30-281 BC with Thracian 350-281 BC
match is up
pm sent
password 2345
GAME STARTED
mh5064 Antigonids 320-301 BC with Greek 460-280 BC challenges Sawyerk Lysimachid 30-281 BC with Thracian 350-281 BC
match is up
pm sent
password 2345
GAME STARTED
Re: TDC Classical - Season 2 Challenges
DIV C
mh5064 Antigonids 320-301 BC with Greek 460-280 BC challenges tmac11 Pyrrhic 280-275 BC with Samnite 355-272BC
match is up
pm sent
password 1111
GAME STARTED
mh5064 Antigonids 320-301 BC with Greek 460-280 BC challenges tmac11 Pyrrhic 280-275 BC with Samnite 355-272BC
match is up
pm sent
password 1111
GAME STARTED
Last edited by mh5064 on Fri Jul 08, 2022 5:41 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Re: TDC Classical - Season 2 Challenges
DIV C
mh5064 Antigonids 320-301 BC with Greek 460-280 BC challenges gfs26 Uratian 681-585 with Cimmerian
match is up
pm sent
password 3333
GAME STARTED
mh5064 Antigonids 320-301 BC with Greek 460-280 BC challenges gfs26 Uratian 681-585 with Cimmerian
match is up
pm sent
password 3333
GAME STARTED
Last edited by mh5064 on Fri Jul 08, 2022 5:41 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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wellsonian
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Re: TDC Classical - Season 2 Challenges
DIV C
wellsonian...Roman with Numidian/moorish allies challenges ulysisgrunt ... Samnites 355-272 with Gallic Allies
Good luck!
pm sent
password Samnite
GAME STARTED
wellsonian...Roman with Numidian/moorish allies challenges ulysisgrunt ... Samnites 355-272 with Gallic Allies
Good luck!
pm sent
password Samnite
GAME STARTED
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ericdoman1
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Re: TDC II - Eastern Medieval: 1000 AD - 1500 AD Challenges
Division A
ericdoman1 Dailami 928 - 1055 with Khorasanian allies 821 - 1003
challenges
Triarii Neapolitan 1440-1500 with Venetian 1440-1500 allies - pw = triarii
edb1815 Bohemian Catholic 1450-1500 with Hungarian ally - pw = edb1815
GraftMalt Venetian 1440 - 1500 with Neapolitan 1443-1500 Allies - pw = graftmalt
Also sent by pm
ericdoman1 Dailami 928 - 1055 with Khorasanian allies 821 - 1003
challenges
Triarii Neapolitan 1440-1500 with Venetian 1440-1500 allies - pw = triarii
edb1815 Bohemian Catholic 1450-1500 with Hungarian ally - pw = edb1815
GraftMalt Venetian 1440 - 1500 with Neapolitan 1443-1500 Allies - pw = graftmalt
Also sent by pm
We should all Stand With Ukraine.

Re: TDC II - Western Medieval: 1000 AD - 1500 AD Issue Challenges
Div B
oscarius (Florentine 1424 AD) challenges:
Kroche Aragonese 1450-1479AD
Triarii Danish 1488-1500 with German (Feudal) 1490-1500 allies
edb1815 Milanese 1440-1500
Jtrillodmp Castilian 1476-1492
pw: pizza
PMs sent
oscarius (Florentine 1424 AD) challenges:
Kroche Aragonese 1450-1479AD
Triarii Danish 1488-1500 with German (Feudal) 1490-1500 allies
edb1815 Milanese 1440-1500
Jtrillodmp Castilian 1476-1492
pw: pizza
PMs sent
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angusosborne
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Re: TDC Classical - Season 2 Challenges
Division D
angusosborne Thracian (Getai) 279BC-46AD with Greek 227-146 Allies challenges Fluidwill Macedonian 328-321
PM sent
Password is classic
Game started
angusosborne Thracian (Getai) 279BC-46AD with Greek 227-146 Allies challenges Fluidwill Macedonian 328-321
PM sent
Password is classic
Game started
Last edited by angusosborne on Mon Jul 11, 2022 6:52 am, edited 2 times in total.
Administrator of World Team Championship and TDC VIII Classical, Ever Green League Usurper (EGL 300 BC, EGL 900 AD, EGL 1240 AD)
Winner TDC III Dark Ages Division B
Winner TDC III Dark Ages Division B
Re: TDC II - Dark Ages - Divisions/Armies - Issue Challenges
for convenience here are the Divisions and Armies in text format:
For those who want it the text version of the armies is below:
Division A
tyronec Arab (Umayyad) 685-750
ericdoman1 Byzantine 963-987 with Arab (Syria and Iraq) allies 890-1008
Dreddradish Indian (Hindu north) 600 - 1049 CE
Zawzgrzyt Andalusian 756-1049
BobGanoush Byzantine 904-962 with Croatian allies
carpenkm Khorasanian 821-1003 with Arab (Abbasid) 815 - 835AD Allies
Challenge1 Arab (Conquest) 638-684 AD
random27 Byzantin 600-649 + Sassanid Persian allies
snooky51 Dailami (928-1055 AD) w/ Armenian 885-1045 AD allies
Karvon Arab Conquest 629 AD
Division B
Kroche Frankish 751-887AD w Saxon (Continental) 600-804AD allies
lydianed Anglo Saxon 950-1016 and Viking Allies
Triarii German 933-1049 with Polish 966-1057 allies
Rob123 Byzantine 963-987AD with Arab (Syria/Iraq) 890-1008AD allies
Bagatrix1805 Arab conquest 638-684
frederic02 Byzantins 942-962 No allies
rpadilla1988 Byzantine 988 - 1041
mr cholo Dailami 928-1055-+ Khorasan 821-1003
Vadim84 Polish 966 with Viking allies
mcfcivo Andalusian 756 - 1049AD Allies - Spanish 900-1049AD
Division C
Morat Frankish 751-887 w Viking 790-899 allies
mh5064 GERMAN 933-1049 AD with FRENCH 888-1049
Badger73 Polish 966-1057 AD with Russ 960-1053 AD allies.
IMC French 888-1049 with Viking 790-899 allies
ulysisgrunt Normans 923-1040 with French allies 888-1049
Afromullet Arab (Umayyad) 685-750 AD
phlewis German 888-932 AD
Dragmio Armenian 885-1045 AD
anderarcos 11 Viking (Ireland) 900-1049 AC
Fluidwill Byzantine 904-962
For those who want it the text version of the armies is below:
Division A
tyronec Arab (Umayyad) 685-750
ericdoman1 Byzantine 963-987 with Arab (Syria and Iraq) allies 890-1008
Dreddradish Indian (Hindu north) 600 - 1049 CE
Zawzgrzyt Andalusian 756-1049
BobGanoush Byzantine 904-962 with Croatian allies
carpenkm Khorasanian 821-1003 with Arab (Abbasid) 815 - 835AD Allies
Challenge1 Arab (Conquest) 638-684 AD
random27 Byzantin 600-649 + Sassanid Persian allies
snooky51 Dailami (928-1055 AD) w/ Armenian 885-1045 AD allies
Karvon Arab Conquest 629 AD
Division B
Kroche Frankish 751-887AD w Saxon (Continental) 600-804AD allies
lydianed Anglo Saxon 950-1016 and Viking Allies
Triarii German 933-1049 with Polish 966-1057 allies
Rob123 Byzantine 963-987AD with Arab (Syria/Iraq) 890-1008AD allies
Bagatrix1805 Arab conquest 638-684
frederic02 Byzantins 942-962 No allies
rpadilla1988 Byzantine 988 - 1041
mr cholo Dailami 928-1055-+ Khorasan 821-1003
Vadim84 Polish 966 with Viking allies
mcfcivo Andalusian 756 - 1049AD Allies - Spanish 900-1049AD
Division C
Morat Frankish 751-887 w Viking 790-899 allies
mh5064 GERMAN 933-1049 AD with FRENCH 888-1049
Badger73 Polish 966-1057 AD with Russ 960-1053 AD allies.
IMC French 888-1049 with Viking 790-899 allies
ulysisgrunt Normans 923-1040 with French allies 888-1049
Afromullet Arab (Umayyad) 685-750 AD
phlewis German 888-932 AD
Dragmio Armenian 885-1045 AD
anderarcos 11 Viking (Ireland) 900-1049 AC
Fluidwill Byzantine 904-962
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Re: TDC - Classical - Arranging Matches
Hello, I don't understand why the pyrrhic army has been assigned to me if it is not among my chosen options.
Roman 105-25 BC
Seleucid 166-125 BC
Macedonian 360-261 BC
Roman 105-25 BC
Seleucid 166-125 BC
Macedonian 360-261 BC


