What do Panzer Corps veterans feel about PzC2?

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Re: What do Panzer Corps veterans feel about PzC2?

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Rudankort wrote: Sun May 10, 2020 4:43 pm In theory, we could provide an option to always revert units to default angle (profile?) after every action. It won't make units as easy to recognize as in Panzer Corps (because of a more top-down perspective), but it might help somewhat. Would you guys use such an option if it was available?

2D strategic mode which exists now is an equivalent of strategic mode in PzC. So yes, it is not as playable as tactical map in PzC. Making a 2D mode similar to Panzer Corps is on the wish list and might happen at some point, but it's a lot of work and not top priority right now.
Would a 2D mode be easier on processors? If so, I would use it exclusively. The laptop I use to play this barely meets the requirement and struggles mightily. I think that the extreme sluggishness is severely hurting my enjoyment of this game.
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Re: What do Panzer Corps veterans feel about PzC2?

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PoorOldSpike wrote: Sun May 10, 2020 4:49 pm
Retributarr wrote: Sun May 10, 2020 4:06 pm ..the difficulty of seeing/or recognition of Aircraft in 3D..
But toggling 'Air Mode' like this helps us see them better-
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How exactly do I or can I "Toggle Air-Mode"?.
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Re: What do Panzer Corps veterans feel about PzC2?

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Retributarr wrote: Thu May 14, 2020 7:02 pm How exactly do I or can I "Toggle Air-Mode"?.
Its the button with an up arrow and down arrow - located on the right hand panel just above the mini map. 3rd button down I think.
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Re: What do Panzer Corps veterans feel about PzC2?

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Horseman wrote: Thu May 14, 2020 7:07 pm
Retributarr wrote: Thu May 14, 2020 7:02 pm How exactly do I or can I "Toggle Air-Mode"?.
Its the button with an up arrow and down arrow - located on the right hand panel just above the mini map. 3rd button down I think.
"Thank-You" so much for your "speedy reply"!!!. :D
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Re: What do Panzer Corps veterans feel about PzC2?

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"SPAIN!!!"... 'Alternate WWII Start':
Could we not have an 'Option' to begin WWII in 'Spain' instead of 'Poland'?.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_in ... _Civil_War
German involvement in the Spanish Civil War
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German involvement in the Spanish Civil War commenced with the outbreak of war in July 1936, with Adolf HitlerImage immediately sending in powerful air and armored units to assist General FranciscoImage Franco and his Nationalist forces. The Soviet Union sent in smaller forces to assist the Republican government, while Britain and France and two dozen other countries set up an embargo on any munitions or soldiers into Spain. Nazi Germany also signed the embargo but simply ignored it.[citation needed

The war provided combat experience with the latest technology for the German military. However, the intervention also posed the risk of escalating into a world war for which Hitler was not ready. He therefore limited his aid, and instead encouraged Mussolini to send in large Fascist Italian Image units. Franco's Nationalists were victorious; he remained officially neutral in the Second World War, but helped the Axis in various ways from 1940 to 1943, even offering to join the war on 19 June 1940 in exchange for help building Spain's colonial empire.[2] The Spanish episode lasted three years and was a smaller-scale prelude to the world war which broke out in 1939.

Nazi support for General Franco was motivated by several factors, including as a distraction from Hitler's central European strategy, and the creation of a Spanish state friendly to Germany to threaten France. It further provided an opportunity to train men and test equipment and tactics.

Images of WWII German Condor Legion in Spain
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The Messerschmitt Bf 109C-4 serving in the Condor Legion
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Retributarr wrote: Thu May 14, 2020 7:10 pm
Horseman wrote: Thu May 14, 2020 7:07 pm
Retributarr wrote: Thu May 14, 2020 7:02 pm How exactly do I or can I "Toggle Air-Mode"?.
Its the button with an up arrow and down arrow - located on the right hand panel just above the mini map. 3rd button down I think.
"Thank-You" so much for your "speedy reply"!!!. :D
That or TAB key, much more faster 8)
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Re: What do Panzer Corps veterans feel about PzC2?

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Akkula wrote: Fri May 15, 2020 1:31 am
Retributarr wrote: Thu May 14, 2020 7:10 pm
Horseman wrote: Thu May 14, 2020 7:07 pm

Its the button with an up arrow and down arrow - located on the right hand panel just above the mini map. 3rd button down I think.
"Thank-You" so much for your "speedy reply"!!!. :D
That or TAB key, much more faster 8)
There's a hot key for it? Thanks for sharing!
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Re: What do Panzer Corps veterans feel about PzC2?

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Horseman wrote: Fri May 15, 2020 8:12 am There's a hot key for it? Thanks for sharing!
Hint: hotkeys for buttons are usually listed in tooltips which appear when you hover those buttons.
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Rudankort wrote: Fri May 15, 2020 9:21 am
Horseman wrote: Fri May 15, 2020 8:12 am There's a hot key for it? Thanks for sharing!
Hint: hotkeys for buttons are usually listed in tooltips which appear when you hover those buttons.
:oops:
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Re: What do Panzer Corps veterans feel about PzC2?

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It would be nice to actually play the game. I bought the download and hard copy but the download will not run at all. Patiently waiting on the hard copy to see if it will work from that.
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Re: What do Panzer Corps veterans feel about PzC2?

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I have played PC for many many years and really want to like this game, but just cant get past the blurry feeling after a movement and the units being so hard to differentiate, also the overview is just off in some weird unexplainable way.

Gave it another go today, but just had to quit again.

Noticed another thing, how come airunits dont get minimixed when selecting the groundunit underneath it? Units are hard enough to tell apart without an airunit above it. Maybe theres a fix, setting or switch for this, but toggling airmode doesn´t help when I need to get to the ground unit.

I´m very sad to say, but I regret buying it.
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"by WarHomer:"
"how come air-units don't get minimized when selecting the ground unit underneath it? Units are hard enough to tell apart without an air-unit above it".

Retributarr reply:
Yes!... this issue "definitely needs to be addressed/corrected".
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Re: What do Panzer Corps veterans feel about PzC2?

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WarHomer wrote: Sat May 16, 2020 5:38 amI´m very sad to say, but I regret buying it.
Same, at now. Let's hope for patches.
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ErissN6 wrote: Sun May 17, 2020 8:34 pm
WarHomer wrote: Sat May 16, 2020 5:38 amI´m very sad to say, but I regret buying it.
Same, at now. Let's hope for patches.
Granted... the 'Pzc2' Game is not perfect! {Yet}. For a moment in time... I too was dismayed and dissapointed.

This situation is similar to when the Tiger I & Panthers first came out onto the scene. Engine Failures, Underpowered Functionality, Mechanical Gear-Box Component and Operation Issues. Sometimes these tanks would only go a 100 meters or so... and then die on the spot. The maintenance crews would then have to quickly step in to fix the problem.

With this Game also, only time will heal the wounds, so... step by step, brick by brick as it were... it will be refined and polished. I'm not aware of any other "Entity" taking on such a "foreboding herculean task" such as this Game is... or has proven to be.
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I respect everyone's opinions on this game, some love it, some are disappointed, but I think that is true of most games. I think the number of those who love it will greatly increase once they release the Grand Campaigns, which I bet will address a number of issues with the game. Also, a big issue for this game will be whether they improve the modibility of this game. Right now, no one has figured out how to link their scenarios to create a campaign, and there are only a handful of created scenarios available from some highly skilled and dedicated modders. At this point, I am still a big fan of the changes.
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Now!!!... that the 'Proclamation.' of 'The Spanish-Civil-War'... is out... its now more urgent to include...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italian_m ... n_in_Spain

Italian military intervention in Spain:
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The conquest of Ethiopia in the Second Italo-Abyssinian War made Italy confident in its power, Benito Mussolini joined the war to secure Fascist control of the Mediterranean.
'Ultimately' Italy supplied machine guns, artillery, aircraft, tankettes... A TKS tankette in the Polish Army Museum Image., the Aviazione Legionaria Savoia-Marchetti SM.81 on a bombing raid Image , and the Corpo Truppe Volontarie (CTV) Corps of Volunteer Troops to the Nationalist cause. Image The Italian CTV would, at its peak, supply the Nationalists with 70,000 men.[2] Italian warships took part in breaking the Republican navy's blockade of Nationalist-held Spanish Morocco and took part in naval bombardment of Republican-held Málaga, Valencia, and Barcelona.

In 1938 Italian planes carried out most of the large-scale bombing operations, striking the cities of Barcelona Bombing in Barcelona, 1938 Image., Alicante, Granollers, and Valencia, as well as the railway stations of Sant Vicenç de Calders

In total, Italy provided the Nationalists with 660 planes, 150 tanks, 800 artillery pieces, 10,000 machine guns, and 240,000 rifles.
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I can confirm the Italian CTV are present in the Spanish Civil War. Players have temporary access to Italian units in a supporting role for the length of the campaign.

Uniquely enough, the Italians bring something really important to the Spanish Civil War that the Germans didn't: infantry.
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Re: What do Panzer Corps veterans feel about PzC2?

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Kerensky wrote: Tue Jun 09, 2020 6:41 pm Uniquely enough, the Italians bring something really important to the Spanish Civil War that the Germans didn't: infantry.
:cry:

Hmm , time for some role - play , head - cannon type stuff ! :wink:

I sent batches of men from my Hessian Life Guards Division to Spain as observers , stand - around - advisors , or simply on vacation.

And that's how the tankers , infantry , and artillery of the Hessian Life Guards Division wound up sporting the beautiful red and gold Spanien Cuff title !

Problem solved ! :mrgreen:
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Re: What do Panzer Corps veterans feel about PzC2?

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WarHomer wrote: Sat May 16, 2020 5:38 am I have played PC for many many years and really want to like this game, but just cant get past the blurry feeling after a movement and the units being so hard to differentiate, also the overview is just off in some weird unexplainable way. Gave it another go today, but just had to quit again. I´m very sad to say, but I regret buying it.
I can sympathise with that, although I have warmed to it after several hours play. I think for some of us it just takes time to adapt and accept this game is in many ways superior to the original. Why not persevere?!
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Re: What do Panzer Corps veterans feel about PzC2?

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WarHomer wrote: Sat May 16, 2020 5:38 am the units being so hard to differentiate
I cannot , in good faith , contradict this. I have heard this complaint so many times now , from so many different people , the inescapable conclusion must be that there is substance to the complaint.

......

Except that I have no trouble telling the difference between an Me 109 , and a Ju 87 , between a Marder and a Wespe , between Pioniere and Gebirgjager , at a glance , without zooming in. I don't have great eyesight , and I'm not particularly smart.

So I'm guessing it's a mystery . :?: And I'm not sure what can be done about a mystery. :(
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