GJS'44 Campaign Main Thread - Final June 16th 1944 Tournamen

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Re: GJS'44 - D-Day - June 11th - Battles raging

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jcb989 wrote:Rauray is out there too, with our fine Allied forces about to also be dissolved there because of lack of retreat lines. Not really sure where to fit all the stuffing in the turkey of Normandy to provide all BG's with lines of retreat. Besides, old Winston said retreat was not an option.
You don't need to land all your BG's when they become available:
3.5 Commanders may choose to hold BGs in reserve, even though they have become available. These BGs will remain available "off map" until they are deployed.
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Re: GJS'44 - D-Day - June 11th - Battles raging

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jcb989 wrote:
cavehobbit wrote:
LandMarine47 wrote:Can i get something clarified? How is the 5/AL retreating into a German occupied territory? In real life the last thing a retreating force would want to is head towards an supposedly occupied sector. Even if no ones there its rather weird. Unless we are using Panzer Corps rules, this move makes no sense militarily...... Then again i now control Caen even when i was heavily outnumbered and outgunned so i shouldnt be bringing it up
5AL/6 is not retreating into a German occupied territory. With the very complex situation in and around Caen, and also affected by the battle in Bois, I've placed 5AL/6 on the border of Caen/Colombelles until the battle in Bois has ended. If you look in the order list you can see that 5AL/6 moves through Caen before I/12/12SS attacks the city. But 5AL/6 moves after 26/12SS in Colombelles, but 26/12SS can't move until the battle in Bois has ended. That is why the map looks a bit strange.
Cavehobbit if you decide we should review this situation with retreat or dissolution of 6Al/6 let me know in PM. I don't want to accidentally compromise any existing rules.
Well they should be dissolved, because they are retreating to a German unoccupied sector. The 1/79 could have done this and gone to Putot but they didn't. That's just my view on the situation
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Re: GJS'44 - D-Day - June 11th - Battles raging

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LM, which BG would be dissolved and why? 5AL/6 or 6AL/6? I'm a bit confused… :?
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Re: GJS'44 - D-Day - June 11th - Battles raging

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The one that just left Caen.
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Re: GJS'44 - D-Day - June 11th - Battles raging

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6AL/6 could withdraw to Cagny because this sector was free and controlled by the Allies. Cagny was captured by the Allies last day by 45/RM. This day (June 13th) 45/RM moved away from Cagny before the battle in Caen, therefore it was free for 6AL/6 to withdraw to.
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Re: GJS'44 - D-Day - June 11th - Battles raging

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Ok thanks for the clarification :)
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Re: GJS'44 - D-Day - June 11th - Battles raging

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One turn left in Rauray...
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Re: GJS'44 - D-Day - June 11th - Battles raging

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Cave and JCB...

While playing the recent turn in Tilly...my BA crashed. I had to restart and played the turn exactly up until the crash.

Just wanted to let you know
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Re: GJS'44 - D-Day - June 11th - Battles raging

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morge4 wrote:Cave and JCB...

While playing the recent turn in Tilly...my BA crashed. I had to restart and played the turn exactly up until the crash.

Just wanted to let you know
You are truly an honest player! :P
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Re: GJS'44 - D-Day - June 11th - Battles raging

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The battle of Rauray is over. The Brits defended the terrain bravely but the German panthers were to strong (except one of them that was taken out by a 6pdr...).

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Re: GJS'44 - D-Day - June 11th - Battles raging

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cavehobbit wrote:6AL/6 could withdraw to Cagny because this sector was free and controlled by the Allies. Cagny was captured by the Allies last day by 45/RM. This day (June 13th) 45/RM moved away from Cagny before the battle in Caen, therefore it was free for 6AL/6 to withdraw to.
Cavehobbit the BG I fought was the 5AL, not 6. They are currently on the border of Caen, waiting to be either dissolved (which I think they should due to the points I made) or retreat into an unoccupied(?) German Sector.
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Re: GJS'44 - D-Day - June 11th - Battles raging

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LandMarine47 wrote:
cavehobbit wrote:6AL/6 could withdraw to Cagny because this sector was free and controlled by the Allies. Cagny was captured by the Allies last day by 45/RM. This day (June 13th) 45/RM moved away from Cagny before the battle in Caen, therefore it was free for 6AL/6 to withdraw to.
Cavehobbit the BG I fought was the 5AL, not 6. They are currently on the border of Caen, waiting to be either dissolved (which I think they should due to the points I made) or retreat into an unoccupied(?) German Sector.
No, you fought 6AL/6. viewtopic.php?f=87&t=38844&start=1960#p430297

Once again, 5AL/6 is not retreating into a German occupied territory. With the very complex situation in and around Caen, and also affected by the battle in Bois, I've placed 5AL/6 on the border of Caen/Colombelles until the battle in Bois has ended. If you look in the order list you can see that 5AL/6 moves through Caen before I/12/12SS attacks the city. But 5AL/6 moves after 26/12SS in Colombelles, but 26/12SS can't move until the battle in Bois has ended. That is why the map looks a bit strange.
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Re: GJS'44 - D-Day - June 11th - Battles raging

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Ok. I was looking at the worng BG in the OOB. My bad :oops: I got confused with that BG on the border.
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Re: GJS'44 - D-Day - June 11th - Battles raging

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No problem, it is a complex situation. :wink:
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Re: GJS'44 - D-Day - June 11th - Battles raging

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Just to carry on from Al's post our Tilly game went o so slightly strange it would appear I have missed part or some of the turn. What happened was due to happen but I had no control. I totally accept Al's comments as this damned machine has done it to me before now.
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Re: GJS'44 - D-Day - June 11th - Battles raging

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I confirm our annihilation at Rauray
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Re: GJS'44 - D-Day - June 11th - Battles raging

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jcb989 wrote:I confirm our annihilation at Rauray
It's not that bad, Jcb. :wink:

Updated OOB and Strat map after Rauray.
(LM, there's a BG (5AL/6) on the border between Caen and Colombelles. It's still moving as it waits for the battle in Bois to end… :wink: :D Sorry, couldn't resist… :mrgreen: )

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Re: GJS'44 - D-Day - June 11th - Battles raging

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What is the status of the remaining battles?
When is Caen pm ready to start!?! I wanna get on going with July the 14th!!!
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Re: GJS'44 - D-Day - June 11th - Battles raging

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Honour79 wrote:What is the status of the remaining battles?
When is Caen pm ready to start!?! I wanna get on going with July the 14th!!!
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What Honor said!
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Re: GJS'44 - D-Day - June 11th - Battles raging

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The fight for Tilly is over with German panthers winning the day!

Germans held 3 flags for 9 points (Initial 3pt, 5pt Tilly and 1pt farm) against the Allies 2 flags fpr 8 points (forest 5pt and hill 3pt).

It was a tough battle for the Germans, was given a bloody nose by Guardman and his initial tough defense.

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