"240 BC Grand Campaign"

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Re: "240 BC Grand Campaign"

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Lysimachos wrote: I've played several battles against the AI set on 14 turns and they fared well.
There is anyway plenty of time for maneuvering and flanking the opponent's army, while casualties can easily arrive to a percentage of 40 or 45.
Horse shooting armies may have a little initial advantage given their superior firepower but in order to gain more than a 5% advantage in casualties they are also required to close in at some stage making the battle a bit more interesting than just chasing them all over the map with no real fun in the game.

Let's try the rule for at least 20 days and watch the results.
I'm sure we will be really satisfied, trust me! :wink:
I'm willing to give this change a try, but I'm highly sceptical it will have the desired effect. If faster battles are desired for some reason, my feeling is the army sizes should be reduced first instead of just fighting the first half of a big battle. OTOH, I'm not even sure which "problem" this change is supposed to be addressing. If a player feels that a battle is just dragging on after it has been decided, they can simply surrender or ask their opponent to do so.

76mm wrote:Challenge set up for Varity for the raid on Bastetania from Baetica. Password: agric
I think you made a mistake setting up the battle. It's currently set up as Spanish vs Spanish. Unless I misunderstand the rules, it should be Spanish vs. Carthaginians.
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Re: "240 BC Grand Campaign"

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The Carthaginian Republic builds paved roads.
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Re: "240 BC Grand Campaign"

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Varity wrote: I think you made a mistake setting up the battle. It's currently set up as Spanish vs Spanish. Unless I misunderstand the rules, it should be Spanish vs. Carthaginians.
Doh! You're right. Sorry, will set up a new one, same password.
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Re: "240 BC Grand Campaign"

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Lysimachos wrote:
Trogilus wrote:Parthia will invade and raid baggage trains in Margiana from Parthia.
The duty of defending Margiana falls on shadowblack.
Waiting for this challenge to be set
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Re: "240 BC Grand Campaign"

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Lysimachos, challenge is waiting for you in Gandhara. Password Diodotus
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Re: "240 BC Grand Campaign"

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shadowblack wrote:
Lysimachos wrote:
Trogilus wrote:Parthia will invade and raid baggage trains in Margiana from Parthia.
The duty of defending Margiana falls on shadowblack.
Waiting for this challenge to be set
I posted the challenge, password rooster.
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Re: "240 BC Grand Campaign"

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76mm wrote:Lysimachus, sorry for another idea, but i wanted to mention one more: for diplomatic reasons, i think it would be cooler if players didn’t know who was sponsoring independent attacks—more room for double-crossing, etc. Players could send their sponsored indepedent attack orders to you via pm, and you could announce the attack, and the assigned attacker, in this thread.

To make things even cooler, you could have the indentity of the sponsor revealed, but only under certain circumstances—-maybe if the indepedent attack is defeafed, or maybe just a straight % chance, etc.
Sorry but it is impossible to to act this way because I have to record every move in order to remember what's happening and also to control if the effects of the move in the summary chart correspond to what has been recorded on the Actions and Events Thread.
It's already a mess to take control of everything and writing down another sheet for "covert operantions" would be a delirium! :shock:
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Re: "240 BC Grand Campaign"

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Hi guys,
thank's everybody for sharing your ideas about shortening the length of battles.
Finally a decision has to be made and, as Master of the Rules ( 8) :mrgreen: ), I invite everybody to set up the battles for the next 20 days, until the 5th of January, with a turn limit of 16 or to play the ongoing ones up to this turn and no more.
Let's just have a look for a limited period of time and then the majority of players will decide if retaining the new rule or otherwise coming back to the old one.
This is of great importance also for futures campaigns and could help in understanding if the game can be improved in this way, or not.
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Re: "240 BC Grand Campaign"

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Pontus has withdrawn from Galatia in order to better prepare for the war with Selucia. We honour the brave efforts of our warriors but in the end there was no answer to superior warbands sitting on top of a hilli
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Re: "240 BC Grand Campaign"

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A picture depicting the peaceful caravans of pious and wise men sent by the Emperor Ashoka the Great to the folks of Arachosia surrounding them in their friendly hug!
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Re: "240 BC Grand Campaign"

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Pontus
- invades Cappadocia from Pontus and
- sponsors an attack on Phrygia from Galatia and (as it is the 15th of the month)
- builds trade routes
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Re: "240 BC Grand Campaign"

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Seeing a sign from the Gods of shooting stars crashing from the heavens from the East Ptolemy's wise men and mystics state it is a clear sign of the attempted crushing of the Ptolemaic minority population in the recently conquered province of Tripolitania by African mercenaries under the instruction of Carthage. This cannot stand and the rescue mission by the triumphant Ptolemaic western Army is now under way.....Ptolemy invades Trp (Tripolitania) from Aug(Augila)
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Re: "240 BC Grand Campaign"

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vakarr wrote:Pontus
- invades Cappadocia from Pontus and
- sponsors an attack on Phrygia from Galatia and (as it is the 15th of the month)
- builds trade routes
Sorry mate it isn't still time of trade routes givent that the rules state:
"A player may build Trade Routes, not before one month of play and only when already owning Paved Roads from at least 20 days, paying 120 talents."

Cappadocia will be defended by Varity
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Re: "240 BC Grand Campaign"

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The council of elders of the Carthaginian Republic is pleased to annouce the great victory of Boetharch Fuabal over the misguided resistance to lawful Carthaginian rule over Sardinia. The hill tribes native to the region have been pacified and may now anticipate a bright future wherein they will greatly profit from Carthaginian trade and innovation.


Carthage will now strengthen the friendship with the Sardinians and stimulate the local economy by building a fleet in Sardinia.
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Re: "240 BC Grand Campaign"

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Is it possible for Carthage to launch an attack from Bastetania to Edetania, even if Bastetania is currently being attacked? If yes, Carthage will commence the attack.
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Re: "240 BC Grand Campaign"

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Varity wrote:The council of elders of the Carthaginian Republic is pleased to annouce the great victory of Boetharch Fuabal over the misguided resistance to lawful Carthaginian rule over Sardinia. The hill tribes native to the region have been pacified and may now anticipate a bright future wherein they will greatly profit from Carthaginian trade and innovation.


Carthage will now strengthen the friendship with the Sardinians and stimulate the local economy by building a fleet in Sardinia.
We congratulate Carthage on the spreading of civilisation and the establishment of the West Mediterranean Co-Prosperity Sphere
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Re: "240 BC Grand Campaign"

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devoncop wrote:Seeing a sign from the Gods of shooting stars crashing from the heavens from the East Ptolemy's wise men and mystics state it is a clear sign of the attempted crushing of the Ptolemaic minority population in the recently conquered province of Tripolitania by African mercenaries under the instruction of Carthage. This cannot stand and the rescue mission by the triumphant Ptolemaic western Army is now under way.....Ptolemy invades Trp (Tripolitania) from Aug(Augila)

The liberation and stability force from Ptolemy has arrived in Tripolitania........battle set up for Varity........password "rescue" with new 16 turn limit.
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Re: "240 BC Grand Campaign"

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Varity wrote:Is it possible for Carthage to launch an attack from Bastetania to Edetania, even if Bastetania is currently being attacked? If yes, Carthage will commence the attack.
No, it's not possible because the rules state that:
"If a province is already under attack it won’t be liable to become a starting point."
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Re: "240 BC Grand Campaign"

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Lysimachos wrote:
vakarr wrote:Pontus
- invades Cappadocia from Pontus and
- sponsors an attack on Phrygia from Galatia and (as it is the 15th of the month)
- builds trade routes
Cappadocia will be defended by Varity
Challenges created for Varity (Cappadocia vs Pontus) and Aryaman (Galatians vs Seleucids), password gloriouspastures
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Re: "240 BC Grand Campaign"

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The Greeks were swept aside by Macedon 46% to 15% despite a curiously subdued performance by the Veteran Macedonian Phalanx units....who apparently were unimpressed by the change of leadership after the Macedonian Palace coup!) :wink:

Messinia falls to Macedon.

Ruthless generalship by 76mm........
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