World at War AAR-MrPlow vs. jjdenver (No jjdenver allowed)
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KingHunter3059
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MrPlow
- Administrative Corporal - SdKfz 251/1
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October 30, 1943
Battles rage everywhere. The Liberation of England begins as the Red Army surges towards enemy positions along the Eastern Front. Unfortunately all fronts are shrouded in secrecy as a censorship initiative has blocked all information coming from the chaotic battle areas. All that can be said, and even these are mainly rumors, is that there is heavy bloodshed on all sides...
Battles rage everywhere. The Liberation of England begins as the Red Army surges towards enemy positions along the Eastern Front. Unfortunately all fronts are shrouded in secrecy as a censorship initiative has blocked all information coming from the chaotic battle areas. All that can be said, and even these are mainly rumors, is that there is heavy bloodshed on all sides...
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MrPlow
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December 9, 1943
More and more unauthorized information keeps leaking from all fronts. It is rumoured that the Allies have a firm bridgehead, with air support, in Scotland as many units managed to make it ashore. In the East, the full scope of the bloodbath begins to leak out as both sides suffer through heavy casualties from attritional warfare.
More and more unauthorized information keeps leaking from all fronts. It is rumoured that the Allies have a firm bridgehead, with air support, in Scotland as many units managed to make it ashore. In the East, the full scope of the bloodbath begins to leak out as both sides suffer through heavy casualties from attritional warfare.
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MrPlow
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December 29, 1943
The year ends on a bloody note throughout all fronts. Rumours suggest that the battle for England is being heavily fought in the highlands of Scotland and that there are heavy casualties along the Eastern Front.
The year ends on a bloody note throughout all fronts. Rumours suggest that the battle for England is being heavily fought in the highlands of Scotland and that there are heavy casualties along the Eastern Front.
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MrPlow
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January 18, 1944
Though the information blackout continues, more and more rumours begin to circulate. Some depict vast victories, others bitter defeats, with the truth lying somewhere in between. It is thought that the difficult struggle continues throughout England as the Allies expand the bridgehead and begin the long fight towards London. In the East, special soviet units behind the lines begin exposing and executing "Nazi Spies and Traitors" who are accused of disseminating defeatist and morale-destroying propaganda. One of the the rumors these "Propaganda Puppets" spread is how our glorious Red Army tanks are "taking a pounding". These lies, like a burning flame, will soon be entirely "snuffed out", aswell as those who choose to spread them...
Though the information blackout continues, more and more rumours begin to circulate. Some depict vast victories, others bitter defeats, with the truth lying somewhere in between. It is thought that the difficult struggle continues throughout England as the Allies expand the bridgehead and begin the long fight towards London. In the East, special soviet units behind the lines begin exposing and executing "Nazi Spies and Traitors" who are accused of disseminating defeatist and morale-destroying propaganda. One of the the rumors these "Propaganda Puppets" spread is how our glorious Red Army tanks are "taking a pounding". These lies, like a burning flame, will soon be entirely "snuffed out", aswell as those who choose to spread them...
Haha I looked at jjdenver's aar and I wont tell you anything except that he has a screenshot of the minsk area from november. You should all take a look and compare it to Mrplow's september screenshot. Except you, mrplow. I'm sorry it had to happen like this.MrPlow wrote:February 27, 1944
Progress in the west, disaster in the East...
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KingHunter3059
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MrPlow
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April 7, 1944
Eastern Front
New Vigor sweeps throughout the Eastern Front as an unorthodox Soviet Plan has potential to come to fruition. Our plan is working, the enemy thinks we are weak after destroying our obsolete frontline units. As planned they have advanced into our territory and over-extended themselves, losing their entrenchment bonus in the process. New glorious Red Army troops, fresh and well equipped, will soon charge and attack the enemy has fierily as possible. We will inflict grievous casualties and make them regret their Aryan superiority complex! Glory to the Motherland!
Battle for England
The Frontline is gradually moving south, despite the best efforts of the Wehrmacht and large Luftwaffe presence on the island. If all goes well, our troops will soon be assaulting Glasgow and bringing the fight closer to the enemy. Tally-ho!
Eastern Front
New Vigor sweeps throughout the Eastern Front as an unorthodox Soviet Plan has potential to come to fruition. Our plan is working, the enemy thinks we are weak after destroying our obsolete frontline units. As planned they have advanced into our territory and over-extended themselves, losing their entrenchment bonus in the process. New glorious Red Army troops, fresh and well equipped, will soon charge and attack the enemy has fierily as possible. We will inflict grievous casualties and make them regret their Aryan superiority complex! Glory to the Motherland!
Battle for England
The Frontline is gradually moving south, despite the best efforts of the Wehrmacht and large Luftwaffe presence on the island. If all goes well, our troops will soon be assaulting Glasgow and bringing the fight closer to the enemy. Tally-ho!
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OzHawkeye2
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This game will likely be decided by the "end in 45" option I think. You'll do well to hold Moscow till then and with that and Paris the Axis should record a victory, since there's no hope of knocking Italy out by then.
If the "end in 45" option were off though, I'd reverse all of that completely. You'll retake the UK, which since it hasn't been defeated means they're back in business, France will be liberated and as the partisan activity grows in the USSR, I can see the Axis running out of steam well before Perm I think.
So, if the game were playing to a complete conclusion I'd feel pretty good as the Allies here, despite your losses in Russia. With an end-in-45 though, I think it likely you'll have lost Moscow by then and the Axis will be able to hold it long enough, so that even if you liberate Paris by then (no small feat that), they'll still record a 1-0 win.
If the "end in 45" option were off though, I'd reverse all of that completely. You'll retake the UK, which since it hasn't been defeated means they're back in business, France will be liberated and as the partisan activity grows in the USSR, I can see the Axis running out of steam well before Perm I think.
So, if the game were playing to a complete conclusion I'd feel pretty good as the Allies here, despite your losses in Russia. With an end-in-45 though, I think it likely you'll have lost Moscow by then and the Axis will be able to hold it long enough, so that even if you liberate Paris by then (no small feat that), they'll still record a 1-0 win.
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Peter Stauffenberg
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This game is played with the BJR-mod so it should end by the end of May 1945. The victory conditions are like this:
• Ultimate Axis victory: Axis control of 4 or more capitals (London, Washington, Paris, Moscow, Rome, Berlin)
• Strategic Axis victory: Axis control of 3 capitals
• Major Axis victory: Axis control of 2 capitals
• Minor Axis victory: Axis control of 1 capital
• Draw: Axis lost their final capital in May 1945
• Minor Allied victory: Axis lost their final capital in March-April 1945
• Major Allied victory: Axis lost their final capital January-February 1945
• Strategic Allied victory: Axis lost their final capital in July-December 1944
• Ultimate Allied victory: Axis lost their final capital before July 1944
The Axis player will for sure keep Paris, Rome and Berlin so he's guaranteed a Strategic victory. If he can keep London or grab Moscow then he will win an Ultimate victory.
I think MrPlow probably lost the game when he allowed the big British force to be cut off from supply in Libya. That gave the Axis the initiative in Africa and meant he lost Iraq and the oil. If this had not happened then the Allied first invasion force could go after Italy or
Britain. Losing Britain was not the decisive factor.
The worst Allied loss came in Russia. It's very important to be patient with the Russian and wait until you have air superiority. Then you can soften up the Axis units properly before attacking with land units. MrPlow was too aggressive with the Russian armor and lost most of them quickly. Then the steam went out of the offensive and we know the result.
But he was in a desperate situation due to the loss of Egypt and Iraq. He had to do something in Russia hoping for a miracle. If the British units had managed to hold in Libya then he could have afforded to be more patient in Russia and launched the offensive with more air and land units.
Still, we have to give Kudos to jjdenver for playing very well. He seems to have exploited every possibility he had to hurt the Allies and the Russians. So he didn't win just because MrPlow made some mistakes. He won because HE created the situations that forced MrPlow to make desperate moves. E. g. the invasion by the Italian corps to cut off supply to the big British force in Libya was a masterstroke and probably was decisive for the huge Axis victory. I think jjdenver would have won anyway, but not a strategic victory.
• Ultimate Axis victory: Axis control of 4 or more capitals (London, Washington, Paris, Moscow, Rome, Berlin)
• Strategic Axis victory: Axis control of 3 capitals
• Major Axis victory: Axis control of 2 capitals
• Minor Axis victory: Axis control of 1 capital
• Draw: Axis lost their final capital in May 1945
• Minor Allied victory: Axis lost their final capital in March-April 1945
• Major Allied victory: Axis lost their final capital January-February 1945
• Strategic Allied victory: Axis lost their final capital in July-December 1944
• Ultimate Allied victory: Axis lost their final capital before July 1944
The Axis player will for sure keep Paris, Rome and Berlin so he's guaranteed a Strategic victory. If he can keep London or grab Moscow then he will win an Ultimate victory.
I think MrPlow probably lost the game when he allowed the big British force to be cut off from supply in Libya. That gave the Axis the initiative in Africa and meant he lost Iraq and the oil. If this had not happened then the Allied first invasion force could go after Italy or
Britain. Losing Britain was not the decisive factor.
The worst Allied loss came in Russia. It's very important to be patient with the Russian and wait until you have air superiority. Then you can soften up the Axis units properly before attacking with land units. MrPlow was too aggressive with the Russian armor and lost most of them quickly. Then the steam went out of the offensive and we know the result.
But he was in a desperate situation due to the loss of Egypt and Iraq. He had to do something in Russia hoping for a miracle. If the British units had managed to hold in Libya then he could have afforded to be more patient in Russia and launched the offensive with more air and land units.
Still, we have to give Kudos to jjdenver for playing very well. He seems to have exploited every possibility he had to hurt the Allies and the Russians. So he didn't win just because MrPlow made some mistakes. He won because HE created the situations that forced MrPlow to make desperate moves. E. g. the invasion by the Italian corps to cut off supply to the big British force in Libya was a masterstroke and probably was decisive for the huge Axis victory. I think jjdenver would have won anyway, but not a strategic victory.