Sorry about this, but....

[Vonkluge1940]

Thanks for all the reply's and cutting me a bit of slack for being "salty" in the first post! Things are improving as I get more into it. So far the editor is still a mystery as I cant figure out how to use it (I get a reinstall game message?) or open a game with it but over the week end I'll give the rules a good read! Is there a way to share scenarios?

PS, well yep there are some old frikken duffers here!

Regards,

Bill Witthans
www.HistoricalHobbies.com

[fra127_slith]

I had really strange combat odds while invading Norway in the first campaign..
My 6hp Destroyer attacked an 1 hp norvegian destroyer, combat odds were -2 for me and -1 for Novergian.
ok i really wanted to get rid who dared to attack my main ship... i lost 2 hp et and only 1 green hit for my opponent.?

Did i miss something?

There is an 1 hp Norge Inf in the mountain, with entranchement level 2/7 (even if they fled last round?)
I can attack with 3 units
15str Wehr Inf result -1/-1
11str Pionere result 0/-1
10str Fallschirmjager 0/-1

Ok the Pionere can ignore fortification..the parachutist fights from close (i don't know what does the mean...)

and the tank sound is crappy btw...
I ve bought the Fieldmarshall edition and i m a bit disappointed even if some improvements seems to be good : encirclement, flaw and perks for the general

[Horseman]

I had really strange combat odds while invading Norway in the first campaign..
My 6hp Destroyer attacked an 1 hp norvegian destroyer, combat odds were -2 for me and -1 for Novergian.
ok i really wanted to get rid who dared to attack my main ship... i lost 2 hp et and only 1 green hit for my opponent.?

Did i miss something?

There is an 1 hp Norge Inf in the mountain, with entranchement level 2/7 (even if they fled last round?)
I can attack with 3 units
15str Wehr Inf result -1/-1
11str Pionere result 0/-1
10str Fallschirmjager 0/-1

Ok the Pionere can ignore fortification..the parachutist fights from close (i don't know what does the mean...)

and the tank sound is crappy btw...
I ve bought the Fieldmarshall edition and i m a bit disappointed even if some improvements seems to be good : encirclement, flaw and perks for the general

Ships are single entities and always attack as if they're full strength.

Was it a mountain infantry you were attacking? They have a close defence of 2 (all other infantry early other than engineers/pioneers have 0) and also get a further bonus in mountains or hills. This would be why you didn't inflict many casualties.

Each terrain has a base entrenchment that's why they had 2/7 even though they retreated.

When you have a combat you don't understand you can always press L and open up the log. Then you can see what has caused the results you saw.

Edit: wait was that the combat odds you saw? Why is that a surprise? They're only 1 strength so you can't kill more that that? It's not odds it's predicted loses.

[fra127_slith]

I had really strange combat odds while invading Norway in the first campaign..
My 6hp Destroyer attacked an 1 hp norvegian destroyer, combat odds were -2 for me and -1 for Novergian.
ok i really wanted to get rid who dared to attack my main ship... i lost 2 hp et and only 1 green hit for my opponent.?

Did i miss something?

There is an 1 hp Norge Inf in the mountain, with entranchement level 2/7 (even if they fled last round?)
I can attack with 3 units
15str Wehr Inf result -1/-1
11str Pionere result 0/-1
10str Fallschirmjager 0/-1

Ok the Pionere can ignore fortification..the parachutist fights from close (i don't know what does the mean...)

and the tank sound is crappy btw...
I ve bought the Fieldmarshall edition and i m a bit disappointed even if some improvements seems to be good : encirclement, flaw and perks for the general

Ships are single entities and always attack as if they're full strength.

Was it a mountain infantry you were attacking? They have a close defence of 2 (all other infantry early other than engineers/pioneers have 0) and also get a further bonus in mountains or hills. This would be why you didn't inflict many casualties.

Each terrain has a base entrenchment that's why they had 2/7 even though they retreated.

When you have a combat you don't understand you can always press L and open up the log. Then you can see what has caused the results you saw.

Edit: wait was that the combat odds you saw? Why is that a surprise? They're only 1 strength so you can't kill more that that? It's not odds it's predicted loses.

Thanksvery much for the info, i do understand why i was suffering so many losses at sea
about your edit, yeah i can't kill more than 1.. but a full 15str unit wold have suffref as much looses it would inflict.. but i ll use the L key from now

[Demetrios_of_Messene]

There is an 1 hp Norge Inf in the mountain, with entranchement level 2/7 (even if they fled last round?)
I can attack with 3 units
15str Wehr Inf result -1/-1
11str Pionere result 0/-1
10str Fallschirmjager 0/-1

Ok the Pionere can ignore fortification..the parachutist fights from close (i don't know what does the mean...)

Sometimes it may suffice to by-pass an enemy unit (mind that they do not take back the objectives). If you must combat him, then you need to get more creative.
Encircle the enemy unit and assist your infantry with bomber or artillery. Ideally, do all of these.

[ragingrondo]

I had really strange combat odds while invading Norway in the first campaign..
My 6hp Destroyer attacked an 1 hp norvegian destroyer, combat odds were -2 for me and -1 for Novergian.
ok i really wanted to get rid who dared to attack my main ship... i lost 2 hp et and only 1 green hit for my opponent.?

Did i miss something?

There is an 1 hp Norge Inf in the mountain, with entranchement level 2/7 (even if they fled last round?)
I can attack with 3 units
15str Wehr Inf result -1/-1
11str Pionere result 0/-1
10str Fallschirmjager 0/-1

Ok the Pionere can ignore fortification..the parachutist fights from close (i don't know what does the mean...)

and the tank sound is crappy btw...
I ve bought the Fieldmarshall edition and i m a bit disappointed even if some improvements seems to be good : encirclement, flaw and perks for the general

Another thing to remember with the odds predictor is that in some cases it "lies". I use the term sparingly, but if you have an initiative advantage, you will shoot first, and if those first shots do enough damage to kill the unit before it can fire in retaliation then you won't take damage, regardless of what the combat losses predictor says.

[Horseman]

I had really strange combat odds while invading Norway in the first campaign..
My 6hp Destroyer attacked an 1 hp norvegian destroyer, combat odds were -2 for me and -1 for Novergian.
ok i really wanted to get rid who dared to attack my main ship... i lost 2 hp et and only 1 green hit for my opponent.?

Did i miss something?

There is an 1 hp Norge Inf in the mountain, with entranchement level 2/7 (even if they fled last round?)
I can attack with 3 units
15str Wehr Inf result -1/-1
11str Pionere result 0/-1
10str Fallschirmjager 0/-1

Ok the Pionere can ignore fortification..the parachutist fights from close (i don't know what does the mean...)

and the tank sound is crappy btw...
I ve bought the Fieldmarshall edition and i m a bit disappointed even if some improvements seems to be good : encirclement, flaw and perks for the general

Ships are single entities and always attack as if they're full strength.

Was it a mountain infantry you were attacking? They have a close defence of 2 (all other infantry early other than engineers/pioneers have 0) and also get a further bonus in mountains or hills. This would be why you didn't inflict many casualties.

Each terrain has a base entrenchment that's why they had 2/7 even though they retreated.

When you have a combat you don't understand you can always press L and open up the log. Then you can see what has caused the results you saw.

Edit: wait was that the combat odds you saw? Why is that a surprise? They're only 1 strength so you can't kill more that that? It's not odds it's predicted loses.

Thanksvery much for the info, i do understand why i was suffering so many losses at sea
about your edit, yeah i can't kill more than 1.. but a full 15str unit wold have suffref as much looses it would inflict.. but i ll use the L key from now

Yeah that 1 damage is what I call chip damage. Depending on your difficulty setting the enemy units 1 strength point will have between 50 - 70% accuracy. (Also dependent on units xp) because your Wehr probably has the same iniative or similar it'll get it's shot off amd your Wehr has 0 close defence which means if that shot hits it'll probably kill. When doing predictions the game will round off that chance for a kill to 1.

Your pioneers have 8 CD so that 1 shot becomes unlikely to kill. And your Fallschirmjager has higher iniative I think so might be that the enemy won't get a shot off (i dont think they have any CD but am not 100%)