ECW Campaign 2017 Common Thread

[GDod]

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Gavin,

you have confused me with your example of LDFM reinforcing himself. I thought a reinforcement was if a battle took place in a county and one of the sides had another army in an adjoining county. Taking the example above if both Brent and LDFM move into county 9 and the unknown warrior was still in county 27 then LDFM would be reinforced.
Your example B shows LDFM merely defending his home county not being reinforced, unless my knowledge of English is impaired somehow. There is no mention of getting extra forces for defending your home county.

Sorry lascar example B is a little confusing (and wrong as I had neglected to add 50pts... let me try and clarify... I had not meant to infer that it was turn 1.... the example is that LDFM (Parliamentarian) has the home county of 8 and in a previous move he had moved to province 9 unopposed. He is now sitting in province 9. He is now attacked by Brent from 22 who moves into 9 (Brent still only has his home county of 22). Province 27 has an a parliamentarian army sitting in it.
LDFM has a reinforced defense because a friendly parliamentarian army is bordering 9.

LDFM has 1050pts + a 180 reinforcement = 1230pts (rounded up to nearest 80 = 1280pts, lucky boy!) Not 1000+180 as I advised
Brent has 1000pts

This map may help

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[GDod]

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Counties 30 and 36 are connected as are 14 and 2, 49 and 44, 48 and 46, and 22 and 42

[Kelen2]

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Sorry, another couple of questions.

1) What size maps will we be playing on?
2) Does the starting 1000pts include the 50 for our starting county, or do we get the 50pts extra for EVERY county we own?

What size maps?... can you explain Kelen I'm not sure of what your question is?. The map will be posted in-line in the common thread (see the example further down this page, if you click on it it will show you the whole map. But if the map is bigger than 256K because of the information updates and it is unclear when it is shrink in size then I'll include a link to the master map.

Good question... NO that's the one worth 1000 points but good try to squeeze extra points out of me

Sorry was talking about the battle map, not campaign map, i.e. medium, wide, very wide. I'm assuming wide, as per Le Roi Soleil, but just thought I'd check as we could be using widely differing size armies each battle, so wondered if the size would be fixed or scalable depending on the larger of the 2 opposing forces, e.g. wide up to 1500pts, very wide over 1500pts.

Apologies if you have stated this earlier elsewhere, but if you have I've missed it.

[SnuggleBunnies]

So... there is only a battle if there are two armies in a territory? If I move into an enemy province with no army in it, I just seize it?

[GDod]

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So... there is only a battle if there are two armies in a territory? If I move into an enemy province with no army in it, I just seize it?

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Yes! just like a bridge over troubled waters!

[GDod]

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Sorry, another couple of questions.

1) What size maps will we be playing on?

What size maps?... can you explain Kelen I'm not sure of what your question is?. The map will be posted in-line in the common thread (see the example further down this page, if you click on it it will show you the whole map. But if the map is bigger than 256K because of the information updates and it is unclear when it is shrink in size then I'll include a link to the master map.

Sorry was talking about the battle map, not campaign map, i.e. medium, wide, very wide. I'm assuming wide, as per Le Roi Soleil, but just thought I'd check as we could be using widely differing size armies each battle, so wondered if the size would be fixed or scalable depending on the larger of the 2 opposing forces, e.g. wide up to 1500pts, very wide over 1500pts.

Apologies if you have stated this earlier elsewhere, but if you have I've missed it.

I understand the question now Kelen. I think the size of the map should depend on the forces in action but if there's any differing opinions, failing any desire to use pistols at dawn, I think your suggestion is very logically "wide up to 1500pts, very wide over 1500pts."
the default wide. by the way no-one has claimed the imbedded prize this month!

[iandavidsmith]

Is there a list on what period we are fighting ? eg what armies are available to each side ?
Ian

[GDod]

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Is there a list on what period we are fighting ? eg what armies are available to each side ?
Ian

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Rules updated 8.5.17

These are the forces available Ian

Royalist 1643-44
Royalist Raiders 1643 - 45...........Can be used either as a field army or as a flying column force
Royalist Cornish 1643................Only if you own a county in Cornwall
Scots Royalists 1644-45..............Only if you own a County in Ireland, Scotland or Northern Counties)

Parliament 1643-45
Scots Convenant. 1642-47 ..........Only if you own a County in Northern Counties, Ireland or Scotland
Parliament + Scots 1644-46.........Only if you own a County in Northern Counties, Ireland or Scotland

You may decide the type of force you field but must consider the restrictions including the use of flying columns.

[ulysisgrunt]

I have returned from my cruise to the Baltic; observing the fights between the Prussians, Swedes, Danes, and Muscovites.
I am ready to take up the Parliamentary province of Warwickshire (27) if it is still available...


(I am flying from New York back to California and home this evening; fully engaged on Tuesday May 9th)
Danny Weitz

[awesum4]

I, Andre Deveraux by appointment of Charles Stuart King of England Scotland Ireland and Wales, am Duke of Cornwall.

I hereby declare that all rebels against his Majesties right to rule by Divine Right, shall immediately desist in all their traitorous activities and surrender themselves to His mercy, or I shall smite them and split them asunder and send them to a traitors death.

All Glory be to God and King Charles,

[GDod]

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I have returned from my cruise to the Baltic; observing the fights between the Prussians, Swedes, Danes, and Muscovites.
I am ready to take up the Parliamentary province of Warwickshire (27) if it is still available...


(I am flying from New York back to California and home this evening; fully engaged on Tuesday May 9th)
Danny Weitz

County 27 Has a New Face

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Welcome Danny... you may enter the Parliamentarian Line of communication thread. I have suggested a move but you are free to change it. You may need to famalirise yourself with the campaign and the suggested timeline, rules for challenges, army lists, types and points for battles, and terrain choice in this thread again, welcome back and enjoy.

[GDod]

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I've been advised by a trusty Warlord (whose name I shall keep anonymous ) that the Scots Covenanters and Scots Royalists army lists are unable to form a flying column because they cannot mass enough cavalry. Thus, a Parliamentarian force must fight as Parliament+ Scots in a move as a flying column (You can, of course, still choose to fight as straight parliamentarian.) and Royalist Scots must choose another list

Special note to Parliament - The added danger chaps is that as your force grows the ability for a Parliamentarian force to maintain a flying column is reduced until you accumulate 2000 pts and can split your force into two (Something to mull over with your wine

[KiwiWarlord]

More complicated examples for you to ponder A Question for you: Who chooses the terrain in each example? Prize for first correct entry ... free upgrade of 1 pike unit to veteran this month only!

Example A.............At present - If Brent moves from county 22 to county 9 ... and ... LFDLM moves from county 8 to county 9 then an open battle occurs. the points per side are equal at 1000pts as (Brent only owns home province and LFDLM only owns one province)

Example B.............However, If LFDLM was already in province 9 and Brent moves in then it is a reinforced battle for LFDLM (who gets an extra 180 points in reinforcements) Hence, the type of battle would be reinforced defender and the points for the battle would be attacker (Brent) 1000pts vs defender LFDLM 1180pts.

Example C.............However, If LFDLM was already in province 9 and Brent moves in (and Brent owns three additional counties, (say 42,43,44) to his home county then it is a reinforced battle for LFDLM (who gets an extra 1000pts +180 points in reinforcements) Hence, the type of battle would be reinforced defender and the points for the battle would be attacker (Brent) 1000pts (1000pts+150pts (3 counties extra)+ 100pts (owning a Division Monmouthshire and Wales) = 1250pts vs defender (LFDLM) with 1180pts.

If there is confusion or conflicting interpretations over points I'll work it out for both opponents if requested.[/quote]

A = Pot Luck
B= Defender
C= Attacker

[GDod]

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More complicated examples for you to ponder A Question for you: Who chooses the terrain in each example? Prize for first correct entry ... free upgrade of 1 pike unit to veteran this month only!

Example A.............At present - If Brent moves from county 22 to county 9 ... and ... LFDLM moves from county 8 to county 9 then an open battle occurs. the points per side are equal at 1000pts as (Brent only owns home province and LFDLM only owns one province)

Example B.............However, If LFDLM was already in province 9 and Brent moves in then it is a reinforced battle for LFDLM (who gets an extra 180 points in reinforcements) Hence, the type of battle would be reinforced defender and the points for the battle would be attacker (Brent) 1000pts vs defender LFDLM 1180pts.

Example C.............However, If LFDLM was already in province 9 and Brent moves in (and Brent owns three additional counties, (say 42,43,44) to his home county then it is a reinforced battle for LFDLM (who gets an extra 1000pts +180 points in reinforcements) Hence, the type of battle would be reinforced defender and the points for the battle would be attacker (Brent) 1000pts (1000pts+150pts (3 counties extra)+ 100pts (owning a Division Monmouthshire and Wales) = 1250pts vs defender (LFDLM) with 1180pts.

If there is confusion or conflicting interpretations over points I'll work it out for both opponents if requested.

Congratulations Brian you have claimed the extra points to upgrade one unit to veteran for any battle this month

[GDod]

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Most moves are in... when I have 4 Kerry D I'll post the map and battles for the coming month (Some interesting surprises are in store...say no more)

Pamphleteers Say (And sometimes it may be true!)

We hear a young cavalry captain by the name of Cromwell is successfully skirmishing around Gainsborough. It seems he will help to secure most of East Anglia for Parliament by the summer of 1643.Some say he will be appointed governor of Ely and promoted to colonel in the new Eastern Association army soon.
In other news, Prince Rupert has began to clear the South-West, rumour has it he has taken Cirencester and is moving against Bristol with his brother Maurice. Cornish forces have been seen moving towards Bristol.

No Random events this month peasant rebellions in claimed provinces declaring themselves as independant, plagues reducing forces that month, a stronghold in the county declaring for the opposite side ceasing movement that turn to clear out the rebels, kingly commands, princely strong-pigheadedness, and other ECW historical events and personality appearances with benefits (or hindrances)

[awesum4]

Gavin,

when are you doing the move? There is serious crushing of rebels to be done.

Can I ask that in the future you give a date and time for moves to be in by. The rules state quite clearly that if moves are not in on time then that army doesn't move, presumably its commander is drinking and wenching (Royalists) or praying and preaching (Rebels)

[KiwiWarlord]

Gavin,

when are you doing the move? There is serious crushing of rebels to be done.

Royalists champing at the bit, literally............

[GDod]

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Gavin,when are you doing the move? There is serious crushing of rebels to be done.
Can I ask that in the future you give a date and time for moves to be in by. The rules state quite clearly that if moves are not in on time then that army doesn't move, presumably its commander is drinking and wenching (Royalists) or praying and preaching (Rebels)

TODAY IS END OF WEEK 1
Noted I'll date things in the future awsum... we were scheduled to have moves in by the end of the month (May) We started early because we're all keen.... but I know you're all eager.... sooooooooo here it is, trumpets please...
This is worth a listen while you ponder your next move... Mozart's Senerade no.9 in D major (The Posthorn Serenade cicra. 1779) https://youtu.be/wKaorSRBQjc

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Battle looms Snuggles and Kelen both advance into West riding, Yorkshire (open battle... both forces have 1 ally army bordering neither are flying columns (1000 points) terrain random)
Battle Looms TGM Flying column from Staffordshire attacks Danny (Ulysisgrunt) in Warwickshire. Parliament has reinforcements in Oxfordshire but Royalists from Leicestershire and Worcestershire negate their influence therefore (Type of battle attacker 'send flank march' for TGM = 1050 points + 200 points flank march rounded down = 1200, Terrain = attackers choice (2X counties)

Messages of support and taunts for both sides are welcome

Good luck gentlemen. The future of the country and king and the weight of your faction is on your shoulders. We wait in anticipation TO WAR! Please post youur results on this thread... we will want to know whether we are all in trouble or need to be rejoicing

[GDod]

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It may be a good time to advise the Scottish gentlemen not to mention the Scottish play .... and may need to view the connected counties list in the Global announcements

[SnuggleBunnies]

So to be clear, for Kelen and my battle:

1000 pts. My force would have to be Parliament 43-45?
Open Battle
Potluck Terrain
Wide map
Default or automatic armies?
And since we both have allied support we play eith 1000? Or we both play with 1180?