Artillery Attachments

[bahdahbum]

a small unit with an attachment is still a small unit and doesn't get the benefit ignoring the first hit (or the extra 2 dice in close close combat), but still occupies the same frontage as a large unit

I thought the artillery attachment would be "behind" the 2 bases as they do not lenghten the front of the units .

[Blathergut]

Some where...(I think in the rules...I'll see if I can find it...or maybe here in a posting, but I don't think so)...it mentions that an artillery attachment to artillery actually increases its frontage by a base width.


Edit: Found it: page 89.

-increase frontage instead of replace base

Interestingly, I never noticed before, artillery attachment to inf. can only fire independently at medium range.

[Blathergut]

But does that mean that artillery attachment with cavalry can fire 1 die at long range? Or can only artillery attachment with artillery fire at long range?

[deadtorius]

Look at the firing charts, at long range artillery attachment only adds on die, so you have to somehow be able to shoot out to long range in the first place. Infantry and cavalry get 0 dice at long range so nothing to add a die to. Artillery can shoot at long range so get 1 extra die for the attachment.

Subtle sneaky way they put it in, and we missed it

[terrys]

Look at the firing charts, at long range artillery attachment only adds on die, so you have to somehow be able to shoot out to long range in the first place. Infantry and cavalry get 0 dice at long range so nothing to add a die to. Artillery can shoot at long range so get 1 extra die for the attachment.

deadtorius is correct.

Only UNITS fire - attachments do NOT fire independantly (even if supplying the only firing dice). Dice are allocated from the width of the parent units front, not from the front of the artillery attachment. The only exception to this is that a unit in extended line adds the extra dice to the half-unit in which it is placed.
Since only artillery units can fire at long range (page 49) infantry and cavalry with artillery attachments cannot fire at long range.

[hazelbark]

Since only artillery units can fire at long range (page 49) infantry and cavalry with artillery attachments cannot fire at long range.

If and infantry and artillery units are both firing at medium range. can a 3rd unit at long range with an artillery attachment add its dice to their fire?

[deadtorius]

If and infantry and artillery units are both firing at medium range. can a 3rd unit at long range with an artillery attachment add its dice to their fire?

Not unless that third unit is an artillery unit. If its an infantry unit there are no bases in that unit that can shoot at long range and therefore it can not shoot its own attached artillery.
If the parent unit can't shoot the attachment does not shoot, regardless of what the neighbors are doing.

[hazelbark]

If and infantry and artillery units are both firing at medium range. can a 3rd unit at long range with an artillery attachment add its dice to their fire?

Not unless that third unit is an artillery unit. If its an infantry unit there are no bases in that unit that can shoot at long range and therefore it can not shoot its own attached artillery.
If the parent unit can't shoot the attachment does not shoot, regardless of what the neighbors are doing.

I am just double checking.