OT: They shouldn't be allowed to ruin some franchises

Kerensky · Post by **Kerensky** » Thu Nov 10, 2011 11:42 pm

Still better than the MechWarrior Dark Age Atlas...

Ugh, Dark Age indeed.

http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9 ... ogpklURCkf

VPaulus · Post by **VPaulus** » Fri Nov 11, 2011 6:49 pm

About Legend of Grimrock, a Dungeon Master remake.
http://games.on.net/article/14184/Crawl ... _Interview

Tarrak · Post by **Tarrak** » Fri Nov 11, 2011 9:51 pm

Kerensky wrote:Still better than the MechWarrior Dark Age Atlas...

Ugh, Dark Age indeed.

http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9 ... ogpklURCkf

Ugh thats an nasty abomination ... yeah really killed Battle Tech with Dark Age .. R.I.P.

huertgenwald · Post by **huertgenwald** » Sat Nov 12, 2011 10:16 pm

Don't know if it fits in here :

Another "hot" candidate for ruined franchises is (IMHO) Diablo 3 !

No attribute management, no skill management, no runewords, online game ONLY.

Players will have almost none influence over their characters !

So why play that game at all ?

VPaulus · Post by **VPaulus** » Sat Nov 12, 2011 10:39 pm

There was a considerable large period, since the end of the Golden Age of Amiga until 2000, that I almost stop playing computer games. The addiction came again with Diablo II. So while I didn't care about Starcraft, with Diablo III it's another matter.
I've not reading much about it in order not to get hype or disappointed. I doubt it will end up being only an online game, but if that's the case, than yes, it will be one more ruined franchise.

I'm sure Kerensky has a word on this.

huertgenwald · Post by **huertgenwald** » Sat Nov 12, 2011 10:55 pm

Sadly, VPaulus you can be assured !

Online Multiplayer on BNET as before.
No multi-player over networks.
SP (single player) only ONLINE !

Unless a wonder happens, that's what we will get at the start of next year (presumably)

VPaulus · Post by **VPaulus** » Sat Nov 12, 2011 11:06 pm

huertgenwald wrote: SP (single player) only ONLINE !

What does that means? From what I've heard you can completely play SP without the need of MP?
I hate all this kind of nuisance of having to be online, but with certain aspects of it I can live with.

soldier · Post by **soldier** » Sun Nov 13, 2011 1:29 am

Apparently Paradox interactive are making "Cartel", supossedly inspired by syndicate.

VPaulus · Post by **VPaulus** » Sun Nov 13, 2011 1:55 am

soldier wrote:Apparently Paradox interactive are making "Cartel", supossedly inspired by syndicate.

I've heard. The quality of some Paradox tiles are not great. Let us hope that this redeems Syndicate's heritage.

soldier · Post by **soldier** » Sun Nov 13, 2011 2:05 am

Yes some of there titles are quite ambitious and need lots of patching up (or even expansions) after release, before they reach a workable state. I was a big fan of Hearts of Iron 2 (now arsenal of democracy) but stayed away from version 3 after hearing about the AI trouble. Seems like they bit off more than they could chew. There hardly alone amongst game developers in that respect unfortunately.

bluegrass · Post by **bluegrass** » Sun Nov 13, 2011 8:06 am

I loved playing Operation Europe Path to Victory on SNES

Kerensky · Post by **Kerensky** » Sun Nov 13, 2011 8:46 am

bluegrass wrote:I loved playing Operation Europe Path to Victory on SNES

Best combat music of any world war 2 game. EVER.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... 2bAk#t=65s

bluegrass · Post by **bluegrass** » Sun Nov 13, 2011 10:12 am

Hey, I would pay a lot for a new modern day version of Operation Europe Path to Victory

impar · Post by **impar** » Sun Nov 13, 2011 11:02 am

VPaulus wrote:What does that means? From what I've heard you can completely play SP without the need of MP?

To play the SP game you need to be online. No net connection, no SP play.

huertgenwald · Post by **huertgenwald** » Sun Nov 13, 2011 12:36 pm

To play the SP game you need to be online. No net connection, no SP play.

Yep, your SP chars are stored on BNET servers.

VPaulus · Post by **VPaulus** » Sun Nov 13, 2011 1:37 pm

huertgenwald wrote:
To play the SP game you need to be online. No net connection, no SP play.
Yep, your SP chars are stored on BNET servers.

That sounds like Ubisoft's protection scheme.
Hmmm. I've to think if I'm going to buy it after all.

Molve · Post by **Molve** » Sun Nov 13, 2011 8:22 pm

huertgenwald wrote:
To play the SP game you need to be online. No net connection, no SP play.
Yep, your SP chars are stored on BNET servers.

Sigh.

Yet another instance where nothing is gained except making legal customers jumping through hoops and justifying the illegal simpler alternatives...

Kerensky · Post by **Kerensky** » Wed Nov 16, 2011 8:40 pm

VPaulus wrote:I'm sure Kerensky has a word on this.

I'll let this do the talking for me.

http://penny-arcade.com/patv/episode/th ... arketplace

huertgenwald · Post by **huertgenwald** » Wed Nov 16, 2011 10:17 pm

Thumbs up, Kerensky

VPaulus · Post by **VPaulus** » Wed Nov 16, 2011 10:33 pm

It makes sense.
Well, I guess, that I won't buy Diablo III, then.