While We Wait...

A7V21 · Post by **A7V21** » Tue Sep 27, 2011 2:42 pm

ElIndo,

I totally agree..The Lost Battaliont was a decent flick considering films made of WWI are few and far between circa after 1990.

A7V21

TheGrayMouser · Post by **TheGrayMouser** » Tue Sep 27, 2011 4:36 pm

A7V21 wrote:ElIndo,

I totally agree..The Lost Battaliont was a decent flick considering films made of WWI are few and far between circa after 1990.

A7V21

That was a really good movie, sadly the Colonel in real life never got over the horrors/guilt of that battle and commited suicide in the 30's

Add "Capitaine Conan" French film set on the WW 1 Bulgarian front and then fighting the Bolsheviks

adherbal · Post by **adherbal** » Wed Sep 28, 2011 1:10 pm

While we wait, why not watch the best documentary, IMO, so far about WWI air War. I've imported my edition from Australia.
But you can see all the episodes in youtube.
Start with number one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1b8Rx0XX ... re=related

I'm watching these now. Very good documentary indeed. Happy to notice that so far there's not much information I didn't know yet

For example the Albatros' plywood fusilage, being translated into the game with the "Reinforced Fusilage" technology. The resulting Fighter unit icon for the Germans is - indeed - an Albatros

VPaulus · Post by **VPaulus** » Wed Sep 28, 2011 1:22 pm

adherbal wrote: I'm watching these now. Very good documentary indeed. Happy to notice that so far there's not much information I didn't know yet For example the Albatros' plywood fusilage, being translated into the game with the "Reinforced Fusilage" technology. The resulting Fighter unit icon for the Germans is - indeed - an Albatros

Good.
I suppose we'll have in the game family units. In case of air, will we have 3 different families like Fighter, Bomber and Reconnaissance?

Xerkis · Post by **Xerkis** » Mon Oct 03, 2011 4:17 pm

Xerkis wrote:
adherbal wrote:
Flyboys

Own this one and just watch it again about 2 weeks ago.
The dog fights are great.
Oppinions differ but I despised that one All the evil germans flying in red Fokker triplanes and the uber evil german flying a black one. That didn't do it for me.

I enjoyed the Red Baron far more. It's still a bit cliché with the love affair etc but at least has some nice historical details and characters. And the uber evil german is (mostly) flying a red Albatros biplane
Point – counterpoint?

That does look like a good one to see. In fact it is now in position 1 of my Netflix list.

Just thought I would let you know that I took your advice and watched Red Baron this weekend. I enjoyed it immensely.

I thought it was a well done movie with excellent aerial combat scenes. The historical feel to it was appreciated, although I have no idea how accurate it was. If it was accurate then awesome; if it wasn’t – well it’s a movie, not a documentary.

Just as you said you didn’t like the over portrayal of the “evil” German flyers in Flyboys, I thought the Red Baron was shown in exact opposite light; almost to the point of being “angelic”. I found that to be a bit distracting, but was able to overlook it enough to get through the film.

I think the cinematography in Flyboys was a slight bit better – but not by much. Story line was excellent, but could have done without quite so much romance in both movies.

All in all if I was to rate them on 1 to 5: Red Barron would get a 4 and Flyboys a 4.5

Rest assured, Red Barron will have to find its way in to my owned collection of movies for sure; but Flyboys had just a slight edge for me.

Thanks again for letting me in on the movie.

Aryaman · Post by **Aryaman** » Mon Oct 03, 2011 6:32 pm

A very interesting academic reading is an article by Jonathan B. A. Bailey, The First World War and the birth of modern warfare, centered around the revolution experienced by the artillery in WW1 and the key role it played through the war.

Cats · Post by **Cats** » Mon Oct 03, 2011 9:21 pm

One of my favorite WW1 movies is "Beneath Hill 60".

Wonderful film...

Xerkis · Post by **Xerkis** » Mon Oct 03, 2011 10:07 pm

Cats wrote:One of my favorite WW1 movies is "Beneath Hill 60".

Wonderful film...

Didn’t they learn anything from 30July1864 Petersburg?

It’s been added to my Netflix list.

maximvs · Post by **maximvs** » Tue Oct 04, 2011 5:30 pm

I agree 'Beneath Hill 60' is a very good film.

Also I enjoyed 'Passchendaele' although it goes a bit over the top (no pun intended) with symbolism at the end.

'Company K' is good too, this is about a company of American Marines going over to France and their subsequent exploits.

Not a movie, but available on DVD is 'The Somme, from Defeat to Victory' is also very good.

And someone has already mentioned 'The Great War' by the BBC - a considered the best factual account and very watchable

As regards books, I've read and really enjoyed all the following (all available in paperback in the UK at least) -

'Somme Mud' EPF Lynch (1st hand account of the Western Front)
'The Reluctant Tommy' R Skirth (1st hand account of the Western Front & Italy)
'True World War I Stories' - collection of 1st hand accounts
'Forgotten Voices of the Great War' Max Arthur
'Forgotten Voices of the Somme' Joshua Levine
'Last Post' Max Arthur
'The Last Fighting Tommy - The life of Harry Patch' Harry Patch & Richard Van Emden

VPaulus · Post by **VPaulus** » Tue Oct 04, 2011 11:18 pm

maximvs wrote: 'Somme Mud' EPF Lynch (1st hand account of the Western Front)
'The Reluctant Tommy' R Skirth (1st hand account of the Western Front & Italy)
'True World War I Stories' - collection of 1st hand accounts
'Forgotten Voices of the Great War' Max Arthur
'Forgotten Voices of the Somme' Joshua Levine
'Last Post' Max Arthur
'The Last Fighting Tommy - The life of Harry Patch' Harry Patch & Richard Van Emden

You seem to like first hand accounts.
May I suggest:
- Storm of Steel - Ernst Jünger
- Goodbye to All That - Robert Graves
- Sagittarius Rising - Cecil Lewis
- Flying Fury: Five Years in the Royal Flying Corps - James McCudden

maximvs · Post by **maximvs** » Wed Oct 05, 2011 2:09 pm

Many thanks!

I'll check them out straight away

ElIndio · Post by **ElIndio** » Wed Oct 05, 2011 4:23 pm

Not quite WWI but 'The Battle of Warsaw 1920' looks interesting and rare for a 'modern film' to highlight this time period.

http://www.cineworld.co.uk/films/4665

adherbal · Post by **adherbal** » Wed Oct 05, 2011 4:31 pm

I suppose we'll have in the game family units. In case of air, will we have 3 different families like Fighter, Bomber and Reconnaissance?

We have Fighters and Bombers (and Airships). Both represent airbases including recon aircraft. So if you keep them close to the frontline they provide LOS - but are also more vulnerable to air attacks (once the necessary techs have been developed).

VPaulus · Post by **VPaulus** » Wed Oct 05, 2011 4:43 pm

ElIndio wrote:Not quite WWI but 'The Battle of Warsaw 1920' looks interesting and rare for a 'modern film' to highlight this time period.

http://www.cineworld.co.uk/films/4665

Thanks for the heads up.

adherbal wrote:We have Fighters and Bombers (and Airships). Both represent airbases including recon aircraft. So if you keep them close to the frontline they provide LOS - but are also more vulnerable to air attacks (once the necessary techs have been developed).

I see.
Most aerodromes were not very far away from the frontline.

Aryaman · Post by **Aryaman** » Thu Oct 06, 2011 11:10 am

One book that is a must is the History of World War by Liddle Hart, not just a narrative of the war, but also an indepth critlcal analysis

Xerkis · Post by **Xerkis** » Fri Nov 25, 2011 9:23 pm

Xerkis wrote:
Cats wrote:One of my favorite WW1 movies is "Beneath Hill 60".

Wonderful film...
Didn’t they learn anything from 30July1864 Petersburg?

It’s been added to my Netflix list.

This just arrived today from Netflix. I hope to watch it sometime this weekend. I must say I already am enjoying it before I even take it out of the envelope – it’s two hours long… I love longer movies.

Xerkis · Post by **Xerkis** » Tue Nov 29, 2011 1:26 pm

Xerkis wrote:
Xerkis wrote:
Cats wrote:One of my favorite WW1 movies is "Beneath Hill 60".

Wonderful film...
Didn’t they learn anything from 30July1864 Petersburg?

It’s been added to my Netflix list.

This just arrived today from Netflix. I hope to watch it sometime this weekend. I must say I already am enjoying it before I even take it out of the envelope – it’s two hours long… I love longer movies.

Thanks Cats. I watched it two nights in a row. It was a very well done film and excellent story line. I must say I never knew about there being a tunnel war as well. I know next to nothing about WW1 but am looking to learn more while we wait for this game.

Xerkis · Post by **Xerkis** » Mon Dec 05, 2011 6:12 pm

Over a period of 6 nights I watched the extended version of “Lord Of The Rings” – and am now working my way through the extra DVDs. This is about the 20 th time for the movie and about the 3rd time for the extras.

I have heard some say that it was inspired and based on WW1. So does this count as an add to the list on here?

doc99 · Post by **doc99** » Thu Jan 05, 2012 12:28 am

Dare Call it Treason (The True Story of the French Army Mutinies of 1917)
Richard M. Watt (Author)

I consider this one of the best and most insightful books on the time that leaves you with a sense of the courage of the troops as well as the futility of the leadsership in it all

Xerkis · Post by **Xerkis** » Mon Jan 16, 2012 12:26 pm

Just started watching a documentary called simply enough, “The First World War”.

I knew very little about WW1 when signing up for the beta testing of this game, but have tried to correct that issue the best I can – mostly through movies and documentaries. Already in only seeing the first two parts of this series, I learned quite a lot about the war. I’m ashamed to say it, but I didn’t even know how it got started; and what I thought was the events was nowhere close to what had happened.

Believe it or not, I do enjoy learning and studying history, but for some odd reason WW1 was always skipped.

I just wanted to mention this series on WW1 and how I have found it to be very enjoyable and helpful to get a better understanding on what it is this game is trying to portray.