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Post by AgentX »

Real nice AAR, Horesman. As far as the Low Countries go, here is my usual core by then: 6 infantry all in half-tracks (usually 2 - Grenadiers, 2 - Fallschirmjager and 2 - Gerbirgsjager), 4 tanks (3 - PzIII's and 1 PzIV), 4 artillery (2 - Sturmpanzer and 2 - 15cm w/halftracks), 4 fighters, 2 Stukas, 1 Me110D, and 1 Ju88. Hopefully, you also have a SE unit or 2 by then as well (preferably SE tanks since 6 infantry is plenty for most of the campaign). So, that's how I usually do it and then add another fighter and a Me110D for the France mission (plus I'll sit my Ju88 out and get another to train for the Sealion '40 map: 2 of them come really handy for dealing with the Royal Navy).

This is my usual purchase tree to that point. Poland: I buy 2 Sturmpanzers and 2 Stukas. Norway: I get a Ju88 and another fighter plus upgrade 2 infantry to Fallschirmjager (2 that don't have trucks), 2 to Grenadiers (the 2 that do have trucks), 1 to Gerbirgsjager (for a total of 2: they really help in the mountainous Norway map), and all tanks to PzIII's. Low Countries: Buy 2 fighters, 1 - 15cm artillery w/half-track and 1 PzIV plus upgrade infantry to half-tracks and the Me110C to a Me110D.

*Note on Norway: Prestige is low supply, so you usually have to wait to get the second fighter at a later turn (there is only 1 enemy fighter on the map so it isn't a high priority (the Ju88 is critical, though, and need to get it for deployment so you can use it right away).
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AgentX wrote:Real nice AAR, Horesman. As far as the Low Countries go, here is my usual core by then: 6 infantry all in half-tracks (usually 2 - Grenadiers, 2 - Fallschirmjager and 2 - Gerbirgsjager), 4 tanks (3 - PzIII's and 1 PzIV), 4 artillery (2 - Sturmpanzer and 2 - 15cm w/halftracks), 4 fighters, 2 Stukas, 1 Me110D, and 1 Ju88. Hopefully, you also have a SE unit or 2 by then as well (preferably SE tanks since 6 infantry is plenty for most of the campaign). So, that's how I usually do it and then add another fighter and a Me110D for the France mission (plus I'll sit my Ju88 out and get another to train for the Sealion '40 map: 2 of them come really handy for dealing with the Royal Navy).

This is my usual purchase tree to that point. Poland: I buy 2 Sturmpanzers and 2 Stukas. Norway: I get a Ju88 and another fighter plus upgrade 2 infantry to Fallschirmjager (2 that don't have trucks), 2 to Grenadiers (the 2 that do have trucks), 1 to Gerbirgsjager (for a total of 2: they really help in the mountainous Norway map), and all tanks to PzIII's. Low Countries: Buy 2 fighters, 1 - 15cm artillery w/half-track and 1 PzIV plus upgrade infantry to half-tracks and the Me110C to a Me110D.

*Note on Norway: Prestige is low supply, so you usually have to wait to get the second fighter at a later turn (there is only 1 enemy fighter on the map so it isn't a high priority (the Ju88 is critical, though, and need to get it for deployment so you can use it right away).
Thats seems like a lot of Prestige to be spending!!!!!! I'm not sure I've made enough to have been able to afford that much

My current thinking is upgrade all 3 arty to 15cm, buy 2 pzIVs upgrade my 2 PZ1s to PzIIIs, buy 1 bridge engineer and upgrade all in without transports to half tracks (leaving 2 in trucks and my Gerbirgsjager on foot to utilise the mountain movement if needed) that'll leave me 1 free core spot to buy a 4th fight once i've earned enough prestige
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Post by AgentX »

Here's a trick for getting just a little more Prestige that you can do next time. On Norway, don't take Trondheim and leave the Victory Hex unoccupied (you can leave a unit next to it so no new enemy units appear). Take Nasmos in the north and then wait it out to the final turn (you can now move the unit away from Trondheim if you want some enemy units to shoot at and get some experience while you wait). Now, the reason you want to get a Marginal Victory is there is no penalty (you still end up at the Low Countries), but you get over 500 more Prestige by waiting to the last turn (instead of getting the Decisive Victory). It is a quirk that I've noted to the developers and hopefully will be addressed (you really should get more Prestige for a DV over a MV). So, when I started Low Countries, my Prestige was at 2681 and was just enough to do all my purchases and upgrades shown above. If you get the DV, then you'll start LC with 500 less Prestige and have to make some tough choices.

As far as your choices, I'd skip the Bridge Engineer, but that's just me. They seem like a waste and I have always been able to do without them (much like Recon units, I never get them either). Much more important to get that 4th fighter up as soon as possible and deal with the enemy airplanes. Also, you say you're going to upgrade 2 PzI's to PzIII's. Don't you already have 3 tanks (you start with 3 in Poland)? Did you lose one (the PzIIC)? Also I like to get my artillery up to 4 units for this map (they are extremely handy).
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Post by Horseman »

I still have my 3 tanks (actually 4 including my SE PzIII) But prestige is tight (a little over 2000 after i reinforce my battered troops) so figure on leaving my PzII for now....that'll leave me with 3 PzIIIs 2 PzIVs and 1 PzII

I am leaning towards leaving the bridgers at home........

Extra core purchases to be 2 tanks, 1 fighter and possiblly a sturmpanzer as I do want to get some self self proppelled arty...i''ll remember that trick for Norway on my next play through!!!!

Well gonna take the plunge soon as itching to get playing again, I was as undecisive about my purchases for Norway too, hope the decisions get easier!

EDIT:
so now im thinking....

2x Panzer IV = 556
1x fighter = 410
1x Sturmpanzer = 327
Total of 1293 for new troops

2xHalftracks = 200
2xPzI to PzIII = 560
3xArty to 15cm = 240
Total of 1000 for upgrades

Total 2293, hmmmm think thats a little more than I can afford I think and means no further overstrenghting over what I alread have (only a couple of units)

Maybe swap 1 pz IV for a Stukka as slightly cheaper and/or hold of on buying a unit until in scenario started......think I have a plan!
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Post by AgentX »

Personally, I think 6 tanks are overkill for this map and 5 will be more than enough (having 4 fighters is more important than 6 tanks). So, my recommendation for your four purchases would be 1 PzIV, 1 Sturmpanzer and 2 fighters. Just my opinion, but we all develop our own strategies.
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Post by Horseman »

AgentX wrote:Personally, I think 6 tanks are overkill for this map and 5 will be more than enough (having 4 fighters is more important than 6 tanks). So, my recommendation for your four purchases would be 1 PzIV, 1 Sturmpanzer and 2 fighters. Just my opinion, but we all develop our own strategies.
Sorry I edited my last post whilst you were replying!!!

I already have 3 fighters so only need 1 more to take me to 4, happily my current thinking matches yours (just swap 1 fighter for 1 stukka!)

Just need to hold off buying 1 unit due to not havin genough Presitige to buy all of what I want strait off
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Post by AgentX »

Oh, cool. Didn't realize you had 3 fighters already (I usually only have 2 since the first two maps have light enemy air). As far as overstrength goes, get your purchases first; its more important to have the right equipment than overstrengthed units. Once you get to France and beyond, Prestige is in more supply and then you can can overstrengthen your units. For me, I don't worry about it on the first three maps; getting the right core army is the most important thing.

*Also, if Prestige is in short supply, you can put off one of your PzIV's and buy it on a later turn. In fact, if you have 5 tanks after the 1 PzIV (since you have a SE tank), you may even consider a 5th artillery piece instead of 6th tank.
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AgentX wrote:Oh, cool. Didn't realize you had 3 fighters already (I usually only have 2 since the first two maps have light enemy air). As far as overstrength goes, get your purchases first; its more important to have the right equipment than overstrengthed units. Once you get to France and beyond, Prestige is in more supply and then you can can overstrengthen your units. For me, I don't worry about it on the first three maps; getting the right core army is the most important thing.
Agree with your assessment on new equiptment versus overstrengthing...think I've wasted a bit of prestige overstrengthing (especially in scenario) and reinforcing in scenario when not really needed as cheaper betwen scenarios, loving this game so much to learn even for a PG Vet!

I was expecting more enemy air in Norway, I was remmeber PG and heavy RAF and Norwegian AF units; hence my 3 fighters
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Post by AgentX »

Here's my last tip before you go on with your campaign. Do some recon. What I mean is check out the map you're going to next by going to the Scenario menu and load up the map (make sure to turn Fog of War off). The maps and enemies are laid out exactly the same as the campaign except your Core army has been chosen and deployed for you. You can then get an idea of what to expect and what the make-up of your army should be. Being a beta-tester, I've played them all enough to know how they are all laid out, but, when I first started, I would often check out the Scenario first to see what was in store. It is also a great aide to helping you with the initial deployment for each map (which can be critical).
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Post by Tarrak »

Horseman wrote: Seems to me you haven't maxed out your corps for low countries? Deployment limit is 22 Units (Plus all your free SE units) and you have only 20 units including 1 SE?
Yes i was very low on prestige. I took some severe losses in Norway to the naval bombardment of the Royal Navy before i could deal with it. No units destroyed but replacements eat a lot of prestige. I decided then to go for quality over quantity for Low Country. Especially initially in the Ardens there are a few bottlenecks where a lot of troops just get stuck while trying to move through. On top of that i had some prestige saved when i started LC to be able to react flexibly to the situation at hand. For example i bought pretty fast an additional Bf109 after i realized how many planes the opponents have.
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May 10th 1940
Following my success in Norway my forces redeployed to the western front
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I am obviously held in some regard at High Command as they assigned a new Regiment to my command which I used to reinforce one of my Divisions.
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New equipment available
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Still fearing my Corps was understrength and not strong enough to effectively carry out Mansteins plan I called in every favour I had and used every last drop of good will I possessed with High Command. This procured me new Panzer IIIFs to re-equip 2 of my Regiments (The Panzer Is) a new green Regiment of Panzer IVDs, a Regiment of Sturmpanzer Artillery, heavy equipment to re-equip 1 Infantry Regiment to Grenadiers, enough Half tracks to mount both Grenadier Regiments and new 15cm guns for all 3 of my Artillery Regiments. I also managed to get a new wing of Bf109Es and a new wing of Ju87Bs assigned to my support Luftflotte.

Sadly my requests for veteran troops to replace my loses was rebuked and my Regiments were brought up to strength with mostly green troops; I would have preferred to not have diluted my veteran core but I appeared to have no influence left at High Command.

I have been given command over several more Regiments for the upcoming invasion though I am told that these will return to their Units once the Low Countries are secured.
The 2 surviving Fallschirmjager Regiments have come with me from Norway along with 2 more Infantry Regiments (1 motorised) an air defence Regiment made up of fearsome 88s, a Regiment of StuGIIIAs, and another wing of Ju88As.

I have deployed my forces with each Division (plus attached support) given their own objectives. As always I will need to maintain a close eye on progress and will stand ready to alter the plan if or rather when the Allies throw a spanner in the works.
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May 10th 1940 (1)
With good weather Operation Fall Gelb has begun.

Following heavy bombardment Maastricht has fallen and Panzer elements from the 1st and 2nd Division cross the river.
The Fallschirmjager have been ordered to remain airborne to act as a mobile reserve.
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The remaining elements of the 2nd Division advance though the Ardennes and make contact with an elite Belgium Regiment blocking the road.
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Luxemburg was easily overrun by the 3rd Division
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A heavy fort turns her guns onto the 1st Divisions Artillery whilst the Belgium airforce makes an appearance
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The Belgium's blocking the road heavily damage the lead Grenadier Regiment but also take heavy loses themselves
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May 11th 1940 (2)
The weather remains ideal for operations

Liege fell today and the nearby fort was taken out. Once more my Panzer Regiments lead the way heavily damaging an Artillery Regiment. An RAF Hurricane wing is also spotted and along with the obsolete Belgium fighters are utterly destroyed by the Luftwaffe in the bid to win total air Supremecy.
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The Belgium elite regiment is forced off of the crossroads and caught disorganised and retreating my my Panzers. The 2nd Division now approaches Dinant.
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In the south the 3rd Division begins to encircle Sedan
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Even as the last hours of daylight approached British Cruiser tanks supported by Infantry from the nearby City counter attack my spearhead and the 1st Divisions Grenadiers come under heavy air bombardment. It will cost much of my Prestige to reinforce these battered units now.
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Two wings of French fighters have appeared to stall the advance of the 2nd Division
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I have instructed my Luftflotte Commander that he must secure air superiority at the very least, Allied planes must not be allowed to disrupt our plans unchecked.
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May 12 1940 (3)
The Luftwaffe reduce the French bomber wing causing massive damage.
On the ground the 1st and 2nd Division force the Belgium Infantry back over the river and destroy both the British tank Regiment and Belgium Artillery. Once more a fort holds up our advance with a stubborn streak.
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Dinant holds out but only just, better news is that both French Fighter wings are destroyed as fighting units.
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Artillery and Air defence supporting Sedan are destroyed and the city itself has been surrounded, at least the 3rd Division appear to be making good progress!
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The 1st Fallschirmjager Regiment has come under fire with Flak!
With the remnants of the French Bombers fleeing no other Allied air units are seen
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I am hoping we have secured air supremacy with the destruction of the French fighters but only time will tell, in the mean time I have instructed my Luftwaffe fighter wings to remain vigilant.
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May 13th 1940 (4)
The 1st Division has taken Leuven and the 2nd Namur. As the Panzers advanced they spotted a Regiment of French Somua S35 Heavy Tanks. A wing of Ju87B bombers caused enough disruption to allow the 1st Division Panzer IIIs to force the French to retreat into the guns of the 2nd Divisions Panzer IVs, advanced tactics and co-operation triumphed once more.
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The other half of the 2nd Division managed to storm Dinant and now advances on Givet.
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The 3rd Division has taken Sedan and whilst advancing makes contact with more French armour, this time one of their “lighter” Regiments.
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Over the course of the fighting over Sedan the 9th Wehrmact Infantry Regiment performed with distinction and have been honoured by High Command
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The 1st of many medals my Corps will receive I am sure.

An Allied AA Regiment attempted to down the Stukkas that shot up the French heavy tanks; my Luftflotte Commander has advised me that our superior training allowed the pilots to fly low enough to avoid the worst of the flak and come away unscathed!
The Belgians have once more left the sanctuary of a city to launch and ill conceived counter attack, the 1st Panzer Division bears the brunt and once more takes heavy loses.
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In the south the French Light tanks attempted an assault against my StuGIIIA Regiment with only minimal causalities on both sides (no step loses)
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May 14th 1940 (5)
The weather remains clear today but tomorrow it is forecast to rain which will hamper our offensive especially if it turns the ground muddy.

The 1st Division with support from the 2nd Division Panzer IVs overrun Brussels clearing out all but the Flak Regiment. This should effectively knock Belgium out of the war.
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Another medal was awarded to a unit under my command
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The 2nd Division along with her attached supporting Regiments capture Charleroi and Givet – great progress
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The French light armour in the south was destroyed with the combined attacks of 2 Panzer Regiments, 1 Grenadier Regiment, 1 Fighter Wing and 2 Artillery Regiments....Light armour may not be the correct terminology for these things!
The 3rd Division also captures the undefended city of Hieson
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The French have launched a counter attack from Maubeuge with an Infantry Regiment and more “light tanks” The 2ns Divisions supporting 88s caught still deploying take a beating but do manage to inflict some loses on the French.
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May 15th 1940 (6)
As predicted we have rain today grounding my supporting Luftflotte so they refuel and rearm ready to support when the weather clears (Hopefully tomorrow)

Lead elements of the 1st Division approach the Scheldt river, we can not see what defences lie on the other side but I am sure the Allies will have reinforced this zone as a major defensive location.
The Belgium Flak Regiment is finished off and more tanks are sent to reinforce the 1st Divisions Panzer IIIs.
Meanwhile both Fallschirmjager Regiments drop behind the lines to help in our efforts to cross the river, there primary targets will be and Artillery covering the crossing points.
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The 2nd Division has encircled Maubeuge and blunted the French counter offensive, they should have remained in their defensive positions
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3rd Division Encircled Saint-Quentin though we have not yet spotted any defending forces as of yet
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May 16th 1940 (7)
The rain has stopped and we should see clear weather for a few days at least.

Ghent had no defences so was easily captured and the 1st Division (now reinforced by 2 Fallschirmjager Regiments) advances east towards Ostend where Belgium resistance continues despite their capital now being occupied.
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It is the 2nd Divisions turn to approach the Scheldt river (though further south!)
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The 3rd Division has failed to capture Saint-Quentin though I do expect it to be in our hands by tomorrow
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The French have reinforced the bomber wing that escaped destruction in the early days of the operations and it now braves the skies attacking an Infantry Regiment causing huge loses, I have sent orders to my support Luftflotte, I expect total and utter control of the skies!
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May 17th !940 (8.)
My Luftflotte does not disappoint and the French Bombers that should have stayed hidden are no more.
The 1st Division pushes hard forcing the Infantry regiment to retreat and destroying the Artillery in Ostend.
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The 2nd Division pauses to resupply and to allow rear elements to move up to better positions.
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Abbeville is well defended including British Cruiser tanks and armoured cars
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The counter attack did not break my flank
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May 18th 1940 (9)
The 1st Division destroy the last Belgium Regiments and push on to Dunkirk, the last free Belgium city of Ypres has no garrison.
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A strong British presence of 4 whole Regiments defend Lille (1xInf, 1x Eng, 1x 6” Art and 1x 2 pounder) The 2nd Divisions initial attacks make progress and the encirclement begins.
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My Luftflotte Commander informed me that he needed to withdraw his bombers for refueling, after much consideration I order him to keep his planes flying, the 3rd Division is tasked with capturing at least one of the airfields quickly. They have had to wait for their infantry to be brought forward as the airfields are well guarded by French Anti tank Regiments but their tanks got into action against the British
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The British at Lille launched a heavy attack against the 24th Grenadier Regiment and took heavy loses including the complete destruction of their Anti tank guns. My Regiment held firm
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In the south the British Cruiser tanks continue to attack my flank but the StuGs stand their ground, the Panzer IIs are not so lucky and are forced to retreat against the Anti tank fire
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