VMD & Interceptions

[gozerius]

Rules not on me but there may be a wrinkle...

Intercept moves are before evade moves. However, the point at which Kn2 stops being a target is when the Cv decide to evade. Does this occur prior to the intercept charge decision?

The Knights remain a target until the evading cav physically move out of the original path of the charge. So after the intercept moves.

[expendablecinc]

In the same way as there is an official expanded index it woudl be worthwhile to have an expanded turn sequence.

declare charges including charge path
declare intent to prevent a charge
declare intercept charges (and distance)
delcare evades
roll to avoid charging
roll to charge is test is needed
roll test to avoid breaking if target and fragmented
make initial pursuits for newly broken troops
make al lintercept moves (in owning player order)
roll all evade vmds
make all evade moves (in owning player order)
roll vmd for chargers
roll to stand , vmd or break tests for new targets as a result of vmd and evades.
make all charge moves
blah blah blah

It would save a lot of these issues I think and also avoid an faq on particualr instances. "when you you have to declare you path etc..."

I did try to do a fully expanded sequence of play but it is actually quite hard to do, especially where you can have things like one BG fighting in multiple impacst in one turn.

By your list and by the rules though Kn2 don't seem to be able to intercept because at the point they would declare an interception charge they are the target of a charge.

At it happens that is the way I would rule it as well. It is aligned with the diagram and picture in the book where is states that the cav can intercept because they cant be the target of the charging legionaires even with the legionaires step forward move. The cant declare an intercept at the point they are required to declare it. Of course later in the piece it may not eventuate that they coudl be contacted - but that is irrelevant.

PS I dont think my suggested sequence is entirely accurate. rereading it the day after I think you have to roll to see if you can charge and whether you can halt impetuous troops before an opponent has to decide whether they are evading/intercepting. They have to know that a charge is coming before they even have a decision to make.

[expendablecinc]

If the Cav choose to evade out of the path, the knights are no longer targets, but could become targets again if the charger rolls high on its VMD

Just to throw further confusion into this, since the Knights are a target when the charge is declared, not all of the targets will have evaded, so presumably the charger doesn't get a VMD.

But the knights arent the target of the charge. in fact you cannot declare a charge on someone outside charge range. its just they they cant themselves declare an intercept becuase they "may" be the conacted with a stepforward.

The knights cant intercept and a vmd is required.. i think without rule book to confirm.

[kevinj]

Any enemy BG in the path counts as being charged "even if it can only be contacted by bases stepping forward". P52

[awesum4]

I believe this situation is covered on P63, 4th point. "A battle group that is itself charged cannot intercept. This applies even if a charge was declared on it, if it is in the path of a charge and would be contacted (including by bases stepping forward) if no friendly battle group evaded."
Exactly the situation in the diagram surely.