Commendations, Caches, and Collectables

[VirgilInTheSKY]

Where do we see on the screen right now how many Commendations points we have ? I can no longer find this indication...

It is not implented for AOs before AO 41 yet.

[adiekmann]

CPs appear in the top bar, to the right of where Influence is shown. However, this is only for AO 41 and AO 42. Previous DLCs don't have the feature. Could that be why you're not seeing it? Kerensky mentioned at some point wanting to back-port it to the earlier DLCs, but of course that kind of work has to be weighed against work for future DLCs.

Yes, that's it. I'm playing AO 1940 and there is no CPs indicator


AO 1940

The CP indicator was added with the release of AO41. They mentioned plans to try to retrofit it into the previous DLCs, but that has not been done (yet). Player feedback requesting it drove the devs to incorporate it, but I guess they haven't been able to do so with earlier DLCs. Don't know if they still plan to do it and other priorities have just constantly pushed it further down the "to do" list.

[jeannot le lapin]

I didn’t see any options in the Editor about Commendations points to make them appear in the game.

Lua script ?

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[Wolfenguard]

Rzhev 1942:
9500 Prestige Reset for 15 Prototypes Tiger(P) and 29 Captured T-34-57 tanks
15 Prototypes Tiger(P) in exchange with the Jagdtiger Prototypes token from AO 41 Klin challenge objective.

whats your opinion about the 15 Prototypes for the ao41 klin Challenge (capture 100KV1 and survive of all Transports)
i think its a little bit less what you get for this Challenge, especially when you use the trait for Prototypes, (i think i get 30 or more of this prototype with the trait and some of the normal Tiger and in the last missions panthers)

[BaronVonKrieg]

Rzhev 1942:
9500 Prestige Reset for 15 Prototypes Tiger(P) and 29 Captured T-34-57 tanks
15 Prototypes Tiger(P) in exchange with the Jagdtiger Prototypes token from AO 41 Klin challenge objective.

whats your opinion about the 15 Prototypes for the ao41 klin Challenge (capture 100KV1 and survive of all Transports)
i think its a little bit less what you get for this Challenge, especially when you use the trait for Prototypes, (i think i get 30 or more of this prototype with the trait and some of the normal Tiger and in the last missions panthers)

yup playing with industrial connections kinda defeats the notion of prototypes that you get trough bonuses

[Magni]

There are some fixes and changes coming up in AO 42, with some extra attention towards Caches of Lend-Lease equipment.

Extra Lend-Lease caches? Welp, guess I'll have to restart the whole campaign for a third time.

[Kerensky]

Rzhev 1942:
9500 Prestige Reset for 15 Prototypes Tiger(P) and 29 Captured T-34-57 tanks
15 Prototypes Tiger(P) in exchange with the Jagdtiger Prototypes token from AO 41 Klin challenge objective.

whats your opinion about the 15 Prototypes for the ao41 klin Challenge (capture 100KV1 and survive of all Transports)
i think its a little bit less what you get for this Challenge, especially when you use the trait for Prototypes, (i think i get 30 or more of this prototype with the trait and some of the normal Tiger and in the last missions panthers)

yup playing with industrial connections kinda defeats the notion of prototypes that you get trough bonuses

Everyone has access to a few Tiger (P) When *SPOILER* Arrives with the supplies. And then people with the Klin objective get a chance to get even more of them. I also think those T34-57s are quite good, and extremely rare to find in a normal battlefield to capture.

Also, Industry connections are pretty random, where these rewards are consistent, which is nice.

[Kerensky]

There are some fixes and changes coming up in AO 42, with some extra attention towards Caches of Lend-Lease equipment.

Extra Lend-Lease caches? Welp, guess I'll have to restart the whole campaign for a third time.

I hope you enjoyed your runs so far, but I think more than any DLC so far 1942 is definitely going to be different to run post launch. There is a huge changelog that grows by the day as we go back and really give it some much needed fixes. It also gives us a chance to throw in some extra improvements.

[FunPolice749]

Rzhev 1942:
9500 Prestige Reset for 15 Prototypes Tiger(P) and 29 Captured T-34-57 tanks
15 Prototypes Tiger(P) in exchange with the Jagdtiger Prototypes token from AO 41 Klin challenge objective.

whats your opinion about the 15 Prototypes for the ao41 klin Challenge (capture 100KV1 and survive of all Transports)
i think its a little bit less what you get for this Challenge, especially when you use the trait for Prototypes, (i think i get 30 or more of this prototype with the trait and some of the normal Tiger and in the last missions panthers)

yup playing with industrial connections kinda defeats the notion of prototypes that you get trough bonuses

Everyone has access to a few Tiger (P) When *SPOILER* Arrives with the supplies. And then people with the Klin objective get a chance to get even more of them. I also think those T34-57s are quite good, and extremely rare to find in a normal battlefield to capture.

Also, Industry connections are pretty random, where these rewards are consistent, which is nice.

I know it probably won't change but I just want to say it felt like it was kind of a letdown to just get a couple more Tiger P for all the hard work it took to get the Jagdtiger token. If it was like for an early Panther or normal Tiger I could get behind it but the reward felt lacking for the work required imo. Tbh I would rather have the 100 KV1 than just 15 Tiger P looking back.
I don't expect anything to change with this one (although I wouldn't mind at all if did change to something more exclusive) but I hope at least the Me262 token and similar long term rewards don't end up just being "15 Me 262
on top of the 15 you can get regardless".

[Wolfenguard]

There are some fixes and changes coming up in AO 42, with some extra attention towards Caches of Lend-Lease equipment.

Extra Lend-Lease caches? Welp, guess I'll have to restart the whole campaign for a third time.

I hope you enjoyed your runs so far, but I think more than any DLC so far 1942 is definitely going to be different to run post launch. There is a huge changelog that grows by the day as we go back and really give it some much needed fixes. It also gives us a chance to throw in some extra improvements.

Will only the ao42 get some changes or the others too?
Try to make a new run with a different unit setup

[Kerensky]

Will only the ao42 get some changes or the others too?
Try to make a new run with a different unit setup

AO42 has priority for fixes and improvements, but revisiting past DLC is not off the table. We still have yet to find the time to give them improvements such as displaying the Commendation Point count in the UI, but I promise it's not something we have forgotten about. Just need to find some time for it amongst all the other urgent tasks to keep the Panzer Corps 2 machine running smoothly and efficiently.

[Stephen1024]

Will only the ao42 get some changes or the others too?
Try to make a new run with a different unit setup

AO42 has priority for fixes and improvements, but revisiting past DLC is not off the table. We still have yet to find the time to give them improvements such as displaying the Commendation Point count in the UI, but I promise it's not something we have forgotten about. Just need to find some time for it amongst all the other urgent tasks to keep the Panzer Corps 2 machine running smoothly and efficiently.

Hi is there going to be way to change colour of the dots etc on maps. White on snow is hard see.

Thanks nice know that improvements will be made. Do understand that lot going on and Pacific will change lot things to. So balance and improvements will be gradual but on going thing. Am enjoying all so far.

[Wolfenguard]

Good to hear that the old ao get maybe a revisit
Especially the England scenario where the rescued hipper came to the rescue and get sunk with all the other ships maybe we have then a chance to rescue all the ships

[SirAllan]

In Kharkov 42 I got 1CP for eliminating both Russian Corps, but it never showed up in the top bar.
I held the 3 Victory Hexes at Kharkov, but seemed not getting any prize for it - shouldnt there be one and what should it be?
I manage to keep the Romania HQ survive but didnt get any bonus for doing so - what was the bonus supposed to be?

[SirAllan]

Is there a "cheat" code for getting Commendation points and if so what is the code for it- so I can get the ones that the game dont give?

[BaronVonKrieg]

Is there a "cheat" code for getting Commendation points and if so what is the code for it- so I can get the ones that the game dont give?

i dont think there is

[CaesarCzech]

Is there a "cheat" code for getting Commendation points and if so what is the code for it- so I can get the ones that the game dont give?

i dont think there is

you can edit the ammount of cp awarded just edit scenario via Notepad+ before you launch it

[Stormchaser]

Kept you waiting, didn't I?

AO 1942 East
Rzhev '42
Events
Taking things from the top, we have the Special Heroes and Units granted to players that did not import a Core.
Hero wise all the familiar faces from 1941 return save for Galland, who is replaced by a somewhat nerfed Hans-Ulrich Rudel who only possesses Double Attack and Tank Killer. Also, our old friend von Bonde is now Famous, good for him!
As for Units you will get an Azul Infanterie, the 5 Strength Dicker Max Gift Unit you could purchase in 1941, and an He 111Z Gift Unit.

On Turn 8, a Wagner returns, and he brings gifts! For resetting your Prestige to 9500 (Which funnily enough, will actually increase your Prestige if you started without an import.) Wagner grants you 15 Tiger (P) and 29 T-34-57.
While not the more famous version, the Tiger P is still a Tiger, and the stats reflect that, including in Slot cost.
Much like the Tiger (P), the T-34-57 is a solid step up from your current Panzers.

In addition to the main Wagner event, you also are quickly given the opportunity to turn in the Jagdtiger token from Klin for another 15 Tiger (P).
On one hand, 100 KV-1s and an escort mission in exchange for only 15 Tiger (P) might seem like a poor trade, however by this point you're able to capture 1941 and later KV-1 models making the '40 model obsolete, and the Tiger itself is both stronger and this gives you much more of a buffer for repairs. Up to you whether it's worth it or not.

Objectives:
Destroying the encircling enemies gives you 1 Commendation per group, giving you 3 total.

Cache
A village at 5,3 contains a Soviet stockpile of 25 KV-2, 30 T-50, 9 T-34-57, and 21 Yak-1.
The T-50 is essentially a faster version of your Panzer IIIJs, and while I can’t speak for everyone, I for one will take an additional point of movement of a minor decrease in air defense on a tank every time.
Much like many captured Soviet Aircraft, the Yak-1 fails to compete against your best German Fighters.

A village at 6,32 contains a cache of Italian equipment originally captured by the Soviets, and now captured by you. Contains 45 L6/40 LF, 45 AB 41, and 45 L40 da 47/32.
The AB 41 is essentially a better version of your SdKfz 222s while still being weaker than your SdKfz 232 8Rads. However, thanks to it costing 2 Slots like the 222 and not 3 Slots like the 232, it can still be useful for Slot budgeting purposes.
The L40 Tank Destroyer provides some interesting tradeoffs compared to your Jagerpanzer 35Rs making it a decent alternative.


Demyansk Pocket
Events
At the start you can buy 35 Panzer IIIN Prototypes for 2 Commendations.
Despite being a Panzer III, the IIIN is more of a direct upgrade to your Panzer IVs, and it is a significant one, especially with an actual Close Defense value.

Objectives:
Protecting all the Ju 52s will earn you 3 Commendations.
Total: Earned 6/Spent 2

Cache
Ostashkov contains a cache of 25 MiG-3, 25 Yak-1, and 19 Ilyushin Il-4.
The stats of the Il-4 are roughly on par with your best German Strategic Bombers, which makes the fact that it costs 1 more Slot than them an damning issue.

Operation Cerberus
Events
At the start you are given 15 Fw 190As, and are given the option to buy an additional 15 and 19 Bf 109Z for 3 Commendations.
The 190 is a significant upgrade over your Bf 109, but costs 5 Slots instead of 3. Up to you to decide is the stats are worth deploying a single Fighter where you could almost deploy 2.

Objectives:
2 Commendations each for sinking the Home Fleet and Navy in general.
Total: Earned 10/Spent 5

Kummersdorf '42
Events
As is typical by now Training Scenarios double as Event dispensers, starting with the option to exchange 1 Commendation for 15 Tiger (P).

On Turn 4 and 5 you get very similar events. Both cost 3 Commendations (Meaning you have to skip the Panzer IIIN or Fw 190 if you want to get both of these), both grant a Hero for Anti-Tanks/Anti-Aircraft, and their Traits are extremely similar.
First up is Karla Wuhrer, who has Rapid Fire 2x and Fast Learner, and then you meet Karl Ullman, also with Rapid Fire 2x but with Learns from Mistakes instead of Fast Learner.
Rapid Fire 2x is one of the strongest Hero Traits you can get, and that alone makes these two worth it in my opinion. If you can't pass up the Panzers and 190s or couldn't get enough Commendations to buy both, I would recommend Karla as Fast Learner is usually the better exp gain Trait.

Finally, on Turn 7 you can exchange the SU-100Y token you may have picked up in Moscow for 15 T-34-57 and 30 Su-122.
The Su-122 is a very potent Tank Destroyer, and can perform double duty with it's ability to switch to an SPG mode.

Objectives:
Total: Earned 10/Spent 8

Kerch Peninsula
Objectives:
Defeating the Soviets can earn you 2 Commendations.
Total: Earned 12/Spent 8

Cache
2 caches here to find, the first being at a fortification right by Kerch itself. This one contains a batch of British Lend Lease equipment: 25 Churchill Mk.II, 31 Spitfire Mk.II, 35 Beaufighter Mk.IF, and 40 Hurricane Mk.IID.
While the Churchill is a bit slower and has less firepower than your Panzers, it does have a considerably higher set of defense stats, including 2 points in Close defense.
This new model of Hurricane is a Fighter-Bomber, and is even better at that role than the Beaufighters (Particularly against Hard targets), which are still better than your Bf 110s. However, they have less range and cost an extra Slot in exchange for those otherwise mostly superior stats.

The second cache is at a Village located at 33,14, and it contains 19 MiG-3, 25 Yak-1, and 23 Sukhoi Su-2.
As is typical of captured Soviet Aircraft so far, the Su-2 is inferior to your German aircraft.

Second Battle of Kharkov
Events
Another opportunity arrives to restock you Bf 109Z supply, 21 for 3 Commendation.

Objectives:
Both Objectives give 1 Commendation.
Total: Earned 14/Spent 11

Voronezh
Objectives:
Taking out the HQ grants 1 Commendation.
Total: Earned 15/Spent 11

Cache
An Airfield at 33,4 contains 25 Yak-1, 10 La-5, and 21 Ilyushin Il-4.
Not only is the La-5 a big step up from previous Soviet Fighters, it even beats your Bf 109Gs! On the other hand, it costs 5 Slots. Like the Fw 190s, up to you to decide if the stats are worth the price.

Voroshilovgrad SDO
Events
Remember those Toldi Is the Hungarians kept giving us in 1941? Well, now you can buy 50 Toldi IIa for 3 Commendations.
Now, while the Toldi I was only really good for flavor or Collector runs, the IIa is actually useful. Better defense and cheaper on Slots than your Panzer IIC, if you still want to deploy some Light Tanks these make good additions to your army.

Objectives:
Both Objectives grant 1 Commendation.
Total: Earned 17/Spent 14

Novorossiysk/Operation Nordilicht
Objectives:
You get 2 Commendations for preventing Soviet sabotage in Novorossiysk, and 1 Commendation each for defeating both Armies in Nordilicht.
Total: Earned 19/Spent 14

Cache
In Novorossiysk, an Airfield at 24,50 has a cache of 34 MiG-3, 28 Pe-3, and 11 La-5.
The Pe-3 is a bit of a weird Fighter considering its stats have more in common with your Bf110 than your 109s, better ground attack and range but weaker defense and air attack.

Grozny/Lake Ladoga
Events
Both Scenarios have a Commendation Event, however their implementation is quite different.

At the start of Grozny, you can spend 2 Commendations for 35 StuG IIIG Tank Destroyers.
The StuG III is, as you might expect, an upgraded version of your existing Anti-Tank StuGs, with an increase in pretty much every relevant stat and even a couple points of Close Defense. It does cost 4 Slots however, compared to the 3 StuGs previously did.

In Lake Ladoga, on the other hand, you have to make sure you fulfill the special objective, and then near the end of the Scenario you are given 2 Commendations, soon followed by the ability to spend 2 Commendation to recruit Goro von Manstein, an Infantry Specialist with Zero Slots and Vigilant. While this combination would be absurdly great for armored units, it's still quite useful for Infantry, particularity the high Slot cost close combat specialist Azur Infanterie.

Objectives:
The 2 objectives in Grozny and the Bonus Objective in Lake Ladoga give 1 Commendation each, and as mention the Ladoga Special objectives gives an additional 2 Commendations.
Total: Earned 21 (22 on the Leningrad Route)/Spent 16

Cache
All 3 caches are found in Grozny. The first is unskippable as it is located at the Primary Objective of Mirnyy, and it contains 26 Spitfire Mk.II, 19 Spitfire Mk.VB, and 28 Beaufighter Mk.IF.
While the Mk.II has been surpassed by your Bf 109Gs, the new Spitfire Mk.VB surpasses the 109G in turn. It is still weaker than the Fw 190A, but the 190 takes 5 Slots.

Another lend lease cache can be found at Nazran, holding 19 Churchill Mk.II, 41 Sherman Mk.I, and 45 Crusader CS.
Shermans are pretty comparable to your Panzer IIIs with more of an emphasis on Soft Attack, and while weaker than your newest Panzer IVs, the top of the line IVs available at this point cost 5 Slots while the Shermans only cost 4 like your Panzer IIIs.
The Crusader CS are essentially StuG IIIBs with an extra point of movement, and as I said earlier, I’ll almost always take the extra Movement for ground units.

Finally, the cache at the 48,21 airfield contains 17 La-5 and 29 Tupolev Tu-2.
The Tupolev has better defenses and range than your Ju 87s, but has weaker ground attack stats which is not usually a great tradeoff for a bomber.

Note
We interrupt your usually scheduled guide to talk about the elephant in the room.
In the past, Route splits containing rewards have either given the same reward (the Neubaufahrzeug) or kept the rewards at least somewhat similar in nature and value (the Fokker D.XXI vs Char B1, the Char B1 is a far more useful unit, but you get a lot more D.XXI and captured aircraft are a rarity).
This time however, you get a choice between 2 very different prizes. In the North, you get the chance to recruit a powerful Hero. In the south, you get to loot a bunch of caches of useful equipment and buy some prototypes.
Generally, I'd say that a Hero that will be useful until the end of the war is the superior reward over equipment that will eventually become obsolete. However, some people don't like playing with Heroes (Or at least not high power ones), and some people might value playing with more captured equipment to be, well, the funner option.
My advice here is don't let yourself feel trapped into going to Leningrad just because that's how you get a special Hero. Both routes have unique rewards, and the types of rewards and the nature of the Scenarios themselves lend themselves to different playstyles, so do feel free to pick the route that you want, not some so called "best" route.
With that said, back to your usual guide.

Bombing Stalingrad
Events
You can buy 35 He 219 for 3 Commendation here.
The 219 is better than your 109s and arguably better than the 190s do to being cheaper on the Slot cost for fairly competitive stats.

Objectives:
All 4 Objectives grant 1 Commendation.
Total: Earned 25/Spent 19

Streets of Stalingrad
Objectives:
Each Raid Objective gives 1 Commendation.
Total: Earned 28/Spent 19

Assault on Stalingrad
Events
2 Events for spending Commendations this Scenario. First you get the option of spending 5 Commendations for 45 Tiger I.
It’s a Tiger tank and it has the stats to prove it, and whether they truly deserve it or not they are one of the legendary tanks of WW2.

A few turns in you can choose to spend 3 more Commendations for 26 Bf 109Z, 22 He 219, 22 Spitfire Mk.II, and 9 Spitfire Mk.VB.

On a side note, as far as I can tell, it doesn't matter which of the 2 objectives you accomplish (or if you managed to complete both), you actually choose to evacuate on schedule or stay and help between this Scenario and the next, regardless of the Objectives accomplished.

Objectives:
Total: Earned 28/Spent 27

Operation Winter Storm/Operation Blut
Events
By checking the game files, if you choose and complete Operation Blut you recieve a single captured SMG Inf token, which is what I presume will unlock whatever alt-history changes caused by your choice here.

[impar]

Kept you waiting, didn't I?

Thanks for this!
For me it is just in time, currently at the last AO 1941 scenario.

[nexusno2000]

Some errors I noticed in my most recent playthrough:

04 Kummersdorf: 1 for Tiger (P), 2 for each of the heroes (not 3 each)