H.Balck's unit factory part I (1939-41)

[HBalck]

Somua S-35 added !

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[Chris10]

Great effort..
I really admire your dedication

[HBalck]

Canon de 75 mle 1897 / Ordnance QF 25 pounder / Matilda I added !


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[HBalck]

40 mm Bofors added !

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[HBalck]

Cruiser Tank Mk. III+IV (A13) / PzkpfwIA / PSW231(6Rad) / Kfz 13 added !

A big Thank you goes to Oleg Pomoshnikov (http://gunpoint-3d.com) to give me all his nice models !

H.Balck

[HBalck]

Steyr ADGZ added !
Note I will rework all the german units with a more proffesional camo like this new ADGZ !

A big Thank you goes to Oleg Pomoshnikov (http://gunpoint-3d.com) to give me all his nice models !

H.Balck

[Chris10]

Note I will rework all the german units with a more proffesional camo like this new ADGZ !
H.Balck

Aber nich in Blau oder ?

[HBalck]

But not in blue or ?

Blue grey - is the factory camo for 1939/40. I don't know - do you like the old ones or the new ?
I dont like my old grey - I am searching for a new one, but I will close this mod side next - a low interest here - Sorry.

H.Balck

[Chris10]

But not in blue or ?

Blue grey - is the factory camo for 1939/40. I don't know - do you like the old ones or the new ?
I dont like my old grey - I am searching for a new one, but I will close this mod side next - a low interest here - Sorry.

H.Balck

I am to lazy to translate this so Iam going to qoute the german article

Wer sich mit den Tarnanstrichen der deutschen Wehrmach beschäftigt, der stößt alsbald auf ein im wahrsten Sinne des Wortes buntes Durcheinander. Im folgenden unternehmen wir den Versuch, die Tarnlackierungen der Wehrmacht Heer für die Zeit zwischen 1939 und 1945 zumindest in Grundzügen darzustellen. Bereits an dieser Stelle sei jedoch darauf hingewiesen, dass wir dabei nicht den Anspruch der Vollständigkeit erheben.

Ab 1922 verwendete die Reichswehr einen dreifarbigen Buntfarbenanstrich, der sich aus den matten Farben Dunkelgrau, Dunkelgrün und Dunkelbraun zusammensetzte. Der Tarnanstrich wurden in unregelmäßigen Flecken ausgeführt und deckte das ganze Fahrzeug ab. Ab 1935 ordnete die oberste Heeresleitung die Verwendung neuer Farbtypen an. Dazu gehörten Dunkelgrau, Dunkelbraun und Grün. Dunkelgrau sollte rund drei Viertel des Fahrzeuges abdecken, während Dunkelbraun und Grün auf das verbliebene Viertel zu verteilen waren. Ab 1940 war mit der farblichen Vielfalt zunächst Schluss.

Einfarbig in panzergrau, dunkelgelb und sandgelb

Das Oberkommando des Heeres (OKH) entschied sich in der Heeresmitteilung (HM) Nr. 864 für einen einfarbigen und werksseitig aufgebrachten, panzergrauen Anstrich (RAL 7021).Dieser galt bis die Heeresmitteilung (HM) Nr. 181 von 1943 einen neuen Anstrich vorschrieb. Dunkelgelb (RAL 7028) hieß von jetzt an die Farbe, die auf allen Kriegsschauplätzen als Tarnlackierung eingesetzt werden sollte. Theoretisch hätten alle Wehrmachtsfahrzeuge in der neuen Farbe lackiert werden sollen. Da die Farbe selbst aber schon das Ergebnis materieller Knappheit war und die Truppen an der Front bereits anderes zu tun hatten, als ihr Gerät neu zu lackieren, blieben auch die Vorgängerfarben bis zum Kriegsende präsent. Das neue Dunkelgelb (RAL 7028) war im übrigen nicht identisch mit dem sandgelben RAL 8000 des Afrikakorps.

Angeordnete Mehrfarbtarnungen

Zu Beginn des Afrika-Feldzuges bestimmte noch Panzergrau das Bild. Da nichts vorbereitet war, sollen die Fahrzeugbesatzungen zunächst hilfsweise auf eine Mischung aus Öl und echtem Wüstensand zurückgegriffen haben. Wer Glück hatte und von den italienischen Verbündeten deren Wüstentarnfarbe bekam oder Tarnfarbe beim Gegner erbeutete, konnte sein Gerät bereits mit einen ordentlichen, wenn auch inoffiziellen Anstrich versehen. Erst die Heeresmitteilung HM Nr. 281 legte 1941 die offiziellen DAK-Wüstentarnfarben fest: das senffarbene Gelbbraun (RAL 8000) oder das graugrüne RAL 7008...............
For checking colors
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/RAL-Farbe

The article continues but I think you know were Iam coming from...there never have been a blue-grey as official vehicle color in the Wehrmacht...
I would suggest you finish your unit rosters for 1939/1940 and th continue with complete unit rosters per nation and not per year...that way you see that you will finish something and Iam sure other will positively feedback this too...and dont worry about camo...start producing camo for units since 1941 onwards...there was plenty then..

btw the Facebook link you embedded in your profile about Leg XIII Gemina doesnt work....roman empire is my other speciality apart from WWII..funny,isnt it?

[Ballermann]

But not in blue or ?

Blue grey - is the factory camo for 1939/40. I don't know - do you like the old ones or the new ?
I dont like my old grey - I am searching for a new one, but I will close this mod side next - a low interest here - Sorry.

I like the old ones
And i hope you dont close this tread.
I think many, many gamers like your units, but not everbody post it.

[VPaulus]

Your grey looks good to me.

[El_Condoro]

But not in blue or ?

Blue grey - is the factory camo for 1939/40. I don't know - do you like the old ones or the new ?
I dont like my old grey - I am searching for a new one, but I will close this mod side next - a low interest here - Sorry.

I like the old ones
And i hope you dont close this tread.
I think many, many gamers like your units, but not everbody post it.

Yes, I agree. As said above, doing them year by year means a campaign designer can't use them until the whole nation is finished (if the campaign spans many years or the whole war). I know that I will make an option for Maelstrom and Red Dawn to use your US, German and Russian units for 1943-45 when they're done but I can't afford to wait until they're all done to do the mods. Perhaps finish Germany first, then go to the others?

[rezaf]

I agree, minor nitpicks aside, I think your graphics look great, but I couldn't even start a campaign with them right now - my first advisary would be Poland, and that nation is sitting around unfinished since forever now, while you made forays into 1941 and finished the odd unit from nations all over the place.

Early in this thread you wrote it was a conscious choice NOT to make your units blend in with the stock units, but that also has the effect that, to have a consistent look, ALL units should be from you / your style.
You want people to actually use your stuff more (and comment/discuss about it)? Finish up Poland, Norway and France, and allow people to at least play '39 and '40 using your units.

That said, I'm also kinda underwhelmed by the activity on the forums these days, but here's hoping that Rudankort's return means the game/engine will actually be moved forward again in meaningful ways, prompting some new (and old) faces to (re-)appear.
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rezaf

[HBalck]

Yes - I will set the old grey textures. Germany, Poland, France, Russia and UK will be finished in the next 10 days.
BTW - I think the PC is dead yet - no new features, patches etc. I think, they are employed with new projects, not with Panzer Corps.
I dont like to play the confused and small level content campaigns and bought all - but they looking so unhistorical - its to terribible for me - to play it.
I dream for a new game - PC can't fulfill my dreams. I will see my units in an PG2 (PG3D) like game with many more features and micro manegment possibilities, full animated 360° figures. ingame briefing animations and much more detailed terrain pads.

H.Balck

[El_Condoro]

No, PzC is not dead. Rudankort is posting on the forum and has intimated that development goes ahead. Kerensky has said as much a number of times and Iain said it would be developed and supported for another year or more, at least. There is a major press event happening this week and I won't be surprised if PzC is mentioned in what Slitherine plans to do. I will be staying tuned...

[Ballermann]

Yes - I will set the old grey textures. Germany, Poland, France, Russia and UK will be finished in the next 10 days.

Wunderbar thats very good news

BTW - I think the PC is dead yet - no new features, patches etc. I think, they are employed with new projects, not with Panzer Corps.

I dont think so, not yet

and much more detailed terrain pads.

I think you have many good looking terrain pads, why not show us and maybe upload ?

[Chris10]

Yes - I will set the old grey textures. Germany, Poland, France, Russia and UK will be finished in the next 10 days.
BTW - I think the PC is dead yet - no new features, patches etc. I think, they are employed with new projects, not with Panzer Corps.
I dont like to play the confused and small level content campaigns and bought all - but they looking so unhistorical - its to terribible for me - to play it.
I dream for a new game - PC can't fulfill my dreams. I will see my units in an PG2 (PG3D) like game with many more features and micro manegment possibilities, full animated 360° figures. ingame briefing animations and much more detailed terrain pads.

H.Balck

Is nun mal kein Wunschkonzert and 360° animated figures are nonsens for a hexgame...maximum would be 6 directions (for each hexside one direction) but it would render the game very difficult to mod cause people would have to produce lots of images for a single unit so it would not encourage more modding...the engine itself goes far beyond Panzer General so I dont understand why you are always so negative...use the existing engine to full extend and things are just fine for the moment. I will prove that statement with Panzercorps East..there can always be more features and stuff but Panzer General became famous cause of its simplicity and serious hex wargamers sort of laughed always about PG as childsplay...although I agree there could be a few more mechanics and more generic working strings in the exe so that people can free programm new terrain types or unit classes..the same holds true for some internal mechanics like evade, assigning specific transports to units in the equipment file and so on..minor things really...
anway Rudankort is back as he is posting in this moment in the main forum so something will be done in the future...
On the other hand you announce and embark in huge projects which are far to much to handle for one person and then you find yourself bogged down in an overwhelming amount of work and the end of the story is that you get nothig really done to 100%.
As far as I understood you are a teacher in a high school so you should even more be able to realisticly evaluate the amount of work needed for a project and if you can finish it in an acceptable timeframe and if not, just stay back or look for a team before starting...and even more important when it comes to public forums is that you act nice and behave as if you are in some sort of a team,look at it as if you would be in some sort of soccer team...one can be Beckenbauer or Pele but it doesnt matter how skilled,talented or dedicated you are, in the end you need the team to assist and to play the game...soccer and forum activiy including modding is a bit similar to a team sport...you always need the others sooner or later...be nice and others will be nice and publicly bashing or dismissing other peoples efforts is certainly not nice and will not make any friends. You are always free to think to yourself what you want though>WINK>ZAUNPFAHL
If you upload your units then others have to be free to use them,reskin them or paint them in pink or whatever color they are pleased with as long as they credit you for the unit...uploading your stuff and putting up conditions under which terms the units can be used or not is not the spirit of the modding comunity and never has been part of it. Be generous and be nice and people will support you and even assist you in time of need or maybe join a project but before these things can happen you have to behave like a friend and less like a teacher so I would start deleting the "Gurkentruppen seid Ihr alle..." cause its not appropiate and not even true...so..das musste mal gesagt werden...deine Units sind Klasse aber Du musst wirklich mehr auf die Leute im Forum zugehen (Ich sag das wegen Verschiedener Dinge die hier und im Matrix Forum gelaufen sind)..das ist hier kein Klassenraum wo Du vorne vor Deinen Schülern stehst...Einige hier sind so wie ich Anfang-Mitte 40. Also...nix für Ungut und auf ein Neues

[HBalck]

You can much talk here - you have not the work !

76 mm divisional gun M1902 / 7.7 cm FK 96 n.A. / Ordnance QF 18 pounder added !


H.Balck

[flakfernrohr]

HBalck: your units are great, but I agree, trickling them into the forum to download and play with at the rate that is happening in a random order is not a lot of use in some ways. It drags everything out for modders.

Why not share some of the very nice German and Russian 3d models from GUNSITE!. I downloaded his free ones like the JPanther, but I am unable to make it work in PzC. All of the popular German, Russian, Allied, etc. icons are there for the use on PzC. Give us the Panthers, E series tanks, Tigers, MkIV"s, Russian super tanks, etc.

[HBalck]

your units are great, but I agree, trickling them into the forum to download and play with at the rate that is happening in a random order is not a lot of use in some ways. It drags everything out for modders.

Its unbelievable here, my units aren't primarily for others - they are for my own mods - Clearly. You can use them with my agreement, but not with some approve of mods - for this actions I don't work.

Why not share some of the very nice German and Russian 3d models from GUNSITE!. I downloaded his free ones like the JPanther, but I am unable to make it work in PzC. All of the popular German, Russian, Allied, etc. icons are there for the use on PzC. Give us the Panthers, E series tanks, Tigers, MkIV"s, Russian super tanks, etc.

Also I don't share any of my 3d models from me or from Oleg or Espona with you. You can pay the membership for 190,-$ from olegs gunsite or pay 99.95,-$ to download the most of my own models at 3DCadBeowser or 3D Worls club.
But in the H.Balcks packet III I will set all units for 1944/45.

H.Balck