ITC 2011 - Lisbon - 3/4 September

hazelbark · Post by **hazelbark** » Wed Sep 14, 2011 3:27 pm

nikgaukroger wrote: In a way I cannot easily explain - you'd have to play Peter Reilly to see how its done, but it includes odd deployments and manoeuvre.

Do you know if he posted an AAR anywhere?

nikgaukroger · Post by **nikgaukroger** » Wed Sep 14, 2011 3:57 pm

hazelbark wrote:
nikgaukroger wrote: In a way I cannot easily explain - you'd have to play Peter Reilly to see how its done, but it includes odd deployments and manoeuvre.
Do you know if he posted an AAR anywhere?

Nope - he doesn't do forums, etc.

lawrenceg · Post by **lawrenceg** » Wed Sep 14, 2011 5:23 pm

nikgaukroger wrote:
hazelbark wrote:
I can see the merovingians, but have trouble seeing the ABs. Its an army I would like to give a try to, but it seems more of a 900 point army. So clearly i am missing it. How would you try to win with it?

In a way I cannot easily explain - you'd have to play Peter Reilly to see how its done, but it includes odd deployments and manoeuvre.

I've heard it descibed as "Deploy on a seven foot frontage and advance".

Having tried to win with the ABs myself, albeit unsuccessfully, I can say that I always feel I'm at a disadvantage everywhere, but in practice it turns out better than I think it will. It's also true that the list allows a lot of flexibility in the balance of the various troop types, so there is a lot of scope for tailoring composition to tactics. I think it requires a lot of skill to get it to perform, but it also needs a different approach to the armies that top players tend to use (i.e. ones containing troops that can actually manoeuvre and fight). Basically you have to match-up superior quantities of troops with negative POA, instead of trying to match up better quality and + POA.

nikgaukroger · Post by **nikgaukroger** » Wed Sep 14, 2011 6:04 pm

lawrenceg wrote:
nikgaukroger wrote:
hazelbark wrote:
I can see the merovingians, but have trouble seeing the ABs. Its an army I would like to give a try to, but it seems more of a 900 point army. So clearly i am missing it. How would you try to win with it?

In a way I cannot easily explain - you'd have to play Peter Reilly to see how its done, but it includes odd deployments and manoeuvre.

I've heard it descibed as "Deploy on a seven foot frontage and advance".

Having tried to win with the ABs myself, albeit unsuccessfully, I can say that I always feel I'm at a disadvantage everywhere, but in practice it turns out better than I think it will. It's also true that the list allows a lot of flexibility in the balance of the various troop types, so there is a lot of scope for tailoring composition to tactics. I think it requires a lot of skill to get it to perform, but it also needs a different approach to the armies that top players tend to use (i.e. ones containing troops that can actually manoeuvre and fight). Basically you have to match-up superior quantities of troops with negative POA, instead of trying to match up better quality and + POA.

It is certainly an army that has to use its weaknesses to its advantage