***[MOD] RUSSIA AT WAR:1941

[McGuba]

I made a new unique icon for the Brest fortress. What do you think?

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[Intenso82]

I made a new unique icon for the Brest fortress. What do you think?

Its cool!
Looks like a historical miniature.

[guille1434]

Excellent!!

[uzbek2012]

I made a new unique icon for the Brest fortress. What do you think?

Отлично , данная крепость вполне заслужила быть в mods )

Брестская крепость. Неизвестная оборона 1939 года

http://brestcity.com/blog/brestskaya-kr ... -1939-goda

Well , this fortress is quite deserved to be mods )

The Brest fortress. Unknown defense 1939

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_ ... 0%BD%D1%8B+




«Пограничный дозор. Через несколько часов начнется война». Снимок был сделан в июне 1941 года. Великая Отечественная война 1941–1945 гг.
"The border patrol. After a few hours the war will start". The picture was taken in June 1941. The great Patriotic war of 1941-1945.
Пограничники будут ?


The guards will be ?





Уникальный рукопашный бой начала Великой войны.500 пограничников и 150 пограничных собак против полка фашистов.
The unique melee combat of the great war. 500 border guards and 150 dogs of the regiment against the Nazis.
https://mediaspy.ru/post.php?id=7607282
http://www.hobby-games.com.ua/shop/en/p ... niki-6144/


Немецкие солдаты в форме РККА – вероятно, одно из подразделений полка «Бранденбург 800» перед операцией.
German soldiers in the red army – probably one of the units of the regiment "Brandenburg 800" before surgery.
https://cont.ws/@beria/150281

[McGuba]

Another gift to the Motherland:

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I have made a few more new or modified units which can be used by RAW. Soon I will finsh them and send them over.

[Intenso82]

The guards will be ?

No.

German soldiers in the red army – probably one of the units of the regiment "Brandenburg 800" before surgery.

This photo has already been added to the mod
This is practically the only one photo of Brandenburg, on the eastern front.

[Intenso82]

Another gift to the Motherland:

Oh yes, thank you!)

I have made a few more new or modified units which can be used by RAW. Soon I will finsh them and send them over.

And what are these icons?

[uzbek2012]

The guards will be ?

No.

German soldiers in the red army – probably one of the units of the regiment "Brandenburg 800" before surgery.

This photo has already been added to the mod
This is practically the only photo of Brandenburg, on the eastern front.

Ну и прекрасно раз они уже есть )


http://www.krassever.ru/articles/society/history/47715/
http://newru.org/diversant-2-russkoyazy ... pecialist/

Жаль , что не будет пограничников (

Good times they already have ) Pity that there will be guards (

http://2w.su/memory/1646/2



Скажи автор а будут ли в моде партизаны ?

Tell the author and will mod the guerrillas ?

http://drittereich.info/modules.php?fil ... =15&t=2455

[Intenso82]

Tell the author and will mod the guerrillas ?

Sure! But I will add them at the later stages.

[uzbek2012]

Tell the author and will mod the guerrillas ?

Sure! But I will add them at the later stages.

http://iamruss.ru/guerrilla-commanders-of-gpw/
Ну и правильно к августу сентябрю они уже появились )))

А будут ли в вашем моде различные коллаборационисты и лже партизаны ?
http://ukraina.mirtesen.ru/blog/4366597 ... partizanyi.

Well, right from August to September, they are already there ))) And whether your fashion various collaborators and pseudo guerrillas ?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hiwi_(volunteer)

[McGuba]

And what are these icons?

Mostly fine tuning of some existing ones, artillery and stuff. I also want to have more variation with arty units in my mod. But more importantly, I found another useful source for German weapons production:

http://www.lexikon-der-wehrmacht.de/inh ... isHeer.htm

Unfortunately, it is in German, but the numbers speak for themselves anyway. And it made me to revise some availability dates in my mod. For example, even though the 75 mm Pak 40 towed AT gun became available in early 1942, it was not until early 1943 that full scale production was initiated. For most of 1942 production was only 100-200 units per month and the first 1,000 guns were not produced until September 1942. And full scale production (500-1,000 guns per month) was only started in December 1942. (In my mod each towed AT unit represents 1,000 actual guns so I modified the availability date of this AT gun to September.) It also explains why the Axis armies had a great difficulty in defending against the T-34 and KV tanks during the Soviet winter offensives of 1942/43. There was simply not enough effective AT guns for a several thousand kilometers long frontline. As soon as enough effective AT guns became available from early 1943, the Axis was able to regain the initiative for one last time and start the Kursk offensive. (And at the same time Soviet tank strength was reduced from 10,000 to 5,000 from early to late 1943.) With other words, the increase of the number of Pak 40 AT guns (and German AFVs equipped with the same gun) was nicely mirrored by the reduce of Soviet armour during 1943:

http://www.lexikon-der-wehrmacht.de/Waf ... anonen.htm
http://chris-intel-corner.blogspot.co.u ... front.html

But during and after Kursk more and more even better armoured Soviet heavy tanks and armoured vehicles started to appear in numbers (SU-152, KV-1S, and later ISU and IS types) against which the Pak 40 was not so effective. Result: the Axis lost the initiative again, and this time for good.

[Intenso82]

Well, right from August to September, they are already there ))) And whether your fashion various collaborators

Hivi is already included in the German units.

and pseudo guerrillas ?

I'll think about it

But more importantly, I found another useful source for German weapons production:

It's good. But in German it's not very good
That's why I love data by months!
I also changed many of the availability dates for units in my mod.
Accessibility does not begin when only a few pieces of equipment have been produced.
And when the deliveries exceeded 100-200pcs and became permanent. I can add one unit.
And this can easily shift the terms of availability to half a year.

I also want to have more variation with arty units in my mod.

I would also like to diversify and German artillery too, especially long-range.
What do you think about german 10cm sK18 and maybe 15cm K18?

[McGuba]

We are thinking very similarily, I have already made a modified icon for the 10 cm sK 18, was quite easy as it used the same carriage as the 15 cm sFH 18, just changed the barrel to a longer and narrower one:

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It might not be the final version, though. I might add some finishing touches. This gun was the third most numerous German artillery piece in 1941 (without counting the light infantry guns) behind the 10.5 cm leFH 18 and the 15 cm sFH 18 with some 700 piece with the troops at the start of Barbarossa. Thus it is a shame that it was left out of the PzC e-file, when other, much less numerous guns were included.

And I also reduced the barrel length of the 15 cm sFH 18 a bit to help distinguishing between these two similar looking guns. I think that other gun is not correctly represented as it should not have such a long barrel IMO. I think the new version is more precise and better match actual photos.

As for the 15 cm K 18 - I do not plan to add it as it was produced in rather limited numbers (~ 100) which is bellow the scale of the BE mod. But the above 10 cm sK 18 should be there for sure as that was the only German gun which could match the range of the much more numerous Soviet 122 and 152 mm guns until the arrival of the 17 cm K 18. Soviet artillery had a clear advantage in most of WW2.

[Intenso82]

We are thinking very similarily, I have already made a modified icon for the 10 cm sK 18, was quite easy as it used the same carriage as the 15 cm sFH 18, just changed the barrel to a longer and narrower one:

Looks good.
What range will you give her in your mod?

Maybe you can also look at the modification of 10.5cm. They looked a little differently.


And maybe also look at the mountain guns.



It would be nice to find a complete table of all the arty in one place for all country.
Including data on armor penetration and the weight of the fragmentation projectile.

But the above 10 cm sK 18 should be there for sure as that was the only German gun which could match the range of the much more numerous Soviet 122 and 152 mm guns until the arrival of the 17 cm K 18.

Yes it can be compared with 122mm A19.

[uzbek2012]

Скажи автор будут ли в твоем моде принимать участие кроме войск вермахта их союзники ( веннгры , румыны , итальянцы и тд. ) !?
Greece 1941

Tell the author if your mods to participate in addition to the troops of the Wehrmacht and their allies ( bengry , Romanians , Italians and so on. ) !?
http://photochronograph.ru/2014/07/08/i ... -gody-vov/

[Yrfin]

This gun was the third most numerous German artillery piece in 1941 (without counting the light infantry guns) behind the 10.5 cm leFH 18 and the 15 cm sFH 18 with some 700 piece with the troops at the start of Barbarossa. Thus it is a shame that it was left out of the PzC e-file, when other, much less numerous guns were included.

At begin Barbarossa was 29 Art.Abt 10.5 sK18 (3 batt on 4 pcs) and 12 Art.Abt (1 batt on 4 pcs). 2, 3, 4, 7, 14 Pz.Div (1 batt on 4 pcs) and 16, 60, 14, 18, 20 Inf.Div (m) - 1 Art.batt (4 pcs).
So 396 pcs at all (without reserve).
At 1943 every Pz.Div have Art.Batt 10.5 sK18.

Armour penetration at 1500 m -138 mm (HA 21), range 19000 (R4), RoF like 15 sFH.

[Intenso82]

Tell the author if your mods to participate in addition to the troops of the Wehrmacht and their allies ( bengry , Romanians , Italians and so on. ) !?

Actually, they already exist in the demo version RAW.

At begin Barbarossa was 29 Art.Abt 10.5 sK18 (3 batt on 4 pcs) and 12 Art.Abt (1 batt on 4 pcs). 2, 3, 4, 7, 14 Pz.Div (1 batt on 4 pcs) and 16, 60, 14, 18, 20 Inf.Div (m) - 1 Art.batt (4 pcs).
So 396 pcs at all (without reserve).
At 1943 every Pz.Div have Art.Batt 10.5 sK18.

Armour penetration at 1500 m -138 mm (HA 21), range 19000 (R4), RoF like 15 sFH.

Thanks for the count.
And from which source?

[Intenso82]

The world more than it seems.

I have expanded the map, now there is Baku city in the Caucasus and Bulgaria.
Maps are now 192x185 = 35 thousand hexes. Although it's still less than 77 thousand from the Chris10 map.

It is interesting whether a game will crash.
If not, maybe in the next scenario, make a map of the all world on a scale of 1 hex = 15 km ))
And think about WWIII.

[Yrfin]

And from which source?

http://militarylib.com/magazines/tornad ... ast-1.html

[uzbek2012]

Tell the author if your mods to participate in addition to the troops of the Wehrmacht and their allies ( bengry , Romanians , Italians and so on. ) !?

Actually, they already exist in the demo version RAW.

В ваше демо я немного поиграл ) теперь берегу себя для новых впечатлений )

In your demo I played ) is now saving myself for new experiences )