AAR – PanzerGeneral vs Supermax - war is over

[gerones]

In Canada the Royal navy sinks two German BBs. My CV attack one of the tac bombers. I move in my transport with escorts. With some luck I can manage to sink the German CV next turn and move in my troop transport in an attempt to cut off the Wehrmacht which is near Ottawa.
The British army attacks the German infantry korps near Ottawa which receives some damage.
Britain buys two infantry corps.

Your infantry corps trying to land surely will be spotted by supermax so he will send the armour unit or one of his two mech unit to the south to avoid your disembark. But this way he will be forced to weaken his pressure in Otawa. You have now naval superiority and you can make shore bombardments to the axis units in the coast. Try to go on attacking his TACS with your fighter to also weaken his air support power. If you buy more and more infantry corps he wont be able to take Otawa, since he hasn´t enough room to maneuver. And finally if you sell labs, you could buy a mech unit or even an armour unit.

[PanzerGeneral]

13. May 1941, The Kriegsmarine is defeated, Ottawa defends itself
Summer has arrived, when will Barbarossa start?


Stalin shoots some scientists in order to get some results.


The 8th army performs some desperate attacks and opens up the supply lines. Will the supply lines remain open?


In Canada my brave Royal navy sinks the German CV. The Kriegsmarine has been defeated for now. The path is open for my troop transport I rush it further into the bay, but it stumbles upon a uboat and is bounced back to its starting position. My DD sinks the uboat. The path should be open next turn.
The British army attacks and destroys the German infantry korps close to Ottawa. The two new infantry corps are deployed near Ottawa.


USA and Russia starts to mobilize. The US invests in a fighter, tac bomber and an infantry corps. I will hold back as the US is on the limit of 75% manpower and I want the best quality I can get for my troops. Russia invests in three fighters, 2 average commanders (50-60 PPs each), and loads of infantry.
Britain sells its labs and buys a fighter. I feel that I have just enough infantry and another fighter is preferred in order to stop the air attacks against them.

[gerones]

How much entrenchment level has the british infantry corps in Otawa? If this unit has the maximun level of entrenchment of 8 it would be very difficult for supermax to take Otawa. Now that you have destroyed a german infantry corps you could advance your garrison corps behind the 5 steps german mech unit to the south in an attempt to participate in the operation to cut the supply lines that you wanna make with your transporting british infantry corps.

[trulster]

Building a fighter, brave all-or-nothing approach! Though I would much have preferred an armour, if it makes to the map Ottawa will hold. Hopefully Canada survive the 3 turns needed even so. Meanwhile use RN to inflict as much pain on the Luftwaffe as possible, may buy some time. Gotta take back that forest hex next to Ottawa as well, and the idea to outflank with the garrison is also good, if nothing else forces the Axis to pull back frontline forces to attack it.

[jjdenver]

I'm no expert but I think that purchasing infantry for U.S. at least could be put off until closer to entry. I think that if you pay for a unit it gets the current tech level. However you may hit a tech advance in the next 6 months w/ the U.S. and the unit would come on map w/ that tech advance if you wait longer. The same for the planes you bought - you could safely wait 4 months I guess to pay for them?

I could be wrong but that's my understanding of how the game works.

[trulster]

. Try to go on attacking his TACS with your fighter to also weaken his air support power..

A must, with some luck and the RN, you could even come close to destroying one of the Stukas, even if he only has to pull it back for repairs you bought yourself 2-3 turns and some more oil usage for him.

[PanzerGeneral]

2. June 1941, German attack force near Ottawa is surrounded
The weather.


Again the 8th army performs some desperate attacks and opens up the supply lines. An Italian BB is spotted in the rear. Transports are spotted in Libyan ports. Is Supermax planning another landing behind enemy lines? I think the answer is yes. I will try to pull back the remnants of my army in desert.


The garrison in Ottawa is ready to face any German attack.


The Royal navy harasses the Luftwaffe and some German troop transports. More transports are observed along the Canadian coast. I assume this is the invasion for the US.
Supermax has damaged a number of infantry units which I pull back for repairs. I have one problem if he surrounds Ottawa I will not be able to deploy my new fighter. Two garrisons close in on the Wehrmacht forces. I have a lone garrison further south. I race southwards, and wow the Wehrmacht forces near Ottawa have cut their supply lines. How long can it hold out, before German infantry reinforcements come to the rescue? I move in my troop transport so that it can land next turn. I spot one mistake. I should have had a BB next to the transport so that his uboat cannot attack it. Arrghhh!

[trulster]

Supermax has damaged a number of infantry units which I pull back for repairs. I have one problem if he surrounds Ottawa I will not be able to deploy my new fighter. Two garrisons close in on the Wehrmacht forces. I have a lone garrison further south. I race southwards, and wow the Wehrmacht forces near Ottawa have cut their supply lines.

Nicely done the cutting of supply! With three Axis hexes on Ottawa the Brits would be done for if not for that. But, why not repair those infantry in place instead of pulling back? By the time they are repaired and can return, it might all be over! Good luck with Churchill's last stand in any case

[gerones]

Supermax has damaged a number of infantry units which I pull back for repairs. I have one problem if he surrounds Ottawa I will not be able to deploy my new fighter. Two garrisons close in on the Wehrmacht forces. I have a lone garrison further south. I race southwards, and wow the Wehrmacht forces near Ottawa have cut their supply lines. How long can it hold out, before German infantry reinforcements come to the rescue? I move in my troop transport so that it can land next turn. I spot one mistake. I should have had a BB next to the transport so that his uboat cannot attack it. Arrghhh!

Now that you have outsupplied the attacking axis units near Ottawa, they will be outsupplied from the very next turn, so the unsupplied penalty will be applied to those units the next turn. Then, supermax can do 2 things:

• 1. To attack Otawa next turn with those 2 mechs and 1 armour unit supported by the Stukas.
  2. To attack the british infantry corps in the north of Otawa and force this unit to retreat so he can completely surround Ottawa.

To hell with where to deploy your unit fighter by now. Your only chance to survive is to keep the axis supply lines cutted and to attack and destroy with all your forces those 3 axis units. (trulster is right about the british infantry corps retreated instead of repaired) The axis sub has only 4 steps so it´s difficult this unit can sink your transport. His TACS have more possibilities to do it.

[rkr1958]

I haven't done the calculation but ZOC's still effect sub movement and many prevent him for getting a sub to that hex.

[PanzerGeneral]

22. June 1941, Barbarossa, the end is near in Canada
The weather.


The US gains a tech.


Another Italian corps is destroyed in North Africa. The 8th army will manage to pull back its remnants. I spot an Italian troop transport near Jerusalem. I rail a garrison and move the RAF towards the expected landing area.


In Canada the situation is catastrophic. The end is near, sob. Supermax has managed to re-establish a line of supply to his panzers. They have continued to push and the result is Ottawa which is cut of from the rest of the British army. The result being that most of my army has supply level 1! How the fortunes of war changes so rapidly The Brits counter attack with everything. The result is a uboat which is sunk and some damage to the panzer grenadier north of Ottawa, but I can’t dislodge it in order to re-establish my supply line.


I spot several infantry units along the US border. USA buys a tank and fighter for the upcoming battle.


Supermax has launched Barbarossa. This came as expected, but I was unsure where his blow would come. The answer is everywhere. Once again he manages to surprise me!


The Russians buy a tank tech and spend the rest on infantry. I need lots of brave cannon fodder units for the battles this autumn and winter.

In the northern sector I close in on the Finns. The Russian BB shells a Finnish infantry corps. A commander is placed in Leningrad and units start to form a defensive line south of the city.


On the central sector, the Wehrmacht has managed a classic breakthrough and surrounded some garrisons which manage to re-establish their supply line. Vilna, Brest-Litowsk and Lvov are captured. The forward armies pull back towards the Dnieper.


On the southern all frontier troops are either surrounded or destroyed. The biggest surprise comes in the Crimea. Supermax has managed to capture Sevastopol and the Russian BB is scuttled. This is a very big surprise. I have never seen this stunt be pulled before in my (few) PBEM games. A very impressive move! The Russian army pulls back towards the Dnieper. I rail in an army to the Crimea in order to try to slow him down, and spend some energy here. There are loads of landing craft in the area. I suspect that they might perhaps be shipped to the Caucasus. The port of Batumi will receive reinforcements. The Red Air force arrives and will try to take some pot shots at the axis forces.


I start to move some of the units in the Caucasus towards Iraq and Persia. When Britain falls, I need something to protect the oil fields.


My initial assessment is that Supermax has been busy building land units. I spot only three Luftwaffe units (1 fighter and 2 tac bombers) along with the usual rabble of axis allied air units. The larger part of his forces is located south of the marshes. I suspect that the southern wing will be his focus area, and that the oil fields in the Caucasus are his goal. I guess that the axis oil levels are approximately 400-500, which should account for an aggressive 1941 Russian campaign. My goal for the Russians before winter is to pull back slowly and build up the Red army. When winter arrives I will do like in my game against Ike99, attack with everything I got. The goal is to bleed the axis of manpower and oil.

[gerones]

The situation in Ottawa is critical but not lost yet. Go on making shore bombardments to all the axis units in the coast so they have losses in strength and effectiveness. If they move north for trying to take Ottawa, then try again to cut their supplies. This way, try to stand up the 5-6 remanent turns till the USA enters at war. In Russia, it´s better to lose territories and cities but to gain time to build a large Red Army the easter you can. If you thy to defend the river lines you could be outflanked in the south by the large axis land forces.

[PanzerGeneral]

12. July 1941, Wehrmacht advance into Russia, Ottawa under attack
The weather.


The US scientists work overtime.


Yet another Italian corps is destroyed in North Africa. Tobruk is surrounded but my army is too weak to attack the garrison in the city. The RAF and other garrison block the landing areas for the Italian troop transports. I suspect that Supermax will wait until Britain surrenders before landing them.


The Ottawa garrison was attacked and nearly destroyed with only 3 steps left. I repair the unit, but how long will it hold out?


The rest of the Royal navy, RAF and the British army attacks with its remaining strength. I manage to force the Italian corps to retreat.


In Russia the Wehrmacht continues its advance on all sectors.
In the north.


In the center.


In the south.


The Russians are advancing slowly towards Iraq.

[PanzerGeneral]

1. August 1941, Britain surrenders
The weather.


Again the US scientists work overtime.


Sob, the British surrender. Congratulations to Supermax for a job well done! He utterly defeated the British. I dare anyone to admit that they have had the British surrender as I have. Ohh, the shame, and for the whole world to see my “accomplishment”


The US invests in another motorized unit.


In North Africa units from Persia are railed to Egypt in order to halt the Italian landings. Troops from Iraq will follow. The Italian navy has vanished. I assume that they will travel towards the US now that the straits of Gibraltar are open to the axis.


The Russians are advancing towards the Middle East. I have sent my tac bomber and strategic bomber to this theater. With no opposition this tiny air force should inflict some damage on the Italians.


The Red Army continues to advance into Finland with weak forces. How far can they reach? The navy supports the surrounded troops in the Kurland pocket. A defensive line has been completed.


In the center the Red Army is behind the Dnieper. The Red Air Force is redeployed south as this seems to be the area where the Luftwaffe is concentrated.


More troops are assembled in the south. It seems that this is the Wehrmacht schwerpunkt.


I had some trouble completing this turn. As I wrote to Supermax:
Just a note/warning Max. This weekend I had trouble completing my turn. What happened was that when I pressed the end turn button the game would just hang. I think I have replayed my turn 8-10 times Luckily there was no combat necessary this turn just unit movement. After replaying my turn all these times I think I have narrowed it down to the units I railed from Iraq/Persia. Originally I wanted to rail more but then the game would just hang when I completed my turn. This is very weird. I am wondering if there is a bug since they were part of Britain (and now Britain has surrendered) and the allied rail capacity. When I railed them I spent Russian PPs on the rail movement, but spent US rail capacity! If US rail capacity exceeded -4 things went wrong!

I will investigate some more to see if I can conclude anything. I got quite worried that the game was broken and could not be completed. I bet nobody would have believed if I had reported the game file broken and that the game had to be cancelled/stopped

[pk867]

Hi

Is the US in the war or are they still neutral?
I think that is correct you will spend Russian PP's points on Railing over the limit. Since Britain is a ally of US they share the rail points in the game. Since the US is still neutral the rail capacity is zero I think.

pk867

[PanzerGeneral]

Hi

Is the US in the war or are they still neutral?
I think that is correct you will spend Russian PP's points on Railing over the limit. Since Britain is a ally of US they share the rail points in the game. Since the US is still neutral the rail capacity is zero I think.

pk867

The US is still neutral, and has zero rail capacity.

[PanzerGeneral]

21. August 1941, Russia continues the war alone
The weather.


US and Russian scientists produce some results.


In the Middle East the Red Air Force has arrived. Where have all the Italian transports gone? I see one which will land on Cyprus and another one outside Jerusalem, but there were more. I am sure that they will show up somewhere


In Finland Supermax has responded to the limited Russian offensive. My garrisons contain the attacking Finnish corps. I pull back my garrison which was deep into the Finnish forests.
The defensive line around Leningrad and further south are gaining readiness.


In the central sector the Red Army performs its first counter attack of the war. With the aid of the Red Air Force an Italian infantry korps perish as it had crossed the Dnieper. I assume that the panzer korps will follow and expand the bridgehead.


The Red Air Force attacks the Luftwaffe in the southern sector. There are no Luftwaffe fighters so the Red Air Force inflicts some damage. The Red army attacks a Romanian corps in an attempt to divert the attacking direction of the panzer korps which are travelling full throttle towards Rostov.

[trulster]

Seems like you need an early Russian winter! I think to give you at a minimal chance in this game, you need to convince your opponent to upgrade to the newest GS version, so that the US gets the convoys earlier bound for the UK. At the very least when the US is in the war you should upgrade, would make matters a lot more interesting:)

[PanzerGeneral]

Seems like you need an early Russian winter! I think to give you at a minimal chance in this game, you need to convince your opponent to upgrade to the newest GS version, so that the US gets the convoys earlier bound for the UK. At the very least when the US is in the war you should upgrade, would make matters a lot more interesting:)

No, we'll stick to this version even if it means a big disadvantage for the US.

[PanzerGeneral]

10. September 1941, Russia stays behind the Dnieper
The weather.


The US has loads of research progress.


In the Middle East the Italian troop transports have returned with a DD and a Wehrmacht troop transport. It seems that Supermax is going to land here after all. The Red Air Force attacks the transport outside Jerusalem and inflicts insignificant casualties on it.


In Finland the front line has stabilized. I want to keep pressure on the Finns, I exploit the empty hexes north of Leningrad and push forward with a garrison and an army. South of Leningrad Supermax seems content to remain in the Baltic countries.


In the central sector a Wehrmacht infantry korps has crossed the Dnieper. The Red Army attacks again and destroys it. So far I can manage to defend this precious river line.


On the southern sector Supermax has managed a breakthrough. In the south he has captured Dnepropetrovsk and surrounded two armies. In the north he has managed cross the Dnieper and surrounds another two armies. Perhaps the wisest thing would be to pull back. But I’ll be dammed if Supermax is going to get across the Dnieper without a fight! I attack and kill of the Italian armoured corps and manage to re-establish supply with the surrounded armies. I almost manage to kill the Italian infantry corps. Had it perished I could have surrounded his panzer korps, but alas that did not happen.

The Red Air Force inflicts some damage on the axis air force north of the Crimea.