AAR – Ronnie vs. Dan (GSv2.01.32) (The War is Over).

Peter Stauffenberg · Post by **Peter Stauffenberg** » Sun Nov 20, 2011 10:20 pm

I think holding Moscow at any cost might be a mistake, especially if you lose mech or armor units trying to hold Moscow. Let the Russians bleed themselves killing corps to squeeze you back across the Moscow river. Moscow can easily be recaptured in the Spring of 1942 if you manage to hold the Moscow river line.

You probably need the armor and mech units in the south to crush many Russian units in clear terrain in 1942. Having them on defense in forest is not what these units are best at. Getting armor to the area with Russian armor is probably good because if these can be destroyed in the Spring / Summer of 1942 then the 1942 Russian winter offensive will be less devastating.

Still, the Russians should fight for every hex in the Moscow area, but the only units the Germans should lose are corps units and not mech / armor.

Crazygunner1 · Post by **Crazygunner1** » Sun Nov 20, 2011 10:43 pm

It seems your forces in the mid sector is waisted there. Rail em north and south to strenghten the line so he won´t break through. If he advances into the void of mid sector, let him. He will get caught on open field and without acomplishing anything during winter.

Cybvep · Post by **Cybvep** » Mon Nov 21, 2011 4:21 pm

Where is the Royal Navy?

rkr1958 · Post by **rkr1958** » Tue Nov 22, 2011 10:46 am

Turn 46. February 17, 1942 Axis.

Cybvep wrote:Where is the Royal Navy?

I don't have a clue. Hopefully I can find something out when I rotate the two newly upgraded sub flotillas with the two in the north. I really need to see if he's going to try a '42 invasion of France.

gerones · Post by **gerones** » Tue Nov 22, 2011 2:44 pm

If you rail enough mech and armour units from Moscow sector (replacing them by inf corps) and redeploy them in the south you have fair chances to launch a successful Case Blue operation. The russian Tank armies (siberian?) in the south seems to be a feint to dissuade you of attacking (trying to make you think he is strong there) in the south since the russian forces in the south must be much more weaker than in Leningrad and Moscow sectors.

Crazygunner1 · Post by **Crazygunner1** » Tue Nov 22, 2011 3:17 pm

leridano wrote:If you rail enough mech and armour units from Moscow sector (replacing them by inf corps) and redeploy them in the south you have fair chances to launch a successful Case Blue operation. The russian Tank armies (siberian?) in the south seems to be a feint to dissuade you of attacking (trying to make you think he is strong there) in the south since the russian forces in the south must be much more weaker than in Leningrad and Moscow sectors.

It doesn´t look like he has got anough support for those tanks in the south, without it they won´t accomplish much. At best the break through and cause some havoc in one line defense. To be honest i can´t see what he aims to accomplish with this small attack???

Are you in need of oil?

Crazyg

rkr1958 · Post by **rkr1958** » Tue Nov 22, 2011 9:34 pm

Crazygunner1 wrote:
leridano wrote:If you rail enough mech and armour units from Moscow sector (replacing them by inf corps) and redeploy them in the south you have fair chances to launch a successful Case Blue operation. The russian Tank armies (siberian?) in the south seems to be a feint to dissuade you of attacking (trying to make you think he is strong there) in the south since the russian forces in the south must be much more weaker than in Leningrad and Moscow sectors.

It doesn´t look like he has got anough support for those tanks in the south, without it they won´t accomplish much. At best the break through and cause some havoc in one line defense. To be honest i can´t see what he aims to accomplish with this small attack???

Are you in need of oil?

Crazyg

I ended last turn with 416 oil, so oil is not a problem. The unsupported tank armies in the south do seem strange to me. Given the number of Mechs and the air strength in the north and around Moscow I agree that this move is probably a feint or at worst a probe. Still, unless a much stronger force is reveled there in the next turn or two I would like to rail a couple of tank corps to destroy them if the keeping pushing. Though I'd be surprise if he'd waste 2 tank armies on a feint.

rkr1958 · Post by **rkr1958** » Wed Nov 23, 2011 2:04 am

Turn 47. March 9, 1942 Axis.

rkr1958 · Post by **rkr1958** » Wed Nov 23, 2011 2:43 am

Turn 49. April 18, 1942 Axis.

Crazygunner1 · Post by **Crazygunner1** » Wed Nov 23, 2011 2:50 am

Looks like Russians will have a tought time surviving in 42....You have done a good job minimizing the casualties during winter.

I guess your targets for summer is to destroy as much Russian units as possible, but where will you strike?

rkr1958 · Post by **rkr1958** » Wed Nov 23, 2011 4:38 am

Crazygunner1 wrote:Looks like Russians will have a tought time surviving in 42....You have done a good job minimizing the casualties during winter.

I guess your targets for summer is to destroy as much Russian units as possible, but where will you strike?

My plan for now is to push hard between Kalinin and Moscow where there's no river to worry about.

rkr1958 · Post by **rkr1958** » Thu Nov 24, 2011 3:54 am

Turn 49. April 18, 1942 Axis.

Cybvep · Post by **Cybvep** » Thu Nov 24, 2011 12:35 pm

Ouch... Your MP is low. It will hurt you in the following years. I mean, you have more than 3 in-game years ahead of you...

afk_nero · Post by **afk_nero** » Thu Nov 24, 2011 4:08 pm

I agree, I am also a little concerned about your MP - your Italians are next to useless because as they enter combat and serious repairs on them begin then your MP will drop fast. It means that from 43 onwards they will be nothing more than speedbumps.

The Germans arnt in trouble yet - but as Cybvep mentioned there is still 3 years ahead of you.

Loving the AAR - good luck.

rkr1958 · Post by **rkr1958** » Thu Nov 24, 2011 4:40 pm

Cybvep wrote:Ouch... Your MP is low. It will hurt you in the following years. I mean, you have more than 3 in-game years ahead of you...

afk_nero wrote:I agree, I am also a little concerned about your MP - your Italians are next to useless because as they enter combat and serious repairs on them begin then your MP will drop fast. It means that from 43 onwards they will be nothing more than speedbumps.

The Germans arnt in trouble yet - but as Cybvep mentioned there is still 3 years ahead of you.

Loving the AAR - good luck.

Thanks! Also, I appreciate any and all feedback.

With respect to the Italians I agree that they don't stand a chance against front line Russian or UK/US units. However; as second line units that severe a very critical function. They great at partisan hunting or going after Russian garrisons. They're also useful in filling in holes in defensive lines.

With respect to German manpower, dropping below 75% has never really bother me and I've never considered that to be an issue. It's only when it drops below 50% than, in my opinion, German infantry begin to really suffer. When it drops below 25% then things are getting really critical.

rkr1958 · Post by **rkr1958** » Thu Nov 24, 2011 4:41 pm

Turn 50. May 8, 1942 Axis.

gerones · Post by **gerones** » Thu Nov 24, 2011 5:15 pm

His extreme weakness in the south is really tempting for a Caucasus campaign taking the oildfields. Furthermore, Dan will probably rail some units from Moscow front to redeploy them in the empty south thus easing the work of your armour and mechs around Moscow where your air superiority could achieve to crush the soviets in the medium term.

Cybvep · Post by **Cybvep** » Fri Nov 25, 2011 5:31 am

I wouldn't be surprised if he tried to invade France early, as it would divert Axis forces from the Eastern Front.

rkr1958 · Post by **rkr1958** » Fri Nov 25, 2011 1:32 pm

Turn 51. May 28, 1942 Axis.

Cybvep · Post by **Cybvep** » Fri Nov 25, 2011 2:56 pm

Wow, you really pummelled the Russians here. Sure, you are taking losses, too, but if the Soviets don't have any armoured formations, then you should have an easy time in 1942.