AAR Ike99->joerock22 (Axis) vs PanzerGeneral (Allied)-End

[PanzerGeneral]

20. September 1943 – Russian counter offensive at Perm, Luftwaffe on Western front has reappeared
The US get some techs.


The allied navy continue to shell the garrison at Brest. One of my DDs runs into an uboat near Denmark. The sub is sunk without much effort. Once again I spot the Luftwaffe units. They are now located in Germany. Are they moving east?


The oil production at Ploesti is now fully disrupted along with Maikop and Grozny from my brave strategic bombers. The task force for the operation in Bulgaria and Romania are slowly being assembled.


The surrounded German forces near Kotlas attempt desperate attacks. They are still surrounded soon they will be destroyed. A Finnish korps is destroyed. I have split my armor into two groups. I am tempted to perform a pincer operation to destroy all of Ike99 forces here.


North of Batumi an axis allied korps is surrounded and destroyed (thanks to allied tac bombers).

[rkr1958]

From what I can see you look in great shape! I think the odds are very much in your favor that you'll win. I'd keep the pressure on Ike by continuing to push with the Russians on the eastern front and in the Caucasus. Again, from what I can see he looks like he's about to break there. Also, there doesn't appear to be anything between the UK/US forces in Turkey and Bulgaria and Romania. I wonder if that is where the Luftwaffe is heading? Either way, if you make a strong push there I would think he'd have to respond to defend that area and the Balkans, which would leave the Russian front and the Caucasus even weaker.

Also, if you haven't already started, I'd start building up by Overlord invasion forces for a spring 1944 invasion of France.

Given the beating that Joe gave me as the Allies in my AAR with him I'm envious of your current position. You clearly have the initiative now.

[shawkhan]

I think we are looking at a serious Axis oil shortage here.

[trulster]

Yep, that pincer looks very doable, almost worrying open the German lines. Maybe there are some panzers waiting, strange that he puts only infantry at the frontline. As the Russians keep producing more tanks for a speedy reconquest. Leaving Bulgaria all open also seems strange - the Axis player must have a huge force somewhere for who knows what purpose - maybe a crazy 43 invasion of England:p

[PanzerGeneral]

From what I can see you look in great shape! I think the odds are very much in your favor that you'll win. I'd keep the pressure on Ike by continuing to push with the Russians on the eastern front and in the Caucasus. Again, from what I can see he looks like he's about to break there. Also, there doesn't appear to be anything between the UK/US forces in Turkey and Bulgaria and Romania. I wonder if that is where the Luftwaffe is heading? Either way, if you make a strong push there I would think he'd have to respond to defend that area and the Balkans, which would leave the Russian front and the Caucasus even weaker.

Also, if you haven't already started, I'd start building up by Overlord invasion forces for a spring 1944 invasion of France.

Given the beating that Joe gave me as the Allies in my AAR with him I'm envious of your current position. You clearly have the initiative now.

Thanks for your vote of confidence
Personally I feel that the initiative have slipped into my hands during the summer of '43.
Playing the vanilla version of the game I have had some advantages. The uboat war was won fairly easy (compared to the BJR mod). As well as Ike99 being very defensive on the Eastern front. I would have sent every Wehrmacht unit available towards Perm in order to force a Russian surrender.
As to building up an Overlord task force. I feel that I spend most of my British and US PPs on equipment upgrades. If my allied army meets that Luftwaffe tac bomber fleet my forces will be in serious trouble. Thus all new fighters are being shipped to this theater.

[PanzerGeneral]

I think we are looking at a serious Axis oil shortage here.

Perhaps, but Ike99 had the oil fields near Perm and in the Caucasus for quite some time before my strategic bombers disrupted the production in the Caucasus. I would have thought that he had built up a strategic reserve. But if he moves his Luftwaffe units back and forth across Europe he will burn it all up quite quickly

[PanzerGeneral]

Yep, that pincer looks very doable, almost worrying open the German lines. Maybe there are some panzers waiting, strange that he puts only infantry at the frontline. As the Russians keep producing more tanks for a speedy reconquest. Leaving Bulgaria all open also seems strange - the Axis player must have a huge force somewhere for who knows what purpose - maybe a crazy 43 invasion of England:p

Well I hope a late Seolion is out of the question. I only have two corps in England along with a couple of garrisons.

[rkr1958]

The uboat war was won fairly easy (compared to the BJR mod). As well as Ike99 being very defensive on the Eastern front. I would have sent every Wehrmacht unit available towards Perm in order to force a Russian surrender.
As to building up an Overlord task force. I feel that I spend most of my British and US PPs on equipment upgrades. If my allied army meets that Luftwaffe tac bomber fleet my forces will be in serious trouble. Thus all new fighters are being shipped to this theater.

You definitely need air superiority, or at a minimum parity, before Overlord. If Ike is low on oil then that should make an air suppression campaign by the Allies easier. Either Ike will need to withdraw his air out of Allied air range or suffer significant costs in oil, PPs and manpower to contest it. Also, since you don't have to worry about his subs the Allied navy is free to wreak havoc on any Axis units on the coast; especially if you have the fighter cover to protect them against the Luftwaffe.

You can always build infantry quickly and cheaply for your invasion force after you've built up your airforce.

Well I hope a late Seolion is out of the question. I only have two corps in England along with a couple of garrisons.

I think that would truly be an act of desperation on Ike's part. Also, you'd have at least two turns of lead time if Ike tried a Sea Lion. The big tipoff would be the movement of corps units adjacent to Axis controlled ports. Your last turn didn't have any pictures of French ports but the turn before last showed that most either were empty or had garrisons next to them. So unless you see a hexes adjacent to Axis controlled ports fill up with corps units then you don't have anything to worry about. You can always use Allied strategic bombers for recon to "peer" into cities adjacent to ports if these ports are outside Allied spotting range.

[Clark]

Well I hope a late Seolion is out of the question. I only have two corps in England along with a couple of garrisons.

I think that would truly be an act of desperation on Ike's part. Also, you'd have at least two turns of lead time if Ike tried a Sea Lion. The big tipoff would be the movement of corps units adjacent to Axis controlled ports. Your last turn didn't have any pictures of French ports but the turn before last showed that most either were empty or had garrisons next to them. So unless you see a hexes adjacent to Axis controlled ports fill up with corps units then you don't have anything to worry about. You can always use Allied strategic bombers for recon to "peer" into cities adjacent to ports if these ports are outside Allied spotting range.

Another big problem with Seeloewe - no surface fleets for supply. I can possibly imagine Ike building some subs and sneaking them out from Wilhelmshavn to screen transports lining up on the English coast, but he doesn't have any surface ships to keep his divisions supplied in England once the transports have landed.

[rkr1958]

Well I hope a late Seolion is out of the question. I only have two corps in England along with a couple of garrisons.

I think that would truly be an act of desperation on Ike's part. Also, you'd have at least two turns of lead time if Ike tried a Sea Lion. The big tipoff would be the movement of corps units adjacent to Axis controlled ports. Your last turn didn't have any pictures of French ports but the turn before last showed that most either were empty or had garrisons next to them. So unless you see a hexes adjacent to Axis controlled ports fill up with corps units then you don't have anything to worry about. You can always use Allied strategic bombers for recon to "peer" into cities adjacent to ports if these ports are outside Allied spotting range.

Another big problem with Seeloewe - no surface fleets for supply. I can possibly imagine Ike building some subs and sneaking them out from Wilhelmshavn to screen transports lining up on the English coast, but he doesn't have any surface ships to keep his divisions supplied in England once the transports have landed.

Good point. Strategic bomber attacks against German ports will also tell you if he has any subs there. Strategic bombers are invaluable for recon.

[PanzerGeneral]

10. October 1943 – Russian counter offensive at Perm, Luftwaffe on Western front has reappeared
The allies get some of techs this turn.


A DD is sunk by the Luftwaffe north of Denmark.


More forces have been assembled for the upcoming offensive into Bulgaria and Romania.


Another axis korps is destroyed outside Perm. The Russian army get equipment upgrades. Two tank armies are redeployed on the northern sector in order for the upcoming offensive.


All quiet. The Red army receives equipment upgrades.

[PanzerGeneral]

30. October 1943 – All quiet before the storm
The allies get some techs this turn.


My fighters attack the Italian fighter and almost manage to destroy it. The garrison at Brest is pounded from the sea. My allied fleet enter port for equipment upgrades. The Luftwaffe has moved to Paris. I wonder if f Ike99 spends all his PPs or oil to move his Luftwaffe back and forth. Their effectiveness has dropped.


In Turkey the offensive is soon ready. I want to move the rest of my forces from Istanbul and onto transport craft.


A surrounded German korps near Kotlas is destroyed. All quiet at the rest of the Perm front. The Russian army receives new equipment.


All quiet at the Caucasus front. Equipment upgrades here as well.

[trulster]

In Turkey the offensive is soon ready. I want to move the rest of my forces from Istanbul and onto transport craft.
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IMO you should just go ahead w the forces on the Bulgarian border, vital to get thruogh those mountains before the Germans manage to get some defence in place. Time is the main factor for the Allies, must go fwd when possible!

Ditto for the Russians, and attack w tanks and info on the lone infantry south of the Ural front should take place ASAP.... good luck!

[supermax]

Interesting that you should use one of my strategy...

Very interesting. Seem tht it went well also!

Are you playing vanilla?

We could start a little game you and I... I could show yo another couple of strategy not posted on the web!

UP for the challenge we would alo do an AAR?

[supermax]

I see that you have launched a serious counter-offensive agisnt the Germans.

exactly what you need to do in this case, i think the gerans are seriously over-extended. ou should be able to push him really far and grb the initiative. Make sure, however, that you dnt overattack, be wary of axs counter-offensives

Goodjob about theTurkey operation!

[PanzerGeneral]

In Turkey the offensive is soon ready. I want to move the rest of my forces from Istanbul and onto transport craft.
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IMO you should just go ahead w the forces on the Bulgarian border, vital to get thruogh those mountains before the Germans manage to get some defence in place. Time is the main factor for the Allies, must go fwd when possible!

Ditto for the Russians, and attack w tanks and info on the lone infantry south of the Ural front should take place ASAP.... good luck!

I am waiting to cross the Bulgarian border until my amphibious force is ready to land into Romania. I want a strong concentrated attack along a broad front. Instead of attacking peace meal which I fear would make it easier for Ike99 to stop me. Also I am letting my forces rest a little bit so theat their effectiveness can become a little better.

[PanzerGeneral]

Interesting that you should use one of my strategy...

Very interesting. Seem tht it went well also!

Are you playing vanilla?

We could start a little game you and I... I could show yo another couple of strategy not posted on the web!

UP for the challenge we would alo do an AAR?

Thanks for the tip on the Turkish option Supermax! I had not even considered it until I saw your post. The allied conquest of Turkey was fairly easy as it is difficult for the Germans to send any reinforcements into Turkey across the Black Sea. And it has given the western allies a golden opportunity to help Russia and enter through the back door of the German Reich.

Yes this game is a vanilla game.

I would like to play a game against you, but currently I have two games going. This one against Ike99, and another against UffzExner which is a BJR mod (he is trashing my German army, sob). With two PBEM games I am stretching my mental capabilities to the limit so it will have to wait.

Also this will be my last vanilla game. After playing the BJR mod there is no turning back. I feel the BJR mod adds so much more to the game.

[supermax]

I will also be switching to BJR once i destroy Joe Rock's army in our latest game.

[PanzerGeneral]

19. November 1943 – The allied navy gets a beating
The allies get some techs this turn.


Ike99 has been a busy bee producing uboats. My BB south of London is sunk by uboat and Luftwaffe attacks. The uboat is sunk by my strategic bomber.


I lose a DD north of Denmark. Four new uboats are spotted.


I pull back my navy towards England.

More troops are being assembled in Turkey for the next allied offensive.


All quiet at the Perm front, I redeploy my armour on the southern sector. My planned pincer operation to destroy all the axis forces at the front line will start next turn.


My forces advance cautiously at the Caucasus front.

[gerones]

I think one of the things that make CEAW a little bit unrealistic is the excessive spotting range of the units specially air units for with the current spotting range you almost see everything of what your enemy is doing or is going to do. For this reason, I think you don´t have to worry with a cautious advance in the Caucausus because as it´s showed in the image posted you are "seeing" 6-8 hexes behind the front line and there´s no enemy units around. The same thing in France: with a reduced spotting range you would see 2-3 hexes from the coast line and you currently are seeing all of those Luftwaffe units 6-7 hexes from the coast. With this excessive spotting range it almost has no sense the fog of war option.