Think you are looking to much at POA:s and to little at tactics. I belive there is no DreamTeam in FoG, work with what you have got instead. Ive killed (as in picking them off until autobreak) superior drilled cataphracts using 1 BG 4 avg LH bow + 1 BG 6 avg LF slingers and some LF bows that joined ...

I do play MRR actually. And I still think you are right. Though I think MRR are limited to 8 stands of optional troops, apart from the Italian auxiliary.

The Cataphracts are Heavily Armored (or can be), so they will have a + for better armor in Melee, and I think the Off Spear will have a + for 2 ...

Only if you're just looking at the Superior ones - you can have up to 48 Hastati/Principes bases in total.

Oh, so the limits do not span quality? I mean, I am not limited to 16 bases of Hastati/Principes total...just 16 veteran ones?


Correct - it is an upgrade not a wholesale replacement so ...

Hmm, 6 rounds of melee at evens POA, the Romans superior. The Pikes would never last that long. The only hope they have is to disrupt the Romans at impact where they have the advantage.

Please see my above post. The Pikes will take 10 rounds to reach a 50% likelyhood of losing cohesion/good order ...

Cassius why do you think that the Pike are both cheaper and up in melee? To get the full depth benefit, the Pike will be more costly per base of frontage. To be evens at Impact, the Pike have to be 4 deep vs impact foot. Seleucid Prot, Superior Drilled Pike are 32 points per frontage, vs 20 for the ...

I have been considering skipping the Roman Cav in order to expand the size of the army, but MRR is limited to 16 bases of Hastati/Principes. They are limited on Triarii as well.


Only if you're just looking at the Superior ones - you can have up to 48 Hastati/Principes bases in total.

Oh, so ...

Okay, so how does one use MRR or LRR vs. a Pike Army?

Pikes will be equal in impact, and have the advantage in Melee, unless disordered. They are cheap, so they should outnumber the Legionaires, and since they are cheap, they will have enough points left for some lancers to challenge the ...

Thanks for the input guys.

Looking more closely at the army list, I see that the Seleucids are limited in the number of the Argyraspides they can take. Max of 8 bases. I missed that before.

So they can't quite field a Roman style legion.

Bear in mind there is no reason why a particular army list ...

Thanks Sadista. I think I will have fun with Romans whatever the outcome.

David, I understand what you are saying, and I don't really see that there is any inherent advantage in any particular troop type. It just seems odd that any advantage the Mid-Republican army list can manufacture can be ...

I noticed a complaint on another forum that a lot of people are choosing to build armies from the Seleucid army list. I am doing Mid-Republican Roman.

Looking at the Seleucid army list, I can see why. The Seleucids have analogs to the Mid-Republican legionaries in their Agyraspides, better cav in ...