You are in the middle ages and you are an honoured fierce foot soldier ravenflight, dressed for battle, in the middle of a battlefield. Your adrenaline has reached the top and you are watching your mounted hateful enemy who is there to destroy you, loosing his morale, starting to break, giving backs...

That's true. I understand the logic behind the rule, and it is a good rule for the game. Maybe it would be better if the rule said ;"... could contact the front edge of unbroken mounted." instead of contact mtd. in general.

Thanks for the answer Pete. Yes, I know that, I had no free from combat commander around at that moment. I also had a similar situation a few days later. An enemy BG of Superior Impact foot M.Foot swordsmen was facing a BG of armored Defensive spears of mine in the open. The distance between the two...

Pete is right. The rule says "could contact mounted ".The Knights could be contacted if the MF wheeled, so the rule applies. I'm not interested in judging the rule. I just want to know how the rule is played on tabletop. So, I think we came to a conclusion.

The whole argument was whether the M.Foot are obliged to charge the Pikes or not, because there was at least one direction of charging (by wheeling) that could make them also contact the Knights if they had chosen it.. Yes, there was a gap between Knights and Pikes. As I understand the clarification...

During a game in FoG 2.0 the other day at the club we had the following situation. In my round, I pinned with a BG of MF H.Weapon an enemy BG of Elephants. The Elephants were in my ZoC only with a small part of a few mm. of their front base. During my opponents phase a BG which was beside and friend...

Thank you all for the answers

Yes, as I wrote, the M.Foot had a number of choices. In some of them they could make a wheel and contact both the enemy pikes and the Knights. Or they could do other wheels or go straight forward and not contact the Knights or be intercepted by them. So, the rule in page 63 counts anyway and they ar...

But the M.Foot would contact the mounted ONLY by making a wheel by their own will . Straight in front of them were only the pikes, and the Knights were beside the pikes, 1MU away from them (e.g not in edge to edge contact with them) and looking at the same direction, so if the M.Foot charged straigh...

FoG 2.0;A BG of Impact Medium Foot in the open doesn't want to charge an enemy foot BG (pikemen).The pikemen BG has a BG of friendly Knights beside it. The Knights can't intercept the M.Foot if they decided to charge, so the M.Foot have to pass a test not to charge in order not to land on the enemy ...

Thank you all for the replies. This is a common situation in FoG, so its really useful to know the correct way of playing the game.

FoG 2.0.I had a BG of Cav. lancers and wanted to make a charge against two enemy BGs, one LH BG and one Cav. lancers BG. The two enemy BGs were one next to other with partially side edge to side edge contact. The LH was in my 'legal' charge range (5 MU exactly), but I could contact the Cav. BG only ...

Thank you all for the replies. Here in Athens we play the rule as Pete describes. So MF bowmen in an uneven terrain keep their support dice during impact and only the dice of the spears are reduced (we check what the effect of the terrain does on each base, for shooting, melee and support, not the B...

A clarification please about the disordered-severly disordered effect for mixed BGs. Suppose a BG of byzantine skoutatoi composed of 4 H.Foot Def.Spears and 4 M.Foot bowmen totally enters an uneven terrain. The BG is deployed in two ranks with 4 spears in front and 4 bows behind. The whole BG counts...

I found the relevant rule in FoG V1. It's in page 132 under the title VISIBILITY EFFECTS , and says ;"In some cases light foot can see out but not be seen. If they shoot, however, they become visible to the battle group shot at, who can then shoot back." This is a perfect general rule (sti...

Thanks Pete.

I play this rule as you say for years, but recently I had a disagreement with a couple of friends at the club, and the truth is I couldn't find something in the rules to prove it. Any ideas?

That's in page 140 and it is referring to L.Foot in other terrain, not gullies.That's why I post the question.

FoG 2.0 Suppose a BG of MF bowmen are in a gully. They can see out as if outside but they can't be seen. So they can shoot against other BGs (further away 1Mu), without getting shot by them, since they can't be seen. Is that correct? And the same also happens if the BG is L.Foot in a gully? (see pag...

So, Todd is right and exception in page 58 surpasses the restrictions of wheeling in page 57.(Are you all sure about that?)
Skirmishing becomes more and more ineffective.