"Ogryn/Bullgryn : yeah no, they're tough abhumans but not really like a SM. Even without armor. " in regards to this statement.. have you even read a book in the horus heresy.. a full jacked up Brogryn on some chaos.. gave a veteran sm a shot for his money.. Yes, the three first book. Or ...

2. They don't suck early game, sorry. 3. Ogryn/Bullgryn : yeah no, they're tough abhumans but not really like a SM. Even without armor. Kasrkyns/Militarum tempestus/Storm troops : They're indeed far better and should be added as a tier 6+ infantry because they got a lasgun AP3 (it would be like armo...

In fact, the problem does not come from the dreadnought, but in my opinion, from how TT infantry's armour saves and vehicle's armouring are retranscribed in the game under one unique value (the armour) This means that infantry with good armour save (like SM 3+) can't have a low armour value in the g...