Div E Vakarr (Triballi Thracians) defeats Rockmanbob123 (Romans) 46-62 A great clash where the Thracians were constantly fighting at the disadvantage but the picked warband won through with the addition of some hills. The Thracians refused to hide in the woods and steep hills and boldly attacked the...

Well two books written* plus numerous articles but no amount of historical evidence seems to matter. What matters is whether they are sufficiently Roman or not, or how often they fought Romans. So it's OK for Italian medium foot, for instance, to be superior. Massed Peltasts are not supposed to stan...

Well the rhomphia men only get to be "above average" because the heavy weapon was downgraded to ignore only 50% of armour to suit the medieval game. You only get them in the later Thracian lists and I would like to see the early Thracian lists fight more fiercely like their historical coun...

Division E Vakarr with Romans defeats Rockmanbob123 with Triballi Thracians 6-41 Another battle showing how the rules are skewed in the favour of the wascally Woemans. The Roman legionaries were basically able to ignore the terrain; there was nowhere for the Thracians to hide. The Thracians tried us...

Well that's partly because they are double armed, which further increases the cost, but they do earn their points. If you don't believe they were all fierce but some of them were, then it's no trouble to have some that are "fierce" and some that aren't. Would be interesting to try some lig...

Div E Vakarr with Triballi Thracians defeated Frederic02 with Bruttians/Lucanians 8%-60% The Italians thought they were Romans in disguise but the warbands smashed through them anyway, despite having to push the Italians off the high ground. Also helped that the Thracian spearmen had better combat f...

I didn't realise that the hillmen, irregular foot etc have all had their armour downgraded for some reason. It's OK to use the Thracian massed peltasts as filler in some army - something I did in the past - but not in the huge numbers required now. If they could bounce off like cavalry it would make...

I notice that the Thracian lists now have compulsory spammed massed peltasts but nothing has been done to make them more like peltasts or more like Thracians. This is a particularly useless troop type that is not as good as your run-of-the mill nameless hill tribesmen (with 100% swords). It doesn't ...

Division E vakarr (Elamite) defeats Jaerho (Egyptian) 51-63 A classic battle of spears vs swords. The two armies were evenly matched and it took a long time to move due to the huge size of the armies and the complete lack of cavalry. It looked like the Egyptians would win as the Elamites had weighte...

Division E

Vakarr (Egyptians 2686-1551 BC) challenges jaerho with Elamites 2500-2193BC, password havatme

Division E

Vakarr (Thracian 680 BC) challenges Bagatrix1805 with Greeks 680-461BC, password havatme

The HW Thracians had a slight improvement in quality because the HW had been nerfed to fit with the Mediaeval game, not because the later period Thracians were somehow better and should get an improvement.

It really stinks when you come up against some unnamed hill tribe and they have better troops than you. There are so many examples of superior troops in other lists that are not included in Thracian lists. For example, there's the Irish army which has similar infantry but is allowed to have superior...

Hellenistic Thracian with Antigonid allies
North European

I see that the minimum number of massed peltasts in every list where they exist has been increased, without any apparent compensatory improvement to the troop type. Or has there been some invisible upgrade to the troop type? This is one of the worst troop types in a Thracian list. It doesn't behave ...

Division C

Vakarr Bithynian 297-74 BC with Galatian 280-63 BC Allies challenges IMC's Antigonid 320-301BC + Greek 460-281BC Allies

Final battle of this tournament for vakarr, five battles won and two lost so far.

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Division C vakarr Bithynian 297-74 BC with Galatian 280-63 BC Allies defeats mcfcivo Graeco-Bactrian 250-130 + Saka 300 BC - 50 AD allies 17-42 The initial clashes saw the overwhelming numbers of Bactrian light troops destroy the Bithynian lights and cause damage to the Bithynian heavy cavalry. The ...

Division C vakarr Bithynian 297-74 + Galatian 280-63 allies defeats Rob123 Macedonian 320-261 + Greek 280-228 allies Score: 61-37 A hard fought battle that seemed to go in the Macdonians' favour much of the time. The Bithynian left flank was only covered by cavalry that was matched by a Macedonian c...

Division C
mcfcivo has now accepted the challenge I issued more that two weeks' ago but I have restarted the game due to lack of sufficient terrain.

Division C vakarr Bithynian 297-74 BC with Galatian 280-63 BC Allies defeats Ironclad Carthaginian (Hannibal in Italy) 218-217 Score: 55-64 Ironclad played skilfully and the result was in doubt right up to the end, with the score often in the Carthaginians' favour. The trouble for the Bithynians beg...